Vmart wrote:

knickscity wrote:Coaching would have a huge effect on that talent rising. I really am surprised some of you aren't realizing simple things.

You want to develop talent then you need continuity of coach. Why do you guys feel Rambis won't be able to develop talent? There a lot of coaches who can develop talent. I think Rambis can get developing talent up to par.

There is absolutely no need for a new coach here. Just stick with Rambis and go forward.

Vmart wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knickscity wrote:Coaching would have a huge effect on that talent rising. I really am surprised some of you aren't realizing simple things.

You want to develop talent then you need continuity of coach. Why do you guys feel Rambis won't be able to develop talent? There a lot of coaches who can develop talent. I think Rambis can get developing talent up to par.

There is absolutely no need for a new coach here. Just stick with Rambis and go forward.

Winning games is also important to development. There are a lot of options out there that are proven to be able to do both. Rambis hasn't shown he can actually do either one.

The Knicks have gone in many direction from Larry Brown, Lenny Wilkens, to Mike D'Antonio the results have been not so good they got run out of town. Same is gonna happen to any coach that comes in here they are gonna get run out of town. Sometimes having a coach whose expectations aren't so high might be the thing that works.

knickscity wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knickscity wrote:Coaching would have a huge effect on that talent rising. I really am surprised some of you aren't realizing simple things.

You want to develop talent then you need continuity of coach. Why do you guys feel Rambis won't be able to develop talent? There a lot of coaches who can develop talent. I think Rambis can get developing talent up to par.

There is absolutely no need for a new coach here. Just stick with Rambis and go forward.

Winning games is also important to development. There are a lot of options out there that are proven to be able to do both. Rambis hasn't shown he can actually do either one.

The Knicks have gone in many direction from Larry Brown, Lenny Wilkens, to Mike D'Antonio the results have been not so good they got run out of town. Same is gonna happen to any coach that comes in here they are gonna get run out of town. Sometimes having a coach whose expectations aren't so high might be the thing that works.

I really cant get with this logic, you always go for the best option, even if it doesn't work out. rambis isn't a good coach, that's the main issue. The expectations are low anyway because the roster isn't good. the Knicks do need talent and the best way to acquire it is from within. All of these available coaches have shown they can get more out of less.

No my logic is fine if anything those that want a coach other than Rambis are illogical. The result simple won't be realized with a coaching change. If anything if Phil brings in another coach asides from Rambis it is going to create even more of a frenzy if results are not good.

If any coach that takes on this Knicks roster at this moment is simply doing it for money and that isn't good for anyone. Because the talent simply isn't here at this moment have a few decent pieces and nothing more. Rambis is the perfect stop gap coach at the moment. Until talent is increased and player development is a priority he is the perfect coach going forward.

Vmart wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Vmart wrote:

knickscity wrote:Coaching would have a huge effect on that talent rising. I really am surprised some of you aren't realizing simple things.

You want to develop talent then you need continuity of coach. Why do you guys feel Rambis won't be able to develop talent? There a lot of coaches who can develop talent. I think Rambis can get developing talent up to par.

There is absolutely no need for a new coach here. Just stick with Rambis and go forward.

Winning games is also important to development. There are a lot of options out there that are proven to be able to do both. Rambis hasn't shown he can actually do either one.

The Knicks have gone in many direction from Larry Brown, Lenny Wilkens, to Mike D'Antonio the results have been not so good they got run out of town. Same is gonna happen to any coach that comes in here they are gonna get run out of town. Sometimes having a coach whose expectations aren't so high might be the thing that works.

I really cant get with this logic, you always go for the best option, even if it doesn't work out. rambis isn't a good coach, that's the main issue. The expectations are low anyway because the roster isn't good. the Knicks do need talent and the best way to acquire it is from within. All of these available coaches have shown they can get more out of less.

No my logic is fine if anything those that want a coach other than Rambis are illogical. The result simple won't be realized with a coaching change. If anything if Phil brings in another coach asides from Rambis it is going to create even more of a frenzy if results are not good.

If any coach that takes on this Knicks roster at this moment is simply doing it for money and that isn't good for anyone. Because the talent simply isn't here at this moment have a few decent pieces and nothing more. Rambis is the perfect stop gap coach at the moment. Until talent is increased and player development is a priority he is the perfect coach going forward.

