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martin
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3/31/2016  3:51 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Galloway is a 6-1 shooting guard who does not have a great shot. A dime a dozen in the D league. We need to get real.

doesn't have great shot, handle, passing, or defense. Good rebounder for his position.

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3/31/2016  4:03 PM
martin wrote:
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crzymdups wrote:This is leadership from Melo.

“Don’t get me wrong, I know I still would like to be out there just playing and competing but at this point, if we can build guys like Jerian [Grant] and Langston [Galloway] and D-Will [Derrick Williams] and K.O. [Kyle O’Quinn] and jut giving those guys an opportunity that they probably wouldn’t have or haven’t had in the past I think is good for them. I think it’s good for the morale of the team, I think it’s good for their confidence because sometimes in situations like this you can as a player lose your confidence and that’s something we don’t want,” Anthony acknowledged.

I'll tell you what though, i'm just about done with L.Galloway and his horrible play on both ends of the court. JJ Barea was going around him with ease last night and his shooting is brutal.

same, I was going to start a thread on that. He had a horrible summer league and then lit the first month or so on fire with his shooting. Hasn't been the same since and IMHO has regressed. Wouldn't want him on the team next year.

Careful what you wish for!

Gallo has pretty much stunk up this year. He's shown flashes.

I think it depends what other players Phil is able to secure in the off season. Right now we have a lot of guys that are pieces of a good player- Gallo has flashes, hits some balls out shots - but then is gone 90% of the time. Grant can get into the lane, but can't make a lay up and can't shoot from outside. Calderon is a leader, runs the offense and can shoot, but can't play defense to save his life.

If there is an upgrade out there - I think Gallo & Grant can function as your 3/4/5/ guards- maybe not 1st guard off the bench, but the second.

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3/31/2016  4:22 PM
franco12 wrote:
martin wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:This is leadership from Melo.

“Don’t get me wrong, I know I still would like to be out there just playing and competing but at this point, if we can build guys like Jerian [Grant] and Langston [Galloway] and D-Will [Derrick Williams] and K.O. [Kyle O’Quinn] and jut giving those guys an opportunity that they probably wouldn’t have or haven’t had in the past I think is good for them. I think it’s good for the morale of the team, I think it’s good for their confidence because sometimes in situations like this you can as a player lose your confidence and that’s something we don’t want,” Anthony acknowledged.

I'll tell you what though, i'm just about done with L.Galloway and his horrible play on both ends of the court. JJ Barea was going around him with ease last night and his shooting is brutal.

same, I was going to start a thread on that. He had a horrible summer league and then lit the first month or so on fire with his shooting. Hasn't been the same since and IMHO has regressed. Wouldn't want him on the team next year.

Careful what you wish for!

Gallo has pretty much stunk up this year. He's shown flashes.

I think it depends what other players Phil is able to secure in the off season. Right now we have a lot of guys that are pieces of a good player- Gallo has flashes, hits some balls out shots - but then is gone 90% of the time. Grant can get into the lane, but can't make a lay up and can't shoot from outside. Calderon is a leader, runs the offense and can shoot, but can't play defense to save his life.

If there is an upgrade out there - I think Gallo & Grant can function as your 3/4/5/ guards- maybe not 1st guard off the bench, but the second.

Yeah we'll see i guess. I think what we all really want is for Grant to get starters minutes to see what he can do. 6 games isn't enough to really show that much growth but it will still be helpful and i'd like to see him out there with Melo, KP and Rolo to see what he can do with those 3 since they're our only real starters.

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3/31/2016  5:09 PM
martin wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
martin wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:
crzymdups wrote:This is leadership from Melo.

“Don’t get me wrong, I know I still would like to be out there just playing and competing but at this point, if we can build guys like Jerian [Grant] and Langston [Galloway] and D-Will [Derrick Williams] and K.O. [Kyle O’Quinn] and jut giving those guys an opportunity that they probably wouldn’t have or haven’t had in the past I think is good for them. I think it’s good for the morale of the team, I think it’s good for their confidence because sometimes in situations like this you can as a player lose your confidence and that’s something we don’t want,” Anthony acknowledged.

