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newyorker4ever
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3/6/2016  3:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/6/2016  3:14 PM
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newyorker4ever wrote:If we finish the season strong it won't be for a chance at the playoffs cause that's not happening but it would be big for how free agents look at this team and for them having any thought about joining this team in the off season which is huge for us. We all including myself have been giving Afflalo hellz for his play but he showed us how good we can play with him playing like Melo's 2nd man which he was supposed to be and what he was playing like when we were winning. When he's hitting his 10/15 jumper and getting some boards we can compete and Rolo has really stepped his game up as well.

We can be a really good team with our front court of Melo/KP/Rolo and adding two players which we all know is a legit PG and SG and putting Afflalo at 6th man.


Afflalo is likely gonna opt out for a longer deal. I wouldn't be surprised if it's us giving it to him. I also see the Knicks matching whatever offer Galloway gets. That's a chunk of the cap space right there.

IF they offer AA more money phill needs to leave. Also, unless gallo sign's an early offer sheet then he will not take up any cap space. They can go over on Gallo. The real FA to worry about taking up cap space is Lance Thomas. His early bird rights only helps so much if he gets offered over the league's avg his money then comes of the cap space.


Gallo is likely to get an offer sheet very early. Everyone will have cap space, somebody is gonna test where the Knicks stand with him. the Afflalo part is tricky, but yes, I do think the Knicks resign him.

Am i missing something with Gallo's game?? He's stinking up the joint and the only reason he gets as many minutes as he does get is because he's one of our better guards on a team full of crappy guards. He has absolutely no confidence in his shot and his defense is over rated. His defense isn't horrible but it's not as good as some seem to think it is. We'll see what happens with him but if he gets some crazy offer then we need to walk him to the front door with his bags.

No way does Phil give Afflalo more than the $8 million he's making now. I do have a feeling that Afflalo is gonna all of the sudden start playing better like he did last night and finish out the year playing good cause he has his opt out and a new contract on his mind. This is the reason why i'm sketchy with guys like E.Turner and J.Green and others playing on the last year of their deals. All of the sudden these guys are playing their best basketball that they've played all year and really for the last couple of years in the 2nd half of the season cause they're playing for a new contract. Why would you want anyone that only plays their best basketball and plays their hardest when they need a new contract? That means that the whole time they had what they're doing now in them but never let it out until now, so what does that mean you'd get from them once they have their new contract signed?? Buyer beware.

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3/7/2016  12:26 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:
EnySpree wrote:What if they win 5 out of 6?

Nuggets, suns, clippers, Lakers, warriors and wizards.

Knicks ate currently 6.5 games out. Nobody in front of them are really playing great basketball.


Geez...This has thread has "jinx" written all over it.

Got to think game to game and not look ahead, IMO.


Beating Detroit tells us how mediocre the teams ahead of us are, and that if a few things had bounced our way we could have been in the hunt for a playoff spot.


I'm just hesitant to raise my expectations at this point.

this is where I am.

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3/7/2016  12:38 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:
knickscity wrote:
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newyorker4ever wrote:If we finish the season strong it won't be for a chance at the playoffs cause that's not happening but it would be big for how free agents look at this team and for them having any thought about joining this team in the off season which is huge for us. We all including myself have been giving Afflalo hellz for his play but he showed us how good we can play with him playing like Melo's 2nd man which he was supposed to be and what he was playing like when we were winning. When he's hitting his 10/15 jumper and getting some boards we can compete and Rolo has really stepped his game up as well.

We can be a really good team with our front court of Melo/KP/Rolo and adding two players which we all know is a legit PG and SG and putting Afflalo at 6th man.


Afflalo is likely gonna opt out for a longer deal. I wouldn't be surprised if it's us giving it to him. I also see the Knicks matching whatever offer Galloway gets. That's a chunk of the cap space right there.

IF they offer AA more money phill needs to leave. Also, unless gallo sign's an early offer sheet then he will not take up any cap space. They can go over on Gallo. The real FA to worry about taking up cap space is Lance Thomas. His early bird rights only helps so much if he gets offered over the league's avg his money then comes of the cap space.


Gallo is likely to get an offer sheet very early. Everyone will have cap space, somebody is gonna test where the Knicks stand with him. the Afflalo part is tricky, but yes, I do think the Knicks resign him.

Am i missing something with Gallo's game?? He's stinking up the joint and the only reason he gets as many minutes as he does get is because he's one of our better guards on a team full of crappy guards. He has absolutely no confidence in his shot and his defense is over rated. His defense isn't horrible but it's not as good as some seem to think it is. We'll see what happens with him but if he gets some crazy offer then we need to walk him to the front door with his bags.

No way does Phil give Afflalo more than the $8 million he's making now. I do have a feeling that Afflalo is gonna all of the sudden start playing better like he did last night and finish out the year playing good cause he has his opt out and a new contract on his mind. This is the reason why i'm sketchy with guys like E.Turner and J.Green and others playing on the last year of their deals. All of the sudden these guys are playing their best basketball that they've played all year and really for the last couple of years in the 2nd half of the season cause they're playing for a new contract. Why would you want anyone that only plays their best basketball and plays their hardest when they need a new contract? That means that the whole time they had what they're doing now in them but never let it out until now, so what does that mean you'd get from them once they have their new contract signed?? Buyer beware.


