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Dwight Howard Interested In Signing With Knicks (oh ****!! Say it ain't so)
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franco12
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5/12/2016  8:20 AM
stop - not a position we need- we're fine with ROLO - Dwight doesn't bring that much of an upgrade so no reason to sign and then trade ROLO.

Focus should be 100000% on the backcourt/wing type shooter/slasher/penetrator.

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5/12/2016  8:41 AM
Rolo could be traded and His value would be pretty good.
That said, Howard is a strong big who brings a lot of intangibles to the court.
He is smart to be vocal about being open to playing in other cities.
To do so is to create a "market" demand, and that keeps the price up.
That said, Keep that bloated ego away from the knicks!!!!
What could change my mind? In the past, he would be a starphuch. I hope Phil if he values him sees him as a big piece of the puzzle.
Other than that, hell no!!
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5/12/2016  9:01 AM
Chandler wrote:
nixluva wrote:I can't stand the guy but he's still a strong big. Top 3 rebounder at 11.8. Top 2 FG% at 62%. Top 15 blocks at 1.59. Only 1.4 assists but that could be better if he buys into the Triangle. He should given the number of touches he'd get. Unlike playing with Harden this style would involve him a lot more.

It is intriguing. Would be like Rodman or Artest a malcontent but turned around

Big issue is Phil was the coach /horse-whisperer then

Whoever is coaching for us (Vogel please) would have to tell Howard to focus/dominate on D

Maybe we flip rolo for draft pick?

this... I think what people are missing in a Dwight scenario is how valuable Rolo is. Great contract, can anchor a defense and does tons of things to make the team better. Rolo will never be able to dominate a game like Howard does.

Boston is desperate for a guy like Rolo. Give me Crowder and pick 16 for Rolo, max out Dwight for 4 years.

I am not a Dwight fan at all, but this gives the Knicks nice potential, another pick to build up the roster and a young player part of the long term. The idea is simple, compete now, and build up the roster. Knicks need to be better and make the playoffs. At the end of Dwight's deal KP would be 24-25. Then its his squad and he will have some players that have been around for a couple years and have grown together. Willy, Grant, Wroten, Early... how knows how many or who pans out, but you build it now, you compete for a couple years, you get the younger guys in the playoffs and playing meaningful games and after 4 years its the next generation of Knicks.

Its a plan. Really comes down to what we can get for Rolo

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5/12/2016  9:15 AM
not sure about dealing Lopez for Howard. That's going from great chemistry guy to (allegedly) bad one. A much more talented guy, but just not sure if it's something Knicks should persue at the moment. Howard should go to Portland with that backcourt
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5/12/2016  9:37 AM
matt wrote:not sure about dealing Lopez for Howard. That's going from great chemistry guy to (allegedly) bad one. A much more talented guy, but just not sure if it's something Knicks should persue at the moment. Howard should go to Portland with that backcourt

For the record I'm not advocating Howard. Rolo is one of my two favorite Knicks

Just wondering if that's afoot

Also one has to consider the maxim sell high buy low. Rolo has real value now. Howard's value is somewhat depressed.

I can't see him happy in Portland. Too much like Houston being guard dominated. He wants more touches

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5/12/2016  9:40 AM
fishmike wrote:
Chandler wrote:
nixluva wrote:I can't stand the guy but he's still a strong big. Top 3 rebounder at 11.8. Top 2 FG% at 62%. Top 15 blocks at 1.59. Only 1.4 assists but that could be better if he buys into the Triangle. He should given the number of touches he'd get. Unlike playing with Harden this style would involve him a lot more.

It is intriguing. Would be like Rodman or Artest a malcontent but turned around

Big issue is Phil was the coach /horse-whisperer then

Whoever is coaching for us (Vogel please) would have to tell Howard to focus/dominate on D

Maybe we flip rolo for draft pick?

this... I think what people are missing in a Dwight scenario is how valuable Rolo is. Great contract, can anchor a defense and does tons of things to make the team better. Rolo will never be able to dominate a game like Howard does.

Boston is desperate for a guy like Rolo. Give me Crowder and pick 16 for Rolo, max out Dwight for 4 years.

