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3/18/2016  11:09 AM
Knixkik wrote:
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Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time. Jordan, the greatest player of all time and greatest competitor of all time, is not as skilled as Curry. And he certainly could not guard Curry better than the best defenders in today's game. You are telling me that as dominant as Curry is, Jordan would be able to chase him around the perimeter and stop him from getting the stuff that he is getting now? Please. Jordan is the greatest of all time, but not a superhero like that. Curry has opened the game up. Jordan was a great defender, but the game was played 22 feet and in, not 30 feet and in like Curry is playing it today. Curry is faster than Jordan too. The Bulls might be the one team that could give this team problems today beccause Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper had a very unique versatility for that era which would translate well today, but in no way is anyone stopping what Curry is doing. He is doing it against better athletes today than existed in the 90s, bottom line. The rules were different, but it doesn't change how good players are today.

LMFAO! You don't think Phil Jackson couldn't devise a scheme to stop that bullshyt with his stable of thoroughbreds. His phucking disciple Kerr played on that 96 team!

No, Phil is not some wizard, he would not think of something that today's coaches can't. If he was, the Knicks would already be a contender. You and the rest of the old timers (retired players) need to stop acting like all those teams and players were better. Jordan would not average 40/10/10 today and hold Curry to 15 ppg, Big O would not average a triple double today, Wilt would not average 50 ppg and 25 rpg today, etc. It's just not happening. And while you mention Kerr, would he even be a high-quality NBA player today, when Jimmer can't even make a roster? The game has changed man, players and teams are better and have more depth. Bulls are the one timeless exception that could compete with today's warriors, but you are fooling yourself if you think they would dominate them.

Phil the coach is much different than Phil the executive (obviously). You forget Phil coached not too far from this current era. His 65 win Laker team that won back to back would've demolished this Warriors team with their skill and size with prime Kobe, prime Gasol, prime Odom, and prime Bynum. They would just batter them inside and on the boards like Cleveland almost did to the Warriors with Thompson and Mozgov.

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3/18/2016  11:13 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time. Jordan, the greatest player of all time and greatest competitor of all time, is not as skilled as Curry. And he certainly could not guard Curry better than the best defenders in today's game. You are telling me that as dominant as Curry is, Jordan would be able to chase him around the perimeter and stop him from getting the stuff that he is getting now? Please. Jordan is the greatest of all time, but not a superhero like that. Curry has opened the game up. Jordan was a great defender, but the game was played 22 feet and in, not 30 feet and in like Curry is playing it today. Curry is faster than Jordan too. The Bulls might be the one team that could give this team problems today beccause Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper had a very unique versatility for that era which would translate well today, but in no way is anyone stopping what Curry is doing. He is doing it against better athletes today than existed in the 90s, bottom line. The rules were different, but it doesn't change how good players are today.

LMFAO! You don't think Phil Jackson couldn't devise a scheme to stop that bullshyt with his stable of thoroughbreds. His phucking disciple Kerr played on that 96 team!

No, Phil is not some wizard, he would not think of something that today's coaches can't. If he was, the Knicks would already be a contender. You and the rest of the old timers (retired players) need to stop acting like all those teams and players were better. Jordan would not average 40/10/10 today and hold Curry to 15 ppg, Big O would not average a triple double today, Wilt would not average 50 ppg and 25 rpg today, etc. It's just not happening. And while you mention Kerr, would he even be a high-quality NBA player today, when Jimmer can't even make a roster? The game has changed man, players and teams are better and have more depth. Bulls are the one timeless exception that could compete with today's warriors, but you are fooling yourself if you think they would dominate them.

Phil the coach is much different than Phil the executive (obviously). You forget Phil coached not too far from this current era. His 65 win Laker team that won back to back would've demolished this Warriors team with their skill and size with prime Kobe, prime Gasol, prime Odom, and prime Bynum. They would just batter them inside and on the boards like Cleveland almost did to the Warriors with Thompson and Mozgov.

The same team that was taken to 7 games by the houston rockets in the 2nd round? Without Tmac? Sorry, not happening.

