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4/17/2016  8:27 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
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Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

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4/17/2016  8:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/17/2016  8:41 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg
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4/17/2016  8:47 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

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Luke supposedly told Phil that he's not interested in the Knicks job per Asshola.

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4/17/2016  8:51 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him
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4/17/2016  8:57 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

Well maybe it was a no brainier for Phil or me I was pumped we drafted kp. but he caught a lot of heat for picking kp. But yes I don't think it's going to be hard to attract FA's like it was last year . We have kp and he's going to be one f the greatest.

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4/17/2016  9:02 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

Well maybe it was a no brainier for Phil or me I was pumped we drafted kp. but he caught a lot of heat for picking kp. But yes I don't think it's going to be hard to attract FA's like it was last year . We have kp and he's going to be one f the greatest.

the point is phil needs to prove himself before getting that type of praise
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4/17/2016  9:13 PM
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

Well maybe it was a no brainier for Phil or me I was pumped we drafted kp. but he caught a lot of heat for picking kp. But yes I don't think it's going to be hard to attract FA's like it was last year . We have kp and he's going to be one f the greatest.


Just hope KP doesn't turn have to deal with a similar situation like Anthony Davis.
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4/17/2016  9:18 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

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4/17/2016  9:21 PM
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.
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CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.

EXACTLY!!! I'm not the only one who remembers what the feeling was back then. Jerian did look like he would have the stronger rookie season early on. KP really put in work and it was amazing how quickly he adjusted and started hitting the boards and defending the rim at an high level. Then it really hit home how right Phil was to make that pick. Thank goodness he listened to Gaines!
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Jackson hasn't been particularly lucky (outside of KP) or, IMO, particularly smart but . . . yes, yes, yes Jackson, in the context of the Knicks, has been a miracle worker. Just by having a plan, sticking to it, and not giving away assets, he's taken us back to early MDA period, which is a 1000x improvement. As long as Dolan allows for another, oh, four, five, six years of slow but steady improvement, we'll have some assets, some draft picks, some developed players, a rooted coach . . . and with any luck a team that plays at least 50/50 ball most of the time. If the Knicks tank next year for whatever reason and, oh, the season after that, we'll see if Dolan is able to stay the course. I don't have high hopes for the next couple of years but . . . Things. Is. Better. With. Jackson.
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CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.

summer league is a guard's league and a wannabe/neverbeen league. it was clear from the workout videos that kp was certainly not nothing when 7'3" and those skills, and yet he NEVER saw the ball during summer league. however, stuffing okafor's shyt down his overrated throat with regularity was a prelude. all that can be said is that kp far exceeded expectations and grant fell short of expectations. you have demonstrated that you're not very good at assessing a player's value. try to be a bit less presumptuous and smug, and a bit more humble and you might learn something.

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dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.

summer league is a guard's league and a wannabe/neverbeen league. it was clear from the workout videos that kp was certainly not nothing when 7'3" and those skills, and yet he NEVER saw the ball during summer league. however, stuffing okafor's shyt down his overrated throat with regularity was a prelude. all that can be said is that kp far exceeded expectations and grant fell short of expectations. you have demonstrated that you're not very good at assessing a player's value. try to be a bit less presumptuous and smug, and a bit more humble and you might learn something.

1st of all FUCK YOU! I've evaluated players accurately and I have proof of that on this forum. I have no idea what you're talking about with KP! We all saw KP's raw talent but if you're gonna try to say you expected him to play as well as he did this year after watching Summer League your full of SHIT💩 We saw the talent and potential but not to be this good, this soon.

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4/17/2016  9:47 PM
nixluva wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.

summer league is a guard's league and a wannabe/neverbeen league. it was clear from the workout videos that kp was certainly not nothing when 7'3" and those skills, and yet he NEVER saw the ball during summer league. however, stuffing okafor's shyt down his overrated throat with regularity was a prelude. all that can be said is that kp far exceeded expectations and grant fell short of expectations. you have demonstrated that you're not very good at assessing a player's value. try to be a bit less presumptuous and smug, and a bit more humble and you might learn something.

1st of all FUCK YOU! I've evaluated players accurately and I have proof of that on this forum. I have no idea what you're talking about with KP! We all saw KP's raw talent but if you're gonna try to say you expected him to play as well as he did this year after watching Summer League your full of SHIT💩 We saw the talent and potential but not to be this good, this soon.