Your premise is right IF the Knicks are not going to upgrade talent this summer. I'm pretty sure the goal is to try and upgrade talent. They should be able to get better on some level. So it would make sense to try and also upgrade the head coach. Tho it's not the end of the world if Rambis is retained, I still think the team would benefit from a more inspired coach and one that has better in game skills.

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

franco12 wrote:is that a current picture of Phil? OMG is he old.

I think he's worn out. We're starting to see Mills take more of a lead in the coaching search. Blatt is a Mills guy. Mills reached out to Vogel. Phil is on vacay. Says it all.

Mills is the damned GM, not Phil. Mills is supposed to do all the hands on work. Phil is mostly the big picture guy. He doesn't have to make every call.

Lol. This is a new level. So wait did Mills make the call to draft KP? Or does he only make the calls when people are unhappy with the result? Man, Knicks coulda signed LaMarcus Aldridge I heard, but Mills made the call. Luckily Phil jumped in and called Robin Lopez. Phew!

Mills did go to Europe to check out KP, Willy and others and all along he's been part of the decision making process. You're assumptions make no sense. Mills does a LOT of the day to day work of a GM. Mills is the most likely candidate to take over when Phil leaves and he'll be well groomed to do that. You really are making a fool of yourself on this topic.

Mills also made a trip to Spain to watch Porzingis in the ACB league, and that’s when 21-year-old center Guillermo Hernangomez, whom the Knicks selected in the second round, caught his eye. The Knicks made a deal with the Sixers to take Hernangomez with the 35th pick, and the Knicks plan to have him on the team in 2016-17. Jackson never traveled to Spain to see Porzingis or Hernangomez.

http://nypost.com/2015/07/14/how-the-knicks-front-office-talked-themselves-into-porzingis/

posting a berman article? Crushalot says hello.

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

franco12 wrote:is that a current picture of Phil? OMG is he old.

I think he's worn out. We're starting to see Mills take more of a lead in the coaching search. Blatt is a Mills guy. Mills reached out to Vogel. Phil is on vacay. Says it all.

Mills is the damned GM, not Phil. Mills is supposed to do all the hands on work. Phil is mostly the big picture guy. He doesn't have to make every call.

Lol. This is a new level. So wait did Mills make the call to draft KP? Or does he only make the calls when people are unhappy with the result? Man, Knicks coulda signed LaMarcus Aldridge I heard, but Mills made the call. Luckily Phil jumped in and called Robin Lopez. Phew!

Mills did go to Europe to check out KP, Willy and others and all along he's been part of the decision making process. You're assumptions make no sense. Mills does a LOT of the day to day work of a GM. Mills is the most likely candidate to take over when Phil leaves and he'll be well groomed to do that. You really are making a fool of yourself on this topic.

Mills also made a trip to Spain to watch Porzingis in the ACB league, and that’s when 21-year-old center Guillermo Hernangomez, whom the Knicks selected in the second round, caught his eye. The Knicks made a deal with the Sixers to take Hernangomez with the 35th pick, and the Knicks plan to have him on the team in 2016-17. Jackson never traveled to Spain to see Porzingis or Hernangomez.

http://nypost.com/2015/07/14/how-the-knicks-front-office-talked-themselves-into-porzingis/

posting a berman article? Crushalot says hello.

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

franco12 wrote:is that a current picture of Phil? OMG is he old.

I think he's worn out. We're starting to see Mills take more of a lead in the coaching search. Blatt is a Mills guy. Mills reached out to Vogel. Phil is on vacay. Says it all.

Mills is the damned GM, not Phil. Mills is supposed to do all the hands on work. Phil is mostly the big picture guy. He doesn't have to make every call.

Lol. This is a new level. So wait did Mills make the call to draft KP? Or does he only make the calls when people are unhappy with the result? Man, Knicks coulda signed LaMarcus Aldridge I heard, but Mills made the call. Luckily Phil jumped in and called Robin Lopez. Phew!

Mills did go to Europe to check out KP, Willy and others and all along he's been part of the decision making process. You're assumptions make no sense. Mills does a LOT of the day to day work of a GM. Mills is the most likely candidate to take over when Phil leaves and he'll be well groomed to do that. You really are making a fool of yourself on this topic.

Mills also made a trip to Spain to watch Porzingis in the ACB league, and that’s when 21-year-old center Guillermo Hernangomez, whom the Knicks selected in the second round, caught his eye. The Knicks made a deal with the Sixers to take Hernangomez with the 35th pick, and the Knicks plan to have him on the team in 2016-17. Jackson never traveled to Spain to see Porzingis or Hernangomez.

http://nypost.com/2015/07/14/how-the-knicks-front-office-talked-themselves-into-porzingis/

posting a berman article? Crushalot says hello.