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3/18/2016  11:16 AM
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time. Jordan, the greatest player of all time and greatest competitor of all time, is not as skilled as Curry. And he certainly could not guard Curry better than the best defenders in today's game. You are telling me that as dominant as Curry is, Jordan would be able to chase him around the perimeter and stop him from getting the stuff that he is getting now? Please. Jordan is the greatest of all time, but not a superhero like that. Curry has opened the game up. Jordan was a great defender, but the game was played 22 feet and in, not 30 feet and in like Curry is playing it today. Curry is faster than Jordan too. The Bulls might be the one team that could give this team problems today beccause Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper had a very unique versatility for that era which would translate well today, but in no way is anyone stopping what Curry is doing. He is doing it against better athletes today than existed in the 90s, bottom line. The rules were different, but it doesn't change how good players are today.

LMFAO! You don't think Phil Jackson couldn't devise a scheme to stop that bullshyt with his stable of thoroughbreds. His phucking disciple Kerr played on that 96 team!

No, Phil is not some wizard, he would not think of something that today's coaches can't. If he was, the Knicks would already be a contender. You and the rest of the old timers (retired players) need to stop acting like all those teams and players were better. Jordan would not average 40/10/10 today and hold Curry to 15 ppg, Big O would not average a triple double today, Wilt would not average 50 ppg and 25 rpg today, etc. It's just not happening. And while you mention Kerr, would he even be a high-quality NBA player today, when Jimmer can't even make a roster? The game has changed man, players and teams are better and have more depth. Bulls are the one timeless exception that could compete with today's warriors, but you are fooling yourself if you think they would dominate them.

Phil the coach is much different than Phil the executive (obviously). You forget Phil coached not too far from this current era. His 65 win Laker team that won back to back would've demolished this Warriors team with their skill and size with prime Kobe, prime Gasol, prime Odom, and prime Bynum. They would just batter them inside and on the boards like Cleveland almost did to the Warriors with Thompson and Mozgov.

The same team that was taken to 7 games by the houston rockets in the 2nd round? Without Tmac? Sorry, not happening.

I will laugh in your face if San Antonio beats your greatest team ever on Saturday.

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3/18/2016  11:19 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time. Jordan, the greatest player of all time and greatest competitor of all time, is not as skilled as Curry. And he certainly could not guard Curry better than the best defenders in today's game. You are telling me that as dominant as Curry is, Jordan would be able to chase him around the perimeter and stop him from getting the stuff that he is getting now? Please. Jordan is the greatest of all time, but not a superhero like that. Curry has opened the game up. Jordan was a great defender, but the game was played 22 feet and in, not 30 feet and in like Curry is playing it today. Curry is faster than Jordan too. The Bulls might be the one team that could give this team problems today beccause Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper had a very unique versatility for that era which would translate well today, but in no way is anyone stopping what Curry is doing. He is doing it against better athletes today than existed in the 90s, bottom line. The rules were different, but it doesn't change how good players are today.

LMFAO! You don't think Phil Jackson couldn't devise a scheme to stop that bullshyt with his stable of thoroughbreds. His phucking disciple Kerr played on that 96 team!

No, Phil is not some wizard, he would not think of something that today's coaches can't. If he was, the Knicks would already be a contender. You and the rest of the old timers (retired players) need to stop acting like all those teams and players were better. Jordan would not average 40/10/10 today and hold Curry to 15 ppg, Big O would not average a triple double today, Wilt would not average 50 ppg and 25 rpg today, etc. It's just not happening. And while you mention Kerr, would he even be a high-quality NBA player today, when Jimmer can't even make a roster? The game has changed man, players and teams are better and have more depth. Bulls are the one timeless exception that could compete with today's warriors, but you are fooling yourself if you think they would dominate them.

Phil the coach is much different than Phil the executive (obviously). You forget Phil coached not too far from this current era. His 65 win Laker team that won back to back would've demolished this Warriors team with their skill and size with prime Kobe, prime Gasol, prime Odom, and prime Bynum. They would just batter them inside and on the boards like Cleveland almost did to the Warriors with Thompson and Mozgov.

