newyorker4ever wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I think if Luke wants to coach the Knicks he will be our next coach. If he decides to play closer to family or in a warmer climate or near his favorite coffee shop then he won't be here. Nothing to that.

YUP! No conspiracy theories necessary. Luke is the hottest young coaching prospect out there so why wouldn't Phil be legitimately interested?

because his puppet buddy would need to be knocked off.

This is just unnecessary nastiness. Phil actually values Rambis as a basketball man who assisted him in winning titles!!! Just cuz you don't value the guy doesn't mean Phil is wrong. Phil didn't just hand him the job so clearly he left the door open to hiring another coach. Luke is a guy he's also very familiar with as you may recall.

We'll see if Luke is willing to leave the Westcoast. I think the Knicks job is a tough one compared to what he has in GS. It's a move to the big chair working for a man he's worked for before. No job will give him the roster they have in GS, but he'd be coming to NY at a good time. We've got KP, money and all our picks after this year. Plus the Frontcourt is set so there's less to fix going forward.

And people should also not act like we can't get this team back to being a team and place that free agents would love to play for like it used to be.

when was that?

StarksEwing1 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

mreinman wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

mreinman wrote:and I also don't think that luke wants to come here and be forced to run the triangle which he may not be a fan of (other than its principles)

Why do some have to jump straight to being negative about this?? Lets let it play out and see if we end up getting Luke to come to New York.

because were are predicting and assuming being that none of us really know jack sh1t.

That makes sense but i don't think you should speak for others.

i kinda agree with mreinman. Phil needs to let the head coach have his freedom. If phil is deadset on only running his own system then he needs to coach himself.

Luke didn't create what they run in GS and it would not necessarily be a good fit for the roster in NY. I'm sure some aspects of what they do could be used since it uses Triangle principles. I doubt highly that Phil would have a problem with Luke using some of what he's Learned in GS. I'm sure Luke knows the personnel in NY is nowhere near that of GS. He'd necessarily have to make adjustments.

Just cuz Rambis was more focused on the Triangle Doesn't mean Phil is closed to anything else. Whatever you run you must be committed and thorough. Fish was too In between and it meant the base of the system was weak. That's more of what bothered Phil. The core of what you do should be solid no matter what it is so players are not confused and can execute properly. You need proper execution in the Triangle or it's a mess. Luke knows this!

CrushAlot wrote:I thought this was awesome.

Toward the end of Walton’s playing career, then-Lakers coach Jackson began inviting Walton to coaches meetings to lift his spirits.
“I was really into what they were doing, and I figured if I can’t play. I’d like to do this coaching thing,” Walton said earlier this season.

This is exactly what Phil did as a player also

There's many areas I don't know if Phil has shown he can do it, but one area I trust is opinion on is if a coach did his job well or not. Fisher failed. It's painfully obvious he was making mistakes as a head coach. Many of us mentioned it in the game thread before Fish got fired.

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

mreinman wrote:and I also don't think that luke wants to come here and be forced to run the triangle which he may not be a fan of (other than its principles)

Fisher's problem wasn't just that he didn't run full triangle. He also failed to communicate with Phil his boss on a regular basis according to Phil anyway.

As a first time head coach with no assistant coaching experience and only one yr under your belt. You are working under one of the greatest basketball coaches of all time and you fail to communicate with him? Thats kind of crazy but that was also just a rant.

Does Phil want full triangle no exceptions. Or would he be willing to have triangle and different principals if the coach displays better communications with him and the strong *team building* characteristics which he claimed he desired.

won't defend fisher because I was never a fisher fan and he was a bad signing.

I don't believe that phil is that bendable with the triangle. He wants to prove that IT is a direct cause of winning.

He's NEVER said that in fact he and his assistants have stated its not the only way to win but it's a good system. This is a bad assumption on the part of those who don't like that Phil is a proponent of the system.

I found this quote from Walton's Wiki.

The following year Walton became an assistant coach for the Golden State Warriors. Said Walton, "We are gonna run parts of the triangle offense, and I know that thing front and back." Walton joined the Warrior staff July 3, 2014.[2] The Warriors won the 2015 NBA Finals after they defeated the Cleveland Cavaliers in six games to give Walton his third NBA championship and first as a coach.

so you don't think that he wants to prove the triangle?

CrushAlot wrote:I thought this was awesome.

Toward the end of Walton’s playing career, then-Lakers coach Jackson began inviting Walton to coaches meetings to lift his spirits.
“I was really into what they were doing, and I figured if I can’t play. I’d like to do this coaching thing,” Walton said earlier this season.

Sounds alot like Phil when he was on the Knicks. They said Red Holzman did that for Jackson.

winning 41 games is a reasonable goal for next year. a playoff spot would be a bonus.