I am not a Dwight fan at all, but this gives the Knicks nice potential, another pick to build up the roster and a young player part of the long term. The idea is simple, compete now, and build up the roster. Knicks need to be better and make the playoffs. At the end of Dwight's deal KP would be 24-25. Then its his squad and he will have some players that have been around for a couple years and have grown together. Willy, Grant, Wroten, Early... how knows how many or who pans out, but you build it now, you compete for a couple years, you get the younger guys in the playoffs and playing meaningful games and after 4 years its the next generation of Knicks.

Its a plan. Really comes down to what we can get for Rolo

I'd prefer one of their glut of defensive-minded guards over Jae

Also I would sincerely hope we don't max Howard. Needs to be team friendly or we'll be handicapping our and his hopes for success. Guy is already loaded

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5/12/2016  9:41 AM
Maybe we can get martin and Andrew to get a "I <3 RoLo" autobot going and we can all say how much we love him... maybe buy some jerseys through MSG... really do everything in our power to make sure that this doesn't happen
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5/12/2016  10:14 AM
Knicks would keep RoLo IMO. KOQ and Seraphin would be done. I know the negatives of Howard but also his positives are tangible. Putting him in the post in the Triangle is a good fit for him and the Knicks.
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5/12/2016  10:14 AM
Don't want him. Phuck that clown....

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5/12/2016  10:21 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:Don't want him. Phuck that clown....

He may be a clown but he's been to the Finals and is always in the playoffs. He would be an upgrade in talent. He would help open things up for our other players. More easy alleyoops and put backs. The only time he's a problem is when he's not involved but he will be involved here in this offense.

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5/12/2016  10:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/12/2016  10:38 AM
mreinman wrote:http://dailyknicks.com/2016/05/11/nba-rumors-dwight-howard-interested-in-signing-with-knicks/

I have zero problems with what Howard can still bring a team on the court (besides his FT shooting) but what he brings off the court with his childish ways could spread through a locker room and that's what would scare me about signing Dwight. If Phil was the one coaching the team and was around him enough to put his zen on him like he did with D.Rodman and A.Bynum then i'd feel a little better about it but i'm not sure Rambis could keep him from saying and doing the stuff that hurts team chemistry.

Signing him could actually help us in getting a legit guard on this team though because we could trade Rolo for a legit guard even though i love Rolo and Rolo brings to a team the things i'm saying Dwight doesn't bring and i'd really hate to see him go but we'd be better off with Dwight and the piece/pieces we'd get for Rolo then what we could sign in free agency at the guard position.

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5/12/2016  10:32 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:Dallas will most likely be his destination. I can see them giving him a nice sized salary to secure him. A sleeper could be the Spurs depending on the deal.

Watch out for Portland cause they're just a big man away from being a beast of a team with D.Lilliard, CJ.McCollum, A.Aminu and some other really good young pieces.

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5/12/2016  10:33 AM
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ChuckBuck wrote:Don't want him. Phuck that clown....

He may be a clown but he's been to the Finals and is always in the playoffs. He would be an upgrade in talent. He would help open things up for our other players. More easy alleyoops and put backs. The only time he's a problem is when he's not involved but he will be involved here in this offense.

I don't think you're seriously considering this cancer. Once he starts doing his Phil Jackson impersonation, you'll want him off the team faster than you can say Dolan 3 times.

Dude is carcinogenic to the touch. Run as fast as you can in the other direction and don't look back!

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5/12/2016  10:39 AM
I would take him.

I think he has a lot to prove. He was really hurt in LA and shouldn't have played, so if you discount that he has played pretty well the past couple of seasons.

Harden literally eats the clock and he doesn't get the touches or the shots. Big men rarely respond when they aren't involved in the offense.

18pts 12rbs (11.3fga - 59%)
15.8pts 10.5rbs (10.3fga 59%)
13.7pts 11.8rbss (8.5fga - 62%)

Maybe his numbers drop again but the rebounding is there. A 3 year 45MM deal is fair for him right now. He still commands attention and KP would open up the paint for him. Not going to happen, but RoLo for a guard would be a nice move for this team.

He played well for us, but it's not like the Blazers are missing him big time.

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5/12/2016  10:42 AM
I wonder if the Magic are trying to get him back and that might be part of the reason Skiles left?