Jesus, relax there is no need for that language. KP was getting a lot of interest from the sixers and us so it was clear he was gonna be a top 4 or 5 pick
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StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.

summer league is a guard's league and a wannabe/neverbeen league. it was clear from the workout videos that kp was certainly not nothing when 7'3" and those skills, and yet he NEVER saw the ball during summer league. however, stuffing okafor's shyt down his overrated throat with regularity was a prelude. all that can be said is that kp far exceeded expectations and grant fell short of expectations. you have demonstrated that you're not very good at assessing a player's value. try to be a bit less presumptuous and smug, and a bit more humble and you might learn something.

1st of all FUCK YOU! I've evaluated players accurately and I have proof of that on this forum. I have no idea what you're talking about with KP! We all saw KP's raw talent but if you're gonna try to say you expected him to play as well as he did this year after watching Summer League your full of SHIT💩 We saw the talent and potential but not to be this good, this soon.

Jesus, relax there is no need for that language. KP was getting a lot of interest from the sixers and us so it was clear he was gonna be a top 4 or 5 pick

Don't tell me how to respond to a guy that attacks me personally. I'm not gonna sit back and take crap from him. My points about picking KP are my opinion based on very real views expressed at the time. The proof is all over the place. KAT was a no Brainer!!! There were some questions about KP.

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nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.

summer league is a guard's league and a wannabe/neverbeen league. it was clear from the workout videos that kp was certainly not nothing when 7'3" and those skills, and yet he NEVER saw the ball during summer league. however, stuffing okafor's shyt down his overrated throat with regularity was a prelude. all that can be said is that kp far exceeded expectations and grant fell short of expectations. you have demonstrated that you're not very good at assessing a player's value. try to be a bit less presumptuous and smug, and a bit more humble and you might learn something.

1st of all FUCK YOU! I've evaluated players accurately and I have proof of that on this forum. I have no idea what you're talking about with KP! We all saw KP's raw talent but if you're gonna try to say you expected him to play as well as he did this year after watching Summer League your full of SHIT💩 We saw the talent and potential but not to be this good, this soon.

Jesus, relax there is no need for that language. KP was getting a lot of interest from the sixers and us so it was clear he was gonna be a top 4 or 5 pick

Don't tell me how to respond to a guy that attacks me personally. I'm not gonna sit back and take crap from him. My points about picking KP are my opinion based on very real views expressed at the time. The proof is all over the place. KAT was a no Brainer!!! There were some questions about KP.

dont agree. There are questions about every player but KP was projected to go about where we picked him. We made the right choice but i dont think we have call phil a genius again
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4/17/2016  10:08 PM
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.

summer league is a guard's league and a wannabe/neverbeen league. it was clear from the workout videos that kp was certainly not nothing when 7'3" and those skills, and yet he NEVER saw the ball during summer league. however, stuffing okafor's shyt down his overrated throat with regularity was a prelude. all that can be said is that kp far exceeded expectations and grant fell short of expectations. you have demonstrated that you're not very good at assessing a player's value. try to be a bit less presumptuous and smug, and a bit more humble and you might learn something.

1st of all FUCK YOU! I've evaluated players accurately and I have proof of that on this forum. I have no idea what you're talking about with KP! We all saw KP's raw talent but if you're gonna try to say you expected him to play as well as he did this year after watching Summer League your full of SHIT💩 We saw the talent and potential but not to be this good, this soon.

Jesus, relax there is no need for that language. KP was getting a lot of interest from the sixers and us so it was clear he was gonna be a top 4 or 5 pick

Don't tell me how to respond to a guy that attacks me personally. I'm not gonna sit back and take crap from him. My points about picking KP are my opinion based on very real views expressed at the time. The proof is all over the place. KAT was a no Brainer!!! There were some questions about KP.

i wasn't responding to you.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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4/17/2016  10:11 PM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.

summer league is a guard's league and a wannabe/neverbeen league. it was clear from the workout videos that kp was certainly not nothing when 7'3" and those skills, and yet he NEVER saw the ball during summer league. however, stuffing okafor's shyt down his overrated throat with regularity was a prelude. all that can be said is that kp far exceeded expectations and grant fell short of expectations. you have demonstrated that you're not very good at assessing a player's value. try to be a bit less presumptuous and smug, and a bit more humble and you might learn something.

Way out of line and flat our wrong, stick to talking about Knicks; this other stuff is not appreciated and way off.