I'll tell you what though, i'm just about done with L.Galloway and his horrible play on both ends of the court. JJ Barea was going around him with ease last night and his shooting is brutal.

same, I was going to start a thread on that. He had a horrible summer league and then lit the first month or so on fire with his shooting. Hasn't been the same since and IMHO has regressed. Wouldn't want him on the team next year.

I was an early supporter of his, and he started off well this year, but I've been very disappointed with his "progress."

He's regressed, IMO, as the season has gone on. He's had some good moments, but has not shown the dependability you need to see from a guy in his position.

He is not shooting with the success he's shown at times in the past, he's making poor decisions with the ball, and his D has not been good enough to make us overlook his offensive issues.

Don't know what happened to him, or if there is something going on that we are unaware of, but he seems to be playing himself off the roster, which is sad, because he's shown potential at times.

Edit: Should we be looking at the coaches for not developing his game? We've seen spotty results from Grant, too. Is this another black mark against the system of ball we play, since we've rarely had good guard play since going to the Triangle?

I've always thought that progress is a combination of both player and coaches. A player can make progress without too much coaching, a player can make tremendous progress with the right coaching; coaches can be successful with some players and have zero success on another player with that same effort.

From rookies or young guys, I want to see an inkling of progress from season to season and to a lesser degree month to month. Even if it is sporadic, it means either the player is doing the right things at practice or on his own time or the coaching staff has a plan for player and is instructing and putting it to use. I see that with Grant, KP, (and Melo, Rolo) nothing from Gallo, DWill, KOQ.

I DID SEE A LITTLE IMPROVEMT (effort wise) on the defense end and rebounding from D WILL

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4/1/2016  10:02 AM
Early is being recalled from Westchester according to Team Stream.
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4/1/2016  10:20 AM
The plan was to piss off AA with going to the bench so he opts out and similarly to run Carmello into the ground and lose, so he agrees to a trade.

I can't remember EVER, reading a story where players went to the coach and asked for minutes to go to the younger guys.
I hate to say it, but this franchise is still a bit of a joke. Going in the right direction but still dysfunctional.
And we get the be reminded of that ineptitude again when we give a potential star top 10 pick to another team, yet again.

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4/1/2016  10:22 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:The plan was to piss off AA with going to the bench so he opts out and similarly to run Carmello into the ground and lose, so he agrees to a trade.

I can't remember EVER, reading a story where players went to the coach and asked for minutes to go to the younger guys.
I hate to say it, but this franchise is still a bit of a joke. Going in the right direction but still dysfunctional.
And we get the be reminded of that ineptitude again when we give a potential star top 10 pick to another team, yet again.

ha, you can't remember so many stories about player and GM tweets either. It's NY media, they report every mundane thing

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4/1/2016  10:52 AM
I'd keep Galloway as a 3rd unit/injury reserve player, sort of like O'Quinn is. On a cheap contract. 3 million a year at most. I'd shift his role towards more of what Afflalo or Sasha are asked to do, as opposed to being a point guard. He should stick to a catch and shoot role, as opposed to trying to be a point guard. I've been very disappointed with his play this year as the season has wired down.

I wouldn't overpay to keep him, but I'd give him another 2-3 years at 3 million a year. He's had some big games this season. However there's noway I rely on him being the 3rd or 4th guard on the roster. I'd want him to be 5th guard in our rotation, who would have to show he can play better than this season to break the rotation. If not for our lack of talent at the guard spots, Gallo wouldn't break the rotation the 2nd half of the season.

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4/1/2016  11:09 AM
I see our "young guys" as follows. These players I think may not be all that young, but can continue to improve.

Porzingis - 20, has to improve his strength and consistency with his moves on offense, could be a franchise player.
Grant - 23, has to improve his decision making and jumpshot, could be a solid backup point guard.
D-Will - 24, can still continue to improve his jumpshot. Doesn't always make the right shot selection choice and over relies on blowing by opponents off the dribble. A jumper would go a long way for him.
Galloway - 24, has to improve his jumpshot, and stick to simple ways to attack, catch and shoot or drives to the basket. Less ballhandling/PG style creating.
Early - 24, with the injury this year don't know what he can do well or not well right now. Maybe a wise idea to give him another crack in the summer league, sign him to a non-guaranteed 1 year deal and let him earn a spot in training camp. Would be smart to give him some minutes right now.