Assuming he wants to run the Triangle, where's he going to go to other than the Knicks (?)

That's what he's having to keep in mind.

Best option for him is to sit tight for another season or two and take over at Golden State.

EnySpree wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

mreinman wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I think if Luke wants to coach the Knicks he will be our next coach. If he decides to play closer to family or in a warmer climate or near his favorite coffee shop then he won't be here. Nothing to that.

YUP! No conspiracy theories necessary. Luke is the hottest young coaching prospect out there so why wouldn't Phil be legitimately interested?

because his puppet buddy would need to be knocked off.

This is just unnecessary nastiness. Phil actually values Rambis as a basketball man who assisted him in winning titles!!! Just cuz you don't value the guy doesn't mean Phil is wrong. Phil didn't just hand him the job so clearly he left the door open to hiring another coach. Luke is a guy he's also very familiar with as you may recall.

We'll see if Luke is willing to leave the Westcoast. I think the Knicks job is a tough one compared to what he has in GS. It's a move to the big chair working for a man he's worked for before. No job will give him the roster they have in GS, but he'd be coming to NY at a good time. We've got KP, money and all our picks after this year. Plus the Frontcourt is set so there's less to fix going forward.

And people should also not act like we can't get this team back to being a team and place that free agents would love to play for like it used to be.

when was that?

You must not be old enough to remember those days.

And when was that?

It's lIke a desperate knicks fan reunion up in here.

Why come to a knicks fan site and claim to be a fan if you want to engage in silly "and when was that? " arguments.

It's a drag. There was a time when the Knicks were relevant. Yes it was a long time ago. With the help of silly fans that love the drama, espn made it could to rip us daily. Now over the last 15 years nobody wants to be here because of that alone. Nothing to do with Dolan or the fans. Msg is sold out every night. Dolan will alway have money and fans will always buy tickets.

So yes the problem is silly ignorant fans that only want to argue about stupid **** that no other fan for any other team argue about. Espn doesn't bash the Lakers. They don't bash the Bucks. They don't bash philly. They only bash the Knicks. And knicks fans ate the ones loving it while the rest of the league laughs.

I hate 80% of you sons of biznatches

awwww me tooo or am I in the lucky 20%

dacash wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

mreinman wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I think if Luke wants to coach the Knicks he will be our next coach. If he decides to play closer to family or in a warmer climate or near his favorite coffee shop then he won't be here. Nothing to that.

YUP! No conspiracy theories necessary. Luke is the hottest young coaching prospect out there so why wouldn't Phil be legitimately interested?

because his puppet buddy would need to be knocked off.

This is just unnecessary nastiness. Phil actually values Rambis as a basketball man who assisted him in winning titles!!! Just cuz you don't value the guy doesn't mean Phil is wrong. Phil didn't just hand him the job so clearly he left the door open to hiring another coach. Luke is a guy he's also very familiar with as you may recall.

We'll see if Luke is willing to leave the Westcoast. I think the Knicks job is a tough one compared to what he has in GS. It's a move to the big chair working for a man he's worked for before. No job will give him the roster they have in GS, but he'd be coming to NY at a good time. We've got KP, money and all our picks after this year. Plus the Frontcourt is set so there's less to fix going forward.

And people should also not act like we can't get this team back to being a team and place that free agents would love to play for like it used to be.

when was that?

You must not be old enough to remember those days.

And when was that?

It's lIke a desperate knicks fan reunion up in here.

Why come to a knicks fan site and claim to be a fan if you want to engage in silly "and when was that? " arguments.

It's a drag. There was a time when the Knicks were relevant. Yes it was a long time ago. With the help of silly fans that love the drama, espn made it could to rip us daily. Now over the last 15 years nobody wants to be here because of that alone. Nothing to do with Dolan or the fans. Msg is sold out every night. Dolan will alway have money and fans will always buy tickets.

So yes the problem is silly ignorant fans that only want to argue about stupid **** that no other fan for any other team argue about. Espn doesn't bash the Lakers. They don't bash the Bucks. They don't bash philly. They only bash the Knicks. And knicks fans ate the ones loving it while the rest of the league laughs.

I hate 80% of you sons of biznatches

awwww me tooo or am I in the lucky 20%

Well now it's 81%! Lol

CrushAlot wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Btw is reported that Luke Walton turned down Phil.....

so what's the spin now? That phil is an ******* because not even his coaching tree wants to coach his team?

The Nets didn't sign Thibbs or Mark Jackson but Phil is the retard because he hasn't?

Ouch. Sounds like it might be revisited but I know his dad has told him to stay with the Warriors. His dad also said Luke doesn't listen to him.

It could be more about Kerr's health. If Kerr has to leave the bench that would allow Luke to take over a great team. It could be just smart to wait and see.