I do think the Knicks resign both. They'll almost have to. Galloway is a good bench player, but he's inconsistent, as is the team. he's worth keeping, not at any cost, but he will get paid.
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3/7/2016  2:08 AM
crzymdups wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
EnySpree wrote:What if they win 5 out of 6?

Nuggets, suns, clippers, Lakers, warriors and wizards.

Knicks ate currently 6.5 games out. Nobody in front of them are really playing great basketball.


Geez...This has thread has "jinx" written all over it.

Got to think game to game and not look ahead, IMO.


Beating Detroit tells us how mediocre the teams ahead of us are, and that if a few things had bounced our way we could have been in the hunt for a playoff spot.


I'm just hesitant to raise my expectations at this point.

this is where I am.

The magic of following a team is to think ahead and play what if. Hope is a big part of the joy of following a team. There can be alot of bad things go wrong but you can't let things steal the joy out of it.

Yeah you'll get joy out of the finished product. But if you didn't enjoy the build then you missed the whole point.

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3/7/2016  6:51 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/7/2016  6:52 AM
StarksEwing1 wrote:I respect the optimism eny but the season is over. All i want is for KP and grant to get more playing time heading into next season.

Yeah, after each win, some start to think this is a good roster. Even if we were the 76ers, there would have been 8 days of threads optimistic threads followed by reality.

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3/7/2016  9:13 AM
Win 4 or 5 out of 6 on the road trip ????

For crying out loud ---We haven't won back to back games in about 2 months !

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3/7/2016  10:13 AM
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newyorker4ever wrote:If we finish the season strong it won't be for a chance at the playoffs cause that's not happening but it would be big for how free agents look at this team and for them having any thought about joining this team in the off season which is huge for us. We all including myself have been giving Afflalo hellz for his play but he showed us how good we can play with him playing like Melo's 2nd man which he was supposed to be and what he was playing like when we were winning. When he's hitting his 10/15 jumper and getting some boards we can compete and Rolo has really stepped his game up as well.

We can be a really good team with our front court of Melo/KP/Rolo and adding two players which we all know is a legit PG and SG and putting Afflalo at 6th man.


Afflalo is likely gonna opt out for a longer deal. I wouldn't be surprised if it's us giving it to him. I also see the Knicks matching whatever offer Galloway gets. That's a chunk of the cap space right there.

Galloway has regressed, I would keep him but only at the right price

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3/7/2016  10:15 AM
wargames wrote:If AA or Dwill opts out I think they let them go unless the deal is really advantageous to sign for the knicks.

I see them supporting Gallo though with that offer sheet. He's played well for them and far too often they don't keep their youth and regret it. Also I doubt a team throws a crazy amount at him

I would keep Dwill, he is one of the few guys on this roster that can score

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3/7/2016  10:33 AM
EnySpree wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:
EnySpree wrote:What if they win 5 out of 6?

Nuggets, suns, clippers, Lakers, warriors and wizards.

Knicks ate currently 6.5 games out. Nobody in front of them are really playing great basketball.


Geez...This has thread has "jinx" written all over it.

Got to think game to game and not look ahead, IMO.


Beating Detroit tells us how mediocre the teams ahead of us are, and that if a few things had bounced our way we could have been in the hunt for a playoff spot.


I'm just hesitant to raise my expectations at this point.

this is where I am.

The magic of following a team is to think ahead and play what if. Hope is a big part of the joy of following a team. There can be alot of bad things go wrong but you can't let things steal the joy out of it.

Yeah you'll get joy out of the finished product. But if you didn't enjoy the build then you missed the whole point.


+1

But maybe it's really just much more fun to play blow it all up/tank now in every other thread?

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3/7/2016  11:18 AM
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wargames wrote:If AA or Dwill opts out I think they let them go unless the deal is really advantageous to sign for the knicks.

I see them supporting Gallo though with that offer sheet. He's played well for them and far too often they don't keep their youth and regret it. Also I doubt a team throws a crazy amount at him

I would keep Dwill, he is one of the few guys on this roster that can score

I'd like to keep DWill, but it won't be because he can score, rather keep guys who are getting better. This is what I keep asking myself, is DWill getting better or is he doing the same things as last year?

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3/7/2016  1:31 PM
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Jmpasq wrote:
wargames wrote:If AA or Dwill opts out I think they let them go unless the deal is really advantageous to sign for the knicks.

I see them supporting Gallo though with that offer sheet. He's played well for them and far too often they don't keep their youth and regret it. Also I doubt a team throws a crazy amount at him

I would keep Dwill, he is one of the few guys on this roster that can score

I'd like to keep DWill, but it won't be because he can score, rather keep guys who are getting better. This is what I keep asking myself, is DWill getting better or is he doing the same things as last year?