Others who likely play next season:
Wroten - 22, has to get healthy. After that, from what I've seen, he has to improve his decision making with the ball. Interesting to see what he looks like in the Triangle.
Hernangomez - 21, looks strong inside and a strong body, don't really know if his skill will translate to the NBA level. We'll see next year.

If Rambis cares about what the vets told him and wants to give the young guys a chance. New rotation

Lopez/Porzingis
Porzingis/Williams
Melo/Early
Galloway/Vujacic
Calderon/Grant
DNP Seraphin, Lou, Afflalo

May lose all but 1 or 2 of the remaining games, but it's worth it. We hit a decent competitive figure of wins with 30 already. At this point 33 wins or 31 wins won't make a difference to a free agent. It's the right time to take a look at players like Galloway, Early, Grant a little deeper to see what they could realistically give you next season.

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4/1/2016  1:05 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:I'd keep Galloway as a 3rd unit/injury reserve player, sort of like O'Quinn is. On a cheap contract. 3 million a year at most. I'd shift his role towards more of what Afflalo or Sasha are asked to do, as opposed to being a point guard. He should stick to a catch and shoot role, as opposed to trying to be a point guard. I've been very disappointed with his play this year as the season has wired down.

I wouldn't overpay to keep him, but I'd give him another 2-3 years at 3 million a year. He's had some big games this season. However there's noway I rely on him being the 3rd or 4th guard on the roster. I'd want him to be 5th guard in our rotation, who would have to show he can play better than this season to break the rotation. If not for our lack of talent at the guard spots, Gallo wouldn't break the rotation the 2nd half of the season.

You think our 5th guard should get $3 mil per?? I'd offer him $1 mil per at most.

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4/1/2016  1:37 PM
BRIGGS wrote:What young guys Early Galloway and Grant?

Exactly just because they will be playing garbage minutes for a month doesn't mean they will be developed and ready for next year. They, Langston especially, had months of garbage time minutes last season and look at Langston now. He has actually regressed

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4/1/2016  1:58 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:One of the things I really like about this team and it keeps me very interested in them despite no playoffs and limited talent is that they are a team. You can see how they look out for each other and try to be positive for one another. It's part of the culture change. Many fans won't get this but there's a gigantic difference in the basketball culture of the Knicks now vs 2 years ago. This is due to having players like Lopez, Calderon and Melo's maturity as a team player. Rarely do you see this with NBA teams. Veterans want to keep their stats up and look better in trade (and future FA) value. Instead we have guys wanting to see the younger players finish the season on a high so they can come back next year with confidence.

Big props to Melo, RoLo and Jose. I also feel that KP wouldn't have had the season he did if not for the support he got from Melo, Sasha, Jose and even RoLo. The team really looked out for him from start to finish. The only player I question has this mindset is Afflalo. Very me first with a look of disinterest for his teammates.

I totally agree with this .BIG change from a few years ago. I also attribute this to Phil's "wisdom".

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4/1/2016  3:26 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:One of the things I really like about this team and it keeps me very interested in them despite no playoffs and limited talent is that they are a team. You can see how they look out for each other and try to be positive for one another. It's part of the culture change. Many fans won't get this but there's a gigantic difference in the basketball culture of the Knicks now vs 2 years ago. This is due to having players like Lopez, Calderon and Melo's maturity as a team player. Rarely do you see this with NBA teams. Veterans want to keep their stats up and look better in trade (and future FA) value. Instead we have guys wanting to see the younger players finish the season on a high so they can come back next year with confidence.

Big props to Melo, RoLo and Jose. I also feel that KP wouldn't have had the season he did if not for the support he got from Melo, Sasha, Jose and even RoLo. The team really looked out for him from start to finish. The only player I question has this mindset is Afflalo. Very me first with a look of disinterest for his teammates.

+1 This
KP had the breakout rookie season of seasons. Not for nothing, you have to be in the right team, with the right teammates. See Philly.

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