The same team that was taken to 7 games by the houston rockets in the 2nd round? Without Tmac? Sorry, not happening.

I will laugh in your face if San Antonio beats your greatest team ever on Saturday.

What does today's San Antonio team have to do with these old school teams? I'm not comparing them to SA. I think SA is a great team too. In fact, i predicted SA to win the title at the beginning of the season. You and Action Jackson should get together with Big O and Stephen Jackson and talk about the good old days. I bet that would be entertaining.

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3/18/2016  11:21 AM
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time. Jordan, the greatest player of all time and greatest competitor of all time, is not as skilled as Curry. And he certainly could not guard Curry better than the best defenders in today's game. You are telling me that as dominant as Curry is, Jordan would be able to chase him around the perimeter and stop him from getting the stuff that he is getting now? Please. Jordan is the greatest of all time, but not a superhero like that. Curry has opened the game up. Jordan was a great defender, but the game was played 22 feet and in, not 30 feet and in like Curry is playing it today. Curry is faster than Jordan too. The Bulls might be the one team that could give this team problems today beccause Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper had a very unique versatility for that era which would translate well today, but in no way is anyone stopping what Curry is doing. He is doing it against better athletes today than existed in the 90s, bottom line. The rules were different, but it doesn't change how good players are today.

LMFAO! You don't think Phil Jackson couldn't devise a scheme to stop that bullshyt with his stable of thoroughbreds. His phucking disciple Kerr played on that 96 team!

No, Phil is not some wizard, he would not think of something that today's coaches can't. If he was, the Knicks would already be a contender. You and the rest of the old timers (retired players) need to stop acting like all those teams and players were better. Jordan would not average 40/10/10 today and hold Curry to 15 ppg, Big O would not average a triple double today, Wilt would not average 50 ppg and 25 rpg today, etc. It's just not happening. And while you mention Kerr, would he even be a high-quality NBA player today, when Jimmer can't even make a roster? The game has changed man, players and teams are better and have more depth. Bulls are the one timeless exception that could compete with today's warriors, but you are fooling yourself if you think they would dominate them.

Phil the coach is much different than Phil the executive (obviously). You forget Phil coached not too far from this current era. His 65 win Laker team that won back to back would've demolished this Warriors team with their skill and size with prime Kobe, prime Gasol, prime Odom, and prime Bynum. They would just batter them inside and on the boards like Cleveland almost did to the Warriors with Thompson and Mozgov.

The same team that was taken to 7 games by the houston rockets in the 2nd round? Without Tmac? Sorry, not happening.

I will laugh in your face if San Antonio beats your greatest team ever on Saturday.

What does today's San Antonio team have to do with these old school teams? I'm not comparing them to SA. I think SA is a great team too. In fact, i predicted SA to win the title at the beginning of the season. You and Action Jackson should get together with Big O and Stephen Jackson and talk about the good old days. I bet that would be entertaining.

If GS can't beat San Antonio on Saturday, how would they beat all time great teams like the Jax led Lakers and Bulls teams. You don't make sense. The Warriors record and performance is due to their era and lack of competition. Too much parity, and the wrong kind, bad.

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3/18/2016  11:23 AM
Knixkik wrote:You and Action Jackson should get together with Big O and Stephen Jackson and talk about the good old days. I bet that would be entertaining.

We would invite you to this gathering but honestly, I don't think most bars allow 15 year olds

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3/18/2016  11:26 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:Different eras and favors the offensive players and offensive systems. No hand checking and such, and there are no true dominant bigs nowadays, so why plant plodders and post up guys in your lineup. Go full retard and speedball it.

Warriors are fully taking advantage of this era's rules....we should applaud them!

Now if you were to have a debate 96 Bulls vs 16 Warriors, you'd have to apply the same logic. Which era's rules would you play in the 90s or 2010's? Either way I'd give the edge to Jordan and Jax Bulls, MJ would not simply allow Curry to go off and would take it upon himself to murder and destroy him mentally and physically. Pip would lock down Klay, and Rodman would give Draymond some noogies.

