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Would it be better for KP to be a 6th or 7th man for 2 years?
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blkexec
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3/6/2016  5:57 PM
dk7th wrote:
TLover wrote:Agree with you BRIGGS.

Porzingis will be starting in this for a long time. Why bring him off the bench and let him be the focal point of the offense for that 2nd unit.
He would be the go to scorer in the unit which will only help his development.
Porzingis will be a trancedent center in this league but he needs to develop a more consistent post up game. With Lopez at center, he's restricted to being a permeated player.

Dude is ONLY 20yrs old! Who cares if he comes off the bench for at least the rest of this season.
Melo is a top 5 PF in the nba. Who know you may have a future front line of Durant, Melo & Porzingis.
That would be insane!

Let's let D.Williams start and earn his next contract. And let's run the following 2nd unit on the floor for the remainder of this season:

Pg: Grant
Sg: Gallo
Sf: L.Thomas
Pf: O'Quinn
C: Porzingis

O'quinn's muscle will move people away & Grant can play pick & roll all day with Porzingis

so you would start:

lopez
williams
melo
afflalo
calderon

based on one game in which there was no discernible triangle offense being run, just basic pick snd roll and isolation? and against a .500 team with a mediocre backcourt?

basically scrap the triangle entirely?

Im the only one that wouldve started that unit b4 they played any games....Its a little late in the game now. ....Sometimes a late season demotion can do more harm.

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3/6/2016  6:02 PM
blkexec wrote:
dk7th wrote:
TLover wrote:Agree with you BRIGGS.

Porzingis will be starting in this for a long time. Why bring him off the bench and let him be the focal point of the offense for that 2nd unit.
He would be the go to scorer in the unit which will only help his development.
Porzingis will be a trancedent center in this league but he needs to develop a more consistent post up game. With Lopez at center, he's restricted to being a permeated player.

Dude is ONLY 20yrs old! Who cares if he comes off the bench for at least the rest of this season.
Melo is a top 5 PF in the nba. Who know you may have a future front line of Durant, Melo & Porzingis.
That would be insane!

Let's let D.Williams start and earn his next contract. And let's run the following 2nd unit on the floor for the remainder of this season:

Pg: Grant
Sg: Gallo
Sf: L.Thomas
Pf: O'Quinn
C: Porzingis

O'quinn's muscle will move people away & Grant can play pick & roll all day with Porzingis

so you would start:

lopez
williams
melo
afflalo
calderon

based on one game in which there was no discernible triangle offense being run, just basic pick snd roll and isolation? and against a .500 team with a mediocre backcourt?

basically scrap the triangle entirely?

Im the only one that wouldve started that unit b4 they played any games....Its a little late in the game now. ....Sometimes a late season demotion can do more harm.

i dunno... williams does not seem like a good fit in the triangle as a starter. abandoning the triangle or working the triangle with williams seems unrealistic no matter at the beginning middle or end of the season.

don't get me wrong, if i had my druthers i'd feature him in a fast break offense but that of course requires great defense creating turnovers. i don't see great defenders on our bench. but rambis has already said there's no sense in creating two separate units... instead he insists on trying to get the right rotations and sub patterns.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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3/6/2016  9:36 PM
In the beginning of the season D.Williams was playing well then his minutes went down. Let him start and have L.Thomas & Porzingis be the first 2 guys off the bench.

D.Williams & Afflolo have opt out clauses..give them burn so they can justify opting out, hence giving the Knicks more cap space.

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3/7/2016  10:51 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Where he comes in for either sub 5 or 4 and plays 26-32 minutes off the bench? If we do this maybe we can keep Carmelo and start him at 4 Lopez at 5 and start building the guard positions. We need a chemistry change with Melo KP and Lopez--I dont mind at all if KP comes off the bench--he and the team might be a prisoner of his own success too early.

We can also look at other ideas for 4 in a Melo trade if that is the avenue--but I think it might be in the best interest of both team and player if KP is 6 or 7th man.


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3/7/2016  10:59 AM
Be interesting to see what extended winning without KP would do to this team.

To dk7th's point, KP's been overutilized and now it's starting to take it's toll. He played 92 games in three years. Did anyone really expect someone at his size and frame to play 30mpg for a whole season?

Would it be better for KP to be a 6th or 7th man for 2 years?

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