martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:I didn't like the needless little dig of saying KP Dropped to Phil as if it was just pure luck and a no brainer. There was PLENTY of disagreement on who should be drafted at #4. Heck SAS made it into a Federal case that Phil would draft KP over a more well known and ready to contribute NCAA player!!! It was far from just an easy call. It also understates the work the Knicks did in vetting all the prospects in this draft. They made the right choice in KP.

Then he said Phil did nothing to clear out the Front Office, but really Phil kept important guys like Warkentien and added his main scout Gaines. They've been doing a good job. It's underappreciated how hard it is to convince FA's to come to a 17 win team. Phil had to make some kind of progress this year and they did even with the losing stretch. Who knows how things would've played out if Melo doesn't trip over that ref.

As for the Coach, I think it's also unfair. OK Fish didn't work out, but Phil actually tried to get Kerr 1st!!! Right now he's giving Rambis a shot but that doesn't guarantee he won't change his mind and go with a guy like Thibs. No one has said Rambis is LOCKED IN. There's only rumors so far.

Phil will have cap space this summer and all the future draft picks. He hasn't doomed the franchise. A lot of progress was made this summer in terms of the roster even if they still have holes to fill. Let's see if he can fill those holes this summer.

we should have paid Kerr 60 million not Phil. We low balled Kerr.

And yes. KP was no lower than 4 on most draft boards but thanks anyways. Now lets see if Rambis can finish turning him into a second rounder.

I thought we made an offer to Kerr which he accepted but then a better opportunity came up. Which is it?

thought we lowballed him.

A better option came up so even if we did not lowball him, he may have passed.

you just made that lowball stuff up, right? What were the particulars of the Kerr offer?

thats bs and you should google it before you point fingers.

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:I didn't like the needless little dig of saying KP Dropped to Phil as if it was just pure luck and a no brainer. There was PLENTY of disagreement on who should be drafted at #4. Heck SAS made it into a Federal case that Phil would draft KP over a more well known and ready to contribute NCAA player!!! It was far from just an easy call. It also understates the work the Knicks did in vetting all the prospects in this draft. They made the right choice in KP.

Then he said Phil did nothing to clear out the Front Office, but really Phil kept important guys like Warkentien and added his main scout Gaines. They've been doing a good job. It's underappreciated how hard it is to convince FA's to come to a 17 win team. Phil had to make some kind of progress this year and they did even with the losing stretch. Who knows how things would've played out if Melo doesn't trip over that ref.

As for the Coach, I think it's also unfair. OK Fish didn't work out, but Phil actually tried to get Kerr 1st!!! Right now he's giving Rambis a shot but that doesn't guarantee he won't change his mind and go with a guy like Thibs. No one has said Rambis is LOCKED IN. There's only rumors so far.

Phil will have cap space this summer and all the future draft picks. He hasn't doomed the franchise. A lot of progress was made this summer in terms of the roster even if they still have holes to fill. Let's see if he can fill those holes this summer.

we should have paid Kerr 60 million not Phil. We low balled Kerr.

And yes. KP was no lower than 4 on most draft boards but thanks anyways. Now lets see if Rambis can finish turning him into a second rounder.

I thought we made an offer to Kerr which he accepted but then a better opportunity came up. Which is it?

thought we lowballed him.

A better option came up so even if we did not lowball him, he may have passed.

you just made that lowball stuff up, right? What were the particulars of the Kerr offer?

thats bs and you should google it before you point fingers.

don't need to, he had accepted offer but Phil let him out.

"made that up"?

phil did not let him out of nothin.

it was (allegedly) a verbal commitment (not binding or needing a release) and kerr had reservations and then got a better offer from GS so it was a no brainer. Especially since Dolan lowballed him (and is a slimy dude).

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:I didn't like the needless little dig of saying KP Dropped to Phil as if it was just pure luck and a no brainer. There was PLENTY of disagreement on who should be drafted at #4. Heck SAS made it into a Federal case that Phil would draft KP over a more well known and ready to contribute NCAA player!!! It was far from just an easy call. It also understates the work the Knicks did in vetting all the prospects in this draft. They made the right choice in KP.

Then he said Phil did nothing to clear out the Front Office, but really Phil kept important guys like Warkentien and added his main scout Gaines. They've been doing a good job. It's underappreciated how hard it is to convince FA's to come to a 17 win team. Phil had to make some kind of progress this year and they did even with the losing stretch. Who knows how things would've played out if Melo doesn't trip over that ref.

As for the Coach, I think it's also unfair. OK Fish didn't work out, but Phil actually tried to get Kerr 1st!!! Right now he's giving Rambis a shot but that doesn't guarantee he won't change his mind and go with a guy like Thibs. No one has said Rambis is LOCKED IN. There's only rumors so far.

Phil will have cap space this summer and all the future draft picks. He hasn't doomed the franchise. A lot of progress was made this summer in terms of the roster even if they still have holes to fill. Let's see if he can fill those holes this summer.

we should have paid Kerr 60 million not Phil. We low balled Kerr.

And yes. KP was no lower than 4 on most draft boards but thanks anyways. Now lets see if Rambis can finish turning him into a second rounder.

Also Rambis was the Knicks Big Man Coach and has been working with KP all along. He's not trying to hurt the kid. This is just more nonsense.

Ian Begley
ESPN Staff Writer

If it takes a village to raise a child, it takes an entire NBA organization to develop a 19-year-old rookie.