+1

Today players' mental toughness is a joke comparing with 90s.

And the rules prevail. See what happen if hand checking is back. Curry will be Reggie Miller, at most.

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3/18/2016  11:30 AM
ActionJackson wrote:
Knixkik wrote:You and Action Jackson should get together with Big O and Stephen Jackson and talk about the good old days. I bet that would be entertaining.

We would invite you to this gathering but honestly, I don't think most bars allow 15 year olds

Lol

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3/18/2016  11:30 AM
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ChuckBuck wrote:Different eras and favors the offensive players and offensive systems. No hand checking and such, and there are no true dominant bigs nowadays, so why plant plodders and post up guys in your lineup. Go full retard and speedball it.

Warriors are fully taking advantage of this era's rules....we should applaud them!

Now if you were to have a debate 96 Bulls vs 16 Warriors, you'd have to apply the same logic. Which era's rules would you play in the 90s or 2010's? Either way I'd give the edge to Jordan and Jax Bulls, MJ would not simply allow Curry to go off and would take it upon himself to murder and destroy him mentally and physically. Pip would lock down Klay, and Rodman would give Draymond some noogies.

+1

Today players' mental toughness is a joke comparing with 90s.

And the rules prevail. See what happen if hand checking is back. Curry will be Reggie Miller, at most.

and honestly that's not a bad thing to be, Reggie was a certified killer and amazing player. I dont want my critique of the Warriors to be misconstrued as hate or disrespect for their accomplishments, I'm just saying that they are succeeding in an era designed to allow them to succeed. I think the true MVP of their organization is their GM who foresaw the writing on the wall and put together a team that could dominate this hands off manifestation of the league.

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3/18/2016  11:32 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time. Jordan, the greatest player of all time and greatest competitor of all time, is not as skilled as Curry. And he certainly could not guard Curry better than the best defenders in today's game. You are telling me that as dominant as Curry is, Jordan would be able to chase him around the perimeter and stop him from getting the stuff that he is getting now? Please. Jordan is the greatest of all time, but not a superhero like that. Curry has opened the game up. Jordan was a great defender, but the game was played 22 feet and in, not 30 feet and in like Curry is playing it today. Curry is faster than Jordan too. The Bulls might be the one team that could give this team problems today beccause Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper had a very unique versatility for that era which would translate well today, but in no way is anyone stopping what Curry is doing. He is doing it against better athletes today than existed in the 90s, bottom line. The rules were different, but it doesn't change how good players are today.

LMFAO! You don't think Phil Jackson couldn't devise a scheme to stop that bullshyt with his stable of thoroughbreds. His phucking disciple Kerr played on that 96 team!

No, Phil is not some wizard, he would not think of something that today's coaches can't. If he was, the Knicks would already be a contender. You and the rest of the old timers (retired players) need to stop acting like all those teams and players were better. Jordan would not average 40/10/10 today and hold Curry to 15 ppg, Big O would not average a triple double today, Wilt would not average 50 ppg and 25 rpg today, etc. It's just not happening. And while you mention Kerr, would he even be a high-quality NBA player today, when Jimmer can't even make a roster? The game has changed man, players and teams are better and have more depth. Bulls are the one timeless exception that could compete with today's warriors, but you are fooling yourself if you think they would dominate them.

Phil the coach is much different than Phil the executive (obviously). You forget Phil coached not too far from this current era. His 65 win Laker team that won back to back would've demolished this Warriors team with their skill and size with prime Kobe, prime Gasol, prime Odom, and prime Bynum. They would just batter them inside and on the boards like Cleveland almost did to the Warriors with Thompson and Mozgov.

The same team that was taken to 7 games by the houston rockets in the 2nd round? Without Tmac? Sorry, not happening.

I will laugh in your face if San Antonio beats your greatest team ever on Saturday.