I agree. He is one of the guys that I have surprisingly started to buy into his potential and I definitely think that he much better than last year.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/7/2016  1:49 PM
mreinman wrote:
martin wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
wargames wrote:If AA or Dwill opts out I think they let them go unless the deal is really advantageous to sign for the knicks.

I see them supporting Gallo though with that offer sheet. He's played well for them and far too often they don't keep their youth and regret it. Also I doubt a team throws a crazy amount at him

I would keep Dwill, he is one of the few guys on this roster that can score

I'd like to keep DWill, but it won't be because he can score, rather keep guys who are getting better. This is what I keep asking myself, is DWill getting better or is he doing the same things as last year?

I agree. He is one of the guys that I have surprisingly started to buy into his potential and I definitely think that he much better than last year.

What do you like about him?

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3/7/2016  2:19 PM
martin wrote:
mreinman wrote:
martin wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
wargames wrote:If AA or Dwill opts out I think they let them go unless the deal is really advantageous to sign for the knicks.

I see them supporting Gallo though with that offer sheet. He's played well for them and far too often they don't keep their youth and regret it. Also I doubt a team throws a crazy amount at him

I would keep Dwill, he is one of the few guys on this roster that can score

I'd like to keep DWill, but it won't be because he can score, rather keep guys who are getting better. This is what I keep asking myself, is DWill getting better or is he doing the same things as last year?

I agree. He is one of the guys that I have surprisingly started to buy into his potential and I definitely think that he much better than last year.

What do you like about him?

In the beginning of the season he looked like one of the dumbest players in the league. When he was out there he was so scattered it looked like he did not even know which was the correct basket.

Now he has not turned into a genius but he seems to be getting it a lot faster than I expected him to with the way he started. It used to be that everytime he touched the ball you just knew something bad was going to happen. As the season wore on he started getting much more comfortable and making better and better reads.

Obviously the fact that he can get to the rim at will is what makes him the prospect that everyone went crazy over but the brain part was nowhere near developed.

His FTA% is off the charts.

He is a natural on the break.

His shooting %'s have really tanked in many areas just like many others who have moved over to the triangle. However, his 10-16 footer has really developed which I am sure that Phil loves ... He needs to be a much better shooter but his form looks ok.

I am not sure if I would stay if I was him since his value would be much better realized in a more modern / uptempo system, but I would definitely want to keep him over any of the other short termers.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/7/2016  3:15 PM
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knickscity wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
knickscity wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:If we finish the season strong it won't be for a chance at the playoffs cause that's not happening but it would be big for how free agents look at this team and for them having any thought about joining this team in the off season which is huge for us. We all including myself have been giving Afflalo hellz for his play but he showed us how good we can play with him playing like Melo's 2nd man which he was supposed to be and what he was playing like when we were winning. When he's hitting his 10/15 jumper and getting some boards we can compete and Rolo has really stepped his game up as well.

We can be a really good team with our front court of Melo/KP/Rolo and adding two players which we all know is a legit PG and SG and putting Afflalo at 6th man.


Afflalo is likely gonna opt out for a longer deal. I wouldn't be surprised if it's us giving it to him. I also see the Knicks matching whatever offer Galloway gets. That's a chunk of the cap space right there.

IF they offer AA more money phill needs to leave. Also, unless gallo sign's an early offer sheet then he will not take up any cap space. They can go over on Gallo. The real FA to worry about taking up cap space is Lance Thomas. His early bird rights only helps so much if he gets offered over the league's avg his money then comes of the cap space.


Gallo is likely to get an offer sheet very early. Everyone will have cap space, somebody is gonna test where the Knicks stand with him. the Afflalo part is tricky, but yes, I do think the Knicks resign him.

Funny - I don't care if we lose any of our FAs. Lance, Gallo - they're nice players, but their stats are inflated by playing on a bad team. Do any of them get time on GS? That is sort of the mental exercise I do - take a really good team, and say - do these players get any time?

Answer = No.

If they get offers, congratulate them on their new found wealth, and watch them promptly turn into Landry Fields.

Jeremy Lin, Chris Copeland, Novak, Shump.... I agree. Unless a guy really pops than I dont care. Its business. Guys come and go
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3/9/2016  11:17 AM
You know whats bad about posts like this or were just 4 guys away--it just gives false hope of where we are. We win one game at home after losing 17-21 and were all of a sudden going to win a majority of games on a road trip.

We lose badly to so called BAD teams. We dont get back on defense we CONSISTENTLY get outscored big in the paint--were down double digits in like 21/23 games and one guy is going to make things right. No--we sck. We need change. I dont think Phil gets it now.

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3/9/2016  3:25 PM
BRIGGS wrote:You know whats bad about posts like this or were just 4 guys away--it just gives false hope of where we are. We win one game at home after losing 17-21 and were all of a sudden going to win a majority of games on a road trip.

We lose badly to so called BAD teams. We dont get back on defense we CONSISTENTLY get outscored big in the paint--were down double digits in like 21/23 games and one guy is going to make things right. No--we sck. We need change. I dont think Phil gets it now.

You don't think Phil gets it because of one fan's post on UltimateKnicks.com?

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