I want no part of Dwight.

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5/12/2016  10:43 AM
fishmike wrote:
Chandler wrote:
nixluva wrote:I can't stand the guy but he's still a strong big. Top 3 rebounder at 11.8. Top 2 FG% at 62%. Top 15 blocks at 1.59. Only 1.4 assists but that could be better if he buys into the Triangle. He should given the number of touches he'd get. Unlike playing with Harden this style would involve him a lot more.

It is intriguing. Would be like Rodman or Artest a malcontent but turned around

Big issue is Phil was the coach /horse-whisperer then

Whoever is coaching for us (Vogel please) would have to tell Howard to focus/dominate on D

Maybe we flip rolo for draft pick?

this... I think what people are missing in a Dwight scenario is how valuable Rolo is. Great contract, can anchor a defense and does tons of things to make the team better. Rolo will never be able to dominate a game like Howard does.

Boston is desperate for a guy like Rolo. Give me Crowder and pick 16 for Rolo, max out Dwight for 4 years.

I am not a Dwight fan at all, but this gives the Knicks nice potential, another pick to build up the roster and a young player part of the long term. The idea is simple, compete now, and build up the roster. Knicks need to be better and make the playoffs. At the end of Dwight's deal KP would be 24-25. Then its his squad and he will have some players that have been around for a couple years and have grown together. Willy, Grant, Wroten, Early... how knows how many or who pans out, but you build it now, you compete for a couple years, you get the younger guys in the playoffs and playing meaningful games and after 4 years its the next generation of Knicks.

Its a plan. Really comes down to what we can get for Rolo

I love Crowder and would love to have him but i'd really like to get Avery Bradley from them.

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5/12/2016  10:43 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:Dallas will most likely be his destination. I can see them giving him a nice sized salary to secure him. A sleeper could be the Spurs depending on the deal.

Watch out for Portland cause they're just a big man away from being a beast of a team with D.Lilliard, CJ.McCollum, A.Aminu and some other really good young pieces.

what happen when they had Aldridge, batum, Rolo, AA? they need bigger guards, there 2 best players are under 6-5, both play the same position, both are avg (at best ) defenders

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5/12/2016  11:07 AM
nixluva wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Don't want him. Phuck that clown....

He may be a clown but he's been to the Finals and is always in the playoffs. He would be an upgrade in talent. He would help open things up for our other players. More easy alleyoops and put backs. The only time he's a problem is when he's not involved but he will be involved here in this offense.

So was Melo before he got here.

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5/12/2016  11:32 AM
franco12 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Don't want him. Phuck that clown....

He may be a clown but he's been to the Finals and is always in the playoffs. He would be an upgrade in talent. He would help open things up for our other players. More easy alleyoops and put backs. The only time he's a problem is when he's not involved but he will be involved here in this offense.

So was Melo before he got here.


Well isn't the point that we need to increase the talent on the team? Don't you think that it only helps to upgrade the talent as much as we can? Depending on what they signed him for there could still be enough money to add a FA guard as well. Of course that all depends on what DWILL and AA do with their opt outs.
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5/12/2016  12:15 PM
nixluva wrote:
franco12 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Don't want him. Phuck that clown....

He may be a clown but he's been to the Finals and is always in the playoffs. He would be an upgrade in talent. He would help open things up for our other players. More easy alleyoops and put backs. The only time he's a problem is when he's not involved but he will be involved here in this offense.

So was Melo before he got here.


Well isn't the point that we need to increase the talent on the team? Don't you think that it only helps to upgrade the talent as much as we can? Depending on what they signed him for there could still be enough money to add a FA guard as well. Of course that all depends on what DWILL and AA do with their opt outs.

You upgrade through the draft, not through signing over the hill cancer players with back problems.

Knicks been committing this cardinal sin on loop like it seems forever this century. We need to TANK HARD this upcoming year to get that talent to add along side KP. You don't add free agents when you got jack shyt in place. We got one pillar or building block in place, need to add a 2nd. And then some role players. Then some depth. Then you begin to think about adding some hot sauce to that equation, not before.

Dwight Howard Interested In Signing With Knicks (oh ****!! Say it ain't so)

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