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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
5/7/2016 11:26 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:smackeddog wrote:crzymdups wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Vogel to houston? funny so here is what phil is thinking ....
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
5/7/2016 11:40 PM
mreinman wrote:I think D'Antoni to Houston would be funnier.newyorker4ever wrote:smackeddog wrote:crzymdups wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
5/7/2016 11:42 PM
CrushAlot wrote:mreinman wrote:I think D'Antoni to Houston would be funnier.newyorker4ever wrote:smackeddog wrote:crzymdups wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I don't think that is funny at all. Howard would obviously have to be shipped out and that is a good thing anyway cause he is the softest player in the league. Vogel has no chance to go there. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
5/7/2016 11:43 PM
mreinman wrote:Brewer gets waived because he won't get playing time and Beverly gets traded for a second round pick.CrushAlot wrote:mreinman wrote:I think D'Antoni to Houston would be funnier.newyorker4ever wrote:smackeddog wrote:crzymdups wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
5/7/2016 11:50 PM
CrushAlot wrote:mreinman wrote:Brewer gets waived because he won't get playing time and Beverly gets traded for a second round pick.CrushAlot wrote:mreinman wrote:I think D'Antoni to Houston would be funnier.newyorker4ever wrote:smackeddog wrote:crzymdups wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: and you find that funny? so here is what phil is thinking ....
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
5/8/2016 3:27 AM
smackeddog wrote:Malcolm wrote:newyorker4ever wrote:If Phil wants Vogel i would think he could easily have him and the only other team i could see him chosing over the Knicks job would be the Houston job since they already have a good team and a owner that will spend money.Not sure I see that Houston is such a great destination. Howard and Harden are both problematic. Why would Bird want the pacers to play more like the rockets do? so here is what phil is thinking ....
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Chandler
Posts: 26916 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
5/8/2016 10:10 AM
crzymdups wrote:wargames wrote:Here is another twist the Grizzlies GM asked to be allowed to interview for the Sacremento GM job (under vlade) prior to firing Joerger..... It looks like everyone is jumping ship in Memphis. This has tear-down rebuild written all over it. I suspect Conley got wind of it This all the in season FA coments even after recruiting M Gasol I predict we'll start hearing about player availability including Zachary and Gasol for picks. (5)(7)
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Chandler
Posts: 26916 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
5/8/2016 10:32 AM
Does anyone else find it a little funny that with all of this turnover Fisher's name has not come up once I agree with Nixluva's sentiment above and also believe that most consistently successful sports organizations have had "simpatico" between front office, back office, coaching, scout etc. (5)(7)
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wh4t
Posts: 20279 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2015 Member: #6039 USA |
5/8/2016 11:23 AM
i can't see memphis getting vogel. Knicks have a better future
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martin
Posts: 80092 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
5/8/2016 11:45 AM
Chandler wrote: Agreed. Not sure why this is often times brought up with bad slant optics, as if it was suddenly invented by Phil and an oddball thing Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
5/8/2016 12:01 PM LAST EDITED: 5/8/2016 12:17 PM
martin wrote:Chandler wrote: Just read yet another article suggesting Phil hire the best coach and get out of the way! Which begs the question what's the criteria for "best coach available"? Does FIT for your team not factor into it? Why did Riley get rid of SVG? He was certainly better than Spoelstra as a young coach. The criteria shouldn’t be the triangle, or if the coach is simpatico with Phil. The Knicks should look for the best coach, hire him and leave him alone. Of course, they may all be gone by the time Jackson ends his vacation.http://www.northjersey.com/sports/basketball/new-voice-sought-but-is-phil-listening-1.1568481 |
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knickscity
Posts: 24533 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/2/2012 Member: #4241 USA |
5/8/2016 2:20 PM
nixluva wrote:martin wrote:Chandler wrote: Firstly, Riley didn't get of Stan for Spo, no idea how you tied those two together. All of the options out there presently are some pretty good ones, but if running the triangle is a true criteria, then all may decline. I don't think it is personally, but Phil has presented things to make it seem so. |
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
5/8/2016 2:27 PM LAST EDITED: 5/8/2016 2:27 PM
According to Berman and the Vertical (Woj), Joerger is headed to Sacramento and Grizzlies GM Chris Wallace may aim to join him there.
That's a huge indictment of the Grizzlies ownership, I'd say. Anyway, we'll see what happens. I hope this gives us a crack at Conley. If Phil gives us Conley and Vogel this off-season, I will admit to feeling silly about all my criticisms of him. Though if you put a gun to my head, I'd still predict Rambis is who Phil signs to be head coach. ¿ △ ?
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Chandler
Posts: 26916 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
5/8/2016 2:37 PM
crzymdups wrote:According to Berman and the Vertical (Woj), Joerger is headed to Sacramento and Grizzlies GM Chris Wallace may aim to join him there. I read an article that Joerger supposedly was quasi-secretly checking his options last season too (and this) and that was a reason he was relieved (i.e., for whatever reason he didn't want to be there); The Wallace stuff too was a big surprise. I am not a fan of Conley but still see this as opportunity because if Sacremento gets Conley, then some other Sac guards might be options for us (not a fan of Rondo either) One thing this all reminded me of was Jerry West: Grizz got really good because of him and then he left and ....; and then he went to GS and made them even better In each case, West did not transform team over night. If we use him as an example we'd be more patient with Phil (5)(7)
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
5/8/2016 3:01 PM LAST EDITED: 5/8/2016 3:06 PM
Chandler wrote:crzymdups wrote:According to Berman and the Vertical (Woj), Joerger is headed to Sacramento and Grizzlies GM Chris Wallace may aim to join him there. Yes, Jerry West also got Shaq and Kobe Bryant for the Lakers. He has a track record as a brilliant talent evaluator and front office guy. He also built the Showtime Lakers in the 80s. Phil does not have that track record yet. You can't compare Phil to Jerry West, who is one of the best talent evaluators in the history of the game and basically the main reason Phil was able to win his second five rings in LA. It should be noted that Jerry West was a mediocre coach - 140-100 or so in three seasons as Lakers coach. BECAUSE BEING A FRONT OFFICE EXECUTIVE AND COACH ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT JOBS. He became Lakers GM in 1982 or something and was one of the best executives ever. NOT A GREAT COACH. So, why is it that people think Phil, a truly GREAT coach, can also be a great executive? Riley is one of the few who was able to do it. Don Nelson, maybe, in Dallas, too. But the list is not too long of guys who have excelled in both roles. ¿ △ ?
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