What does today's San Antonio team have to do with these old school teams? I'm not comparing them to SA. I think SA is a great team too. In fact, i predicted SA to win the title at the beginning of the season. You and Action Jackson should get together with Big O and Stephen Jackson and talk about the good old days. I bet that would be entertaining.

If GS can't beat San Antonio on Saturday, how would they beat all time great teams like the Jax led Lakers and Bulls teams. You don't make sense. The Warriors record and performance is due to their era and lack of competition. Too much parity, and the wrong kind, bad.

Dude, it's a regular season game in march. Who cares. The Warriors have lost 6 games all year. If they lose a 7th game to San Antonio they aren't losing any sleep over it. The fact that you are comparing a game in march to their ability to beat the Bulls or Lakers in a 7 game playoff series is bizarre.

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3/18/2016  11:32 AM
ActionJackson wrote:
Knixkik wrote:You and Action Jackson should get together with Big O and Stephen Jackson and talk about the good old days. I bet that would be entertaining.

We would invite you to this gathering but honestly, I don't think most bars allow 15 year olds

Really is remarkable for this new generation. Too much snap chatting, tweeting, vining, instant gratification. Someone sub tweeted that Curry is the GOAT so he must be!

Friggin' Porzingis made Curry's hall way shot in flip flops in one try. Anything can be duplicated over time. Curry's not the first to perform at this level and won't be the last. Come on man, Curry is great, but he's not quite Mount Rushmore great with MJ and Oscar and Wilt yet

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3/18/2016  11:37 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

jordan could not stop curry ... nobody can. With his dribbling and retarded range? You kidding me?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/18/2016  11:38 AM
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ActionJackson wrote:
Knixkik wrote:You and Action Jackson should get together with Big O and Stephen Jackson and talk about the good old days. I bet that would be entertaining.

We would invite you to this gathering but honestly, I don't think most bars allow 15 year olds

Really is remarkable for this new generation. Too much snap chatting, tweeting, vining, instant gratification. Someone sub tweeted that Curry is the GOAT so he must be!

Friggin' Porzingis made Curry's hall way shot in flip flops in one try. Anything can be duplicated over time. Curry's not the first to perform at this level and won't be the last. Come on man, Curry is great, but he's not quite Mount Rushmore great with MJ and Oscar and Wilt yet

Sure, since Curry is the most marketable players right now. A hall way shot of him seems a big deal to the whole world.

Not talking about MJ, Oscar and Wilt, I am still doubting if Curry is as great as Allen Iverson.

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3/18/2016  11:39 AM
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Knixkik wrote:Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time.

First of all let me just say that as a Knick fan I despise Jordan but this statement of yours is just absolutely ridiculous. Curry is a very skilled shooter and what makes him amazing is the ability to shoot off the dribble with the accuracy formerly reserved for stand in the corner spot up guys but where your argument for GOAT falls flat is what else does he do??? Defense....Not so much...Assits to Turnover ratio....ehhh....Post Up game....to little to even think about it. He is at best a man in the right place at the right time but in any other era he would be what his father was, a very good role player.

Wow, now i have heard it all. Yeah and i bet you think Big O would average 40/15/15 today, Wilt average 75 and 30 since he averaged 50 and 25 and jordan would average 50/10/10. And i guess that means LeBron would just be a high-level role player too. Come on, it's one thing to say yesterday's players could still dominant the same way today, its another to say today's stars would be role players yesterday. Stockton was a star in the 90s, Today's Curry would be on another level in any other era. Teams wouldn't know what to do with him.

great point about stockton that I was just going to make. Curry is stockton x 50 and stockton played great against everyone.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/18/2016  11:40 AM
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ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

jordan could not stop curry ... nobody can. With his dribbling and retarded range? You kidding me?

Are you sure?

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3/18/2016  11:41 AM
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ChuckBuck wrote:
ActionJackson wrote:
Knixkik wrote:You and Action Jackson should get together with Big O and Stephen Jackson and talk about the good old days. I bet that would be entertaining.