That's what's happening with Kristaps Porzingis and the New York Knicks.

The Knicks front office, coaching staff and trainers, as well as and Porzingis' teammates, will all play a role in the rookie's development this season.

But one member of the organization may play a more prominent role than others with the Latvian big man.

According to league sources with knowledge of the situation, the plan right now is for associate head coach Kurt Rambis to work closely and extensively with Porzingis in his first season in the NBA.

It makes sense that, of all of the coaches on Derek Fisher's staff, Rambis would be the one to work intimately with Porzingis.

Rambis, 6-foot-8, played 14 seasons as a power forward in the NBA, winning four titles with the Los Angeles Lakers. More than any other member of the staff, Rambis can relate to what the 7-3 Porzingis will see on a nightly basis in the NBA.

Rambis also knows the Knicks' triangle offense well.

He worked in Los Angeles under current Knicks president and former Lakers coach Phil Jackson and was an assistant when Fisher played for the Lakers.

Starting immediately, Rambis will also work more hands-on with prized prospect Kristaps Porzingis. Rambis' strength is teaching big men, and he has had a major role in center Robin Lopez's better-than-expected work for the Knicks.

foosballnick wrote:

Nalod wrote:Porn for the Phil hater.

Spot on. Certain posters here seemingly need to continually beat an agenda to death to make themselves feel better.

Are you saying Adrian Wojnarowski is a bitter poster here who made this video to beat his anti-Phil agenda to death?

ChuckBuck wrote:Jackson lowballed Kerr at 3 years $13 million.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24565154/report-knicks-lost-out-on-steve-kerr-because-of-3-year-13-million-offer

They then panic hired Fisher to 5 years $25 million for some stupid phucking reason.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/stever-kerr-verbally-agreed-knicks-job-phil-jackson-reveals-article-1.1811475

Phil Jackson publicly expressed interest in Derek Fisher as the Knicks’ next head coach while revealing that Steve Kerr had made a verbal commitment to take the job the day before the Golden State Warriors’ job became available.

“I had to kind of release him to actually go to this job and say, ‘You have to do what’s right for yourself,’ ” Jackson said on Friday. “I understood entirely the process he was going through to have that job open up. That was something he kind of thought would be a good fit for him. So that’s good, we’re happy for him.”

Kerr, who signed a five-year, $25 million deal to coach the Warriors, had reservations about working at Madison Square Garden, considering that Garden chairman James Dolan has had seven head coaches over the last 14 years. Jackson, the Knicks’ president, denied reports that Kerr decided not to join the Knicks because the club was offering a contract with fewer years and less money.

“There were plenty of things in the contract where he could have come here and been very satisfied,” Jackson added. “So that really wasn’t the issue. The issue was about California, and the issue was about — to be perfectly honest, it’s a better job for him. He’s a California guy. It’s a group of guys that are for him, been in the playoffs, been there. They have a really good operating team right now.

“We’re still a team that didn’t make the playoffs, have to put together a roster. I’m not saying we have to rebuild, per se, but we have to build a competitive team, whereas that team — what did they get, to the semifinals last year, and this year they got bumped in the first round. But that’s — playoff experience is important.”

ChuckBuck wrote:Kerr gave Phil a verbal agreement, Golden State got involved and offered 5 years $22 mill off the bat, then Phil and NY moved up their offer to 4 years $17 mill.

http://nypost.com/2015/01/10/what-about-the-verbal-agreement-how-close-kerr-knicks-were/

Basically NY never really gave Kerr a good offer. They lowballed from jump, and even their counter was a lowball as well. Kerr's family proximity and the ready made roster in GS were the icing on the cake.

Don't you think these statements are most important:

“Yes, there was,” Kerr said. “I told Phil that I was going to come as long as we could work a contract out. And we didn’t ever work a contract out. I was going to go assuming they made a fair offer — which they ultimately did — but during that span when we started to negotiate, the Warriors’ job opened up. So I felt horrible because Phil means so much to me.

“Ultimately, if I would have been unhappy being 3,000 miles from my family going through a really rough rebuilding job, I probably wouldn’t have been a very good coach,” Kerr said.

Kerr admitted the difficulty in telling Jackson. But Jackson understood.

“It wasn’t like they lowballed me. But this was in my heart and I felt it,” Kerr said. “Phil couldn’t have been better. He said, ‘You have to follow your heart. This won’t affect our friendship. I respect what you’re doing.’ That’s why Phil is Phil.”

crzymdups wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Nalod wrote:Porn for the Phil hater.

Spot on. Certain posters here seemingly need to continually beat an agenda to death to make themselves feel better.

Are you saying Adrian Wojnarowski is a bitter poster here who made this video to beat his anti-Phil agenda to death?

No, I'm saying that people will scour the internet to find items to post/link that support their agenda. If the shoe fits.......

foosballnick wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

Nalod wrote:Porn for the Phil hater.

Spot on. Certain posters here seemingly need to continually beat an agenda to death to make themselves feel better.

Are you saying Adrian Wojnarowski is a bitter poster here who made this video to beat his anti-Phil agenda to death?

No, I'm saying that people will scour the internet to find items to post/link that support their agenda. If the shoe fits.......

I love posters who worry all the time about other posters agenda's. Those are the ones who wish they had their own.

The posters who keep "+1000" everyone .... LMAO

The posters who always say "well ... don't try to bring LOGIC into this"