You need a Berman filter. He has some relevant info and if it is about guys that practiced, injuries etc. he generally is accurate.

article did not look like it should pass the filter ... please flag and arrest the perpetrator.

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

franco12 wrote:is that a current picture of Phil? OMG is he old.

I think he's worn out. We're starting to see Mills take more of a lead in the coaching search. Blatt is a Mills guy. Mills reached out to Vogel. Phil is on vacay. Says it all.

Mills is the damned GM, not Phil. Mills is supposed to do all the hands on work. Phil is mostly the big picture guy. He doesn't have to make every call.

Lol. This is a new level. So wait did Mills make the call to draft KP? Or does he only make the calls when people are unhappy with the result? Man, Knicks coulda signed LaMarcus Aldridge I heard, but Mills made the call. Luckily Phil jumped in and called Robin Lopez. Phew!

Mills did go to Europe to check out KP, Willy and others and all along he's been part of the decision making process. You're assumptions make no sense. Mills does a LOT of the day to day work of a GM. Mills is the most likely candidate to take over when Phil leaves and he'll be well groomed to do that. You really are making a fool of yourself on this topic.

Mills also made a trip to Spain to watch Porzingis in the ACB league, and that’s when 21-year-old center Guillermo Hernangomez, whom the Knicks selected in the second round, caught his eye. The Knicks made a deal with the Sixers to take Hernangomez with the 35th pick, and the Knicks plan to have him on the team in 2016-17. Jackson never traveled to Spain to see Porzingis or Hernangomez.

http://nypost.com/2015/07/14/how-the-knicks-front-office-talked-themselves-into-porzingis/

posting a berman article? Crushalot says hello.

You need a Berman filter. He has some relevant info and if it is about guys that practiced, injuries etc. he generally is accurate.

article did not look like it should pass the filter ... please flag and arrest the perpetrator.

Recognize fiction for what it is even if it is what you hope and pray is true and you want to be happening and you will become a better human being.

I recognize them all for what they are and I don't have any filters on them.

If you recognized that some things may be smelly even though you think they smell peachy then you will become a little smarter.

We are all here having fun watching teams that are not our knicks in the post season. Speculative reporting and hypothesizing is damn fun!! Especially when it pisses some of you off so bad. Its charming.

wargames wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

franco12 wrote:is that a current picture of Phil? OMG is he old.

I think he's worn out. We're starting to see Mills take more of a lead in the coaching search. Blatt is a Mills guy. Mills reached out to Vogel. Phil is on vacay. Says it all.

Mills is the damned GM, not Phil. Mills is supposed to do all the hands on work. Phil is mostly the big picture guy. He doesn't have to make every call.

Lol. This is a new level. So wait did Mills make the call to draft KP? Or does he only make the calls when people are unhappy with the result? Man, Knicks coulda signed LaMarcus Aldridge I heard, but Mills made the call. Luckily Phil jumped in and called Robin Lopez. Phew!

Mills did go to Europe to check out KP, Willy and others and all along he's been part of the decision making process. You're assumptions make no sense. Mills does a LOT of the day to day work of a GM. Mills is the most likely candidate to take over when Phil leaves and he'll be well groomed to do that. You really are making a fool of yourself on this topic.

Mills also made a trip to Spain to watch Porzingis in the ACB league, and that’s when 21-year-old center Guillermo Hernangomez, whom the Knicks selected in the second round, caught his eye. The Knicks made a deal with the Sixers to take Hernangomez with the 35th pick, and the Knicks plan to have him on the team in 2016-17. Jackson never traveled to Spain to see Porzingis or Hernangomez.

http://nypost.com/2015/07/14/how-the-knicks-front-office-talked-themselves-into-porzingis/

Yep, Phil created a system where they handle all the day to day decisions and he's called in either to make big decisions (based on their feedback) or explain the overall methodologies to Dolan or the media. Mills reaching out to Vogel is as a representative of the knicks FO which reflects Phil. So he's speaking on Phil's behalf in setting that up and whatnot. If Vogel wants the job he can wait a few days to have an interview with Phil and we fans can just see where that goes from there. As long as we don't pick a horrible coach (unless the goal is to tank) we fans need to be patient and wait and see.

link?