We would invite you to this gathering but honestly, I don't think most bars allow 15 year olds

Really is remarkable for this new generation. Too much snap chatting, tweeting, vining, instant gratification. Someone sub tweeted that Curry is the GOAT so he must be!

Friggin' Porzingis made Curry's hall way shot in flip flops in one try. Anything can be duplicated over time. Curry's not the first to perform at this level and won't be the last. Come on man, Curry is great, but he's not quite Mount Rushmore great with MJ and Oscar and Wilt yet

Sure, since Curry is the most marketable players right now. A hall way shot of him seems a big deal to the whole world.

Not talking about MJ, Oscar and Wilt, I am still doubting if Curry is as great as Allen Iverson.

this wins in my book the absolute worst post of the year. Iverson??? Dude! you need to nap (for a month) hhahaha geeeez

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/18/2016  11:43 AM
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ActionJackson wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time.

First of all let me just say that as a Knick fan I despise Jordan but this statement of yours is just absolutely ridiculous. Curry is a very skilled shooter and what makes him amazing is the ability to shoot off the dribble with the accuracy formerly reserved for stand in the corner spot up guys but where your argument for GOAT falls flat is what else does he do??? Defense....Not so much...Assits to Turnover ratio....ehhh....Post Up game....to little to even think about it. He is at best a man in the right place at the right time but in any other era he would be what his father was, a very good role player.

Wow, now i have heard it all. Yeah and i bet you think Big O would average 40/15/15 today, Wilt average 75 and 30 since he averaged 50 and 25 and jordan would average 50/10/10. And i guess that means LeBron would just be a high-level role player too. Come on, it's one thing to say yesterday's players could still dominant the same way today, its another to say today's stars would be role players yesterday. Stockton was a star in the 90s, Today's Curry would be on another level in any other era. Teams wouldn't know what to do with him.

great point about stockton that I was just going to make. Curry is stockton x 50 and stockton played great against everyone.


Exactly. The old school junkies here will argue that everyone from that era was more competitive and mentally tougher or whatever so the fact that Curry is 50 times better than Stockton is irrelevant lol.
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3/18/2016  11:44 AM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
ActionJackson wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time.

First of all let me just say that as a Knick fan I despise Jordan but this statement of yours is just absolutely ridiculous. Curry is a very skilled shooter and what makes him amazing is the ability to shoot off the dribble with the accuracy formerly reserved for stand in the corner spot up guys but where your argument for GOAT falls flat is what else does he do??? Defense....Not so much...Assits to Turnover ratio....ehhh....Post Up game....to little to even think about it. He is at best a man in the right place at the right time but in any other era he would be what his father was, a very good role player.

Wow, now i have heard it all. Yeah and i bet you think Big O would average 40/15/15 today, Wilt average 75 and 30 since he averaged 50 and 25 and jordan would average 50/10/10. And i guess that means LeBron would just be a high-level role player too. Come on, it's one thing to say yesterday's players could still dominant the same way today, its another to say today's stars would be role players yesterday. Stockton was a star in the 90s, Today's Curry would be on another level in any other era. Teams wouldn't know what to do with him.

great point about stockton that I was just going to make. Curry is stockton x 50 and stockton played great against everyone.


Exactly. The old school junkies here will argue that everyone from that era was more competitive and mentally tougher or whatever so the fact that Curry is 50 times better than Stockton is irrelevant lol.

this is a classified behavioral disorder. Its understandable.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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mreinman wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

jordan could not stop curry ... nobody can. With his dribbling and retarded range? You kidding me?

Are you sure?

I am sure. Guarding players 20 feet and in is easier than guarding players you have to pick up once they get over half court. And you have to chase around screens for days. Curry's speed, conditioning, use of screens, bball IQ, and quick release would make Jordan's head spin.

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3/18/2016  11:50 AM
mreinman wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

jordan could not stop curry ... nobody can. With his dribbling and retarded range? You kidding me?

Which era are we playing in? 90s or now? And if we're playing today, who's to say Phil doesn't go small and insert Kukoc at center who could drain 3s and dish with the best of them.

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