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4/17/2016  10:25 PM
dk7th wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:Really this guy rebuilt the Knicks something none of our past gm's have been able to do ... We are one superstar away from contending for a chip we already have one of the best front courts in the NBA. Grant and worton make me not worried about the pg spot... Let's see if Phil can get a all star 2 guard to want to come and play with the next superstar in kp and another star in melo

Demarr
Turner
Resigning Thomas and dwill if opt out

If Phil can accomplish those four moves we will be contending next year for the chip.

How many years have Knicks fans been saying that we need to stop throwing all our money and giving bad contracts out to every player that's any kind of name in the NBA and build this team the right way?? We finally get a GM/president in here that has went the way of the rebuild and doing it knowing they're gonna hear all the BS from the fans and media for a couple/few years until we have a good young team and the fans and media are shytting all over Phil for it. In two years from now there's a really good chance that we have a team that will be a playoff team and hopefully more for multiple years. I know the waiting sux and going through these last couple of years sux to but i really believe Phil has this team on the right track and if we can be patient for two more years or even just be patient through next year cause there's a chance that in the 2017 off season we could be getting that final piece we'll need and be ready to compete in the 2017/18 season.

Patience people patience. We're not as far away as a lot of people seem to think we are.

If planned out right the Knicks could throw money at a FA(Derozan or Conley) and still have cap flexibility next yr. Not that these things will happen but its not the same situation as the past.

Either way your taking a risk. If you do nothing you have more cap space but will be harder to attract FAs to a perennial loser. Trying to grab something this yr to show FAs improvement and team on the rise is just as necessary.

Safe route to go would be a stop gap G/F and buy a 2nd rder for another G/F.

The biggest difference from last year to this year Phil gets to sell the next greatest player in kp.

Look kp Is going to DOMINATE this league in a few years . Now that hat we have kp we are going to win a few chips cause once this kid becomes a man he is going to destroy the NBA . You have a kid who is a curry in a 7'3 body and blocks shots like deke, his Duncan bank is deadly too. When Phil talks to free agents phil should definitely bring up 3 things we have melo. Kp is going to be the next greatest and will be contending for chips for a long time, don't forget about becoming a Ny legend and forming one of the greatest 3 headed monsters in the media capital of the world..

Thank god for Phil a and KP it's about dam time

Believe me i would love all that to happen but lets try to get to .500 first before talking about giving phil a statue in front of msg

True what I was saying by being thankful, Phil is the first since Ewing era to have a real chip in kp I think players are going to want to play with kp . It really shouldn't be hard to attract top free agents with kp on board

well i agree about KP im a huge fan of his. However i cant praise phil until he actually constructs a winner. Drafting KP was a no brainer so now phil needs to prove he can build around him

I don't think it's fair to say KP was a no brainer! Yeah now it's clear but on draft night there were questions unanswered. There were many who wanted Winslow or Mudiay, so don't say it was a no brainer. That pick took guts as well as great scouting. He made the right choice rather than the SAFE choice. I give Phil lots of credit for that.

It wasn't a no brainer. KP was so thin and was considered a bit of a project. I expected Grant to have the more productive rookie year and that didn't change with the summer league when it seemed like KP was held out for injury from practice or games quite a bit.

summer league is a guard's league and a wannabe/neverbeen league. it was clear from the workout videos that kp was certainly not nothing when 7'3" and those skills, and yet he NEVER saw the ball during summer league. however, stuffing okafor's shyt down his overrated throat with regularity was a prelude. all that can be said is that kp far exceeded expectations and grant fell short of expectations. you have demonstrated that you're not very good at assessing a player's value. try to be a bit less presumptuous and smug, and a bit more humble and you might learn something.

1st of all FUCK YOU! I've evaluated players accurately and I have proof of that on this forum. I have no idea what you're talking about with KP! We all saw KP's raw talent but if you're gonna try to say you expected him to play as well as he did this year after watching Summer League your full of SHIT💩 We saw the talent and potential but not to be this good, this soon.

Jesus, relax there is no need for that language. KP was getting a lot of interest from the sixers and us so it was clear he was gonna be a top 4 or 5 pick

Don't tell me how to respond to a guy that attacks me personally. I'm not gonna sit back and take crap from him. My points about picking KP are my opinion based on very real views expressed at the time. The proof is all over the place. KAT was a no Brainer!!! There were some questions about KP.

i wasn't responding to you.

I stand corrected. I'm sorry I went off.

Thank god for Phil

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