GustavBahler wrote:With 5 seconds left in the game, if you needed someone to shake off a single or double team, starting from anywhere on the court to hit the winning shot, I would pick Melo. Stat would be limited as to where he could catch the ball to be effective, not Melo. He was money in those situations in his prime.

You dont remember Amare getting the ball at the elbow and doing whatever he wanted for a score? Maybe you are too young or liked soccer at the time? Just for record--Carmelo has been with the Knicks in NON playoff basketball for 5 years--how many big late game shots did he have when it really didnt matter anyway? Amare was carrying Lakers team against MONSTER C and PF of the west. I remember watching Amare right before he got hurt the first time and saying this guy cannot be stopped and he was only 22. And despite numerous devastating injuries he was still was good

GustavBahler wrote:With 5 seconds left in the game, if you needed someone to shake off a single or double team, starting from anywhere on the court to hit the winning shot, I would pick Melo. Stat would be limited as to where he could catch the ball to be effective, not Melo. He was money in those situations in his prime.

Melo was never a last-shot player under pressure n he still aint .. Back then the Denver GM Kiki traded for a player that could score under pressure named Allen Iverson

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:With 5 seconds left in the game, if you needed someone to shake off a single or double team, starting from anywhere on the court to hit the winning shot, I would pick Melo. Stat would be limited as to where he could catch the ball to be effective, not Melo. He was money in those situations in his prime.

Melo was never a last-shot player under pressure n he still aint .. Back then the Denver GM Kiki traded for a player that could score under pressure named Allen Iverson

Melo led the league in last second shot makes and last second shot percentage when he was in Denver. He's been bad in NY lately, but he was once thought of as the best last second shooter in the league.

Knixkik wrote:Amare was great in his prime, but was a sidekick. He was entering his true prime his first season in new york, and it got cut short. So Melo has had the better prime, and much longer prime which is still carrying on at age 31.

Amare was a star who went to 3 different WCF and Carmelo a really good player who did not have anywhere near the same impact especially when it counted.

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:With 5 seconds left in the game, if you needed someone to shake off a single or double team, starting from anywhere on the court to hit the winning shot, I would pick Melo. Stat would be limited as to where he could catch the ball to be effective, not Melo. He was money in those situations in his prime.

Melo was never a last-shot player under pressure n he still aint .. Back then the Denver GM Kiki traded for a player that could score under pressure named Allen Iverson

The statistics say otherwise, he was one of the best in the league for a stretch, look it up if you want.

crzymdups wrote:

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:With 5 seconds left in the game, if you needed someone to shake off a single or double team, starting from anywhere on the court to hit the winning shot, I would pick Melo. Stat would be limited as to where he could catch the ball to be effective, not Melo. He was money in those situations in his prime.

Melo was never a last-shot player under pressure n he still aint .. Back then the Denver GM Kiki traded for a player that could score under pressure named Allen Iverson

Melo led the league in last second shot makes and last second shot percentage when he was in Denver. He's been bad in NY lately, but he was once thought of as the best last second shooter in the league.

We all know in Melo prime .. Melo last shot shooting could never get pass the first round.
Amare Marion n Nash had the most exciting still talked (n argue) about series in the Western Conference Finals with the Spurs .. in Amare's prime.

Kemet wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:With 5 seconds left in the game, if you needed someone to shake off a single or double team, starting from anywhere on the court to hit the winning shot, I would pick Melo. Stat would be limited as to where he could catch the ball to be effective, not Melo. He was money in those situations in his prime.

Melo was never a last-shot player under pressure n he still aint .. Back then the Denver GM Kiki traded for a player that could score under pressure named Allen Iverson

Melo led the league in last second shot makes and last second shot percentage when he was in Denver. He's been bad in NY lately, but he was once thought of as the best last second shooter in the league.

We all know in Melo prime .. Melo last shot shooting could never get pass the first round.
Amare Marion n Nash had the most exciting still talked (n argue) about series in the Western Conference Finals with the Spurs .. in Amare's prime.

Amar'e was great. But he was never the best player on that team. Nash was.

I think the Western Conference series you're thinking of was a second round series - it was great and had the bogus suspensions and stuff.

No one is arguing that Suns team wasn't great. But Amar'e was not the engine of that team. That was Nash's creation. Nash and D'Antoni reinvented basketball in Phoenix. Amar'e was a huge part, but he was not the best player on that team.

When San Antonio altered their defense to take away Amar'e's roll in the pick and roll, Nash would go for 40+ points. It was his team.

Kemet wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Amare was great in his prime, but was a sidekick. He was entering his true prime his first season in new york, and it got cut short. So Melo has had the better prime, and much longer prime which is still carrying on at age 31.

Amare was a star who went to 3 different WCF and Carmelo a really good player who did not have anywhere near the same impact especially when it counted.

Steve Nash had a little something to do with that. Marion, too.

And Amar'e only played in two conference finals. Nash and Marion made it one year Amar'e was out.

Amare Nash n Grant Hill in WCF 2009-10

Yeah. And Amar'e got to one other conference final in 2005. The Suns made it in to the Western Conf. Finals without Amar'e in 2006 when Amar'e missed the entire season excpet for three games due to knee injury. Boris Diaw took Amar'e's role in the offense and was very good.

crzymdups wrote:

Kemet wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Kemet wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:With 5 seconds left in the game, if you needed someone to shake off a single or double team, starting from anywhere on the court to hit the winning shot, I would pick Melo. Stat would be limited as to where he could catch the ball to be effective, not Melo. He was money in those situations in his prime.

Melo was never a last-shot player under pressure n he still aint .. Back then the Denver GM Kiki traded for a player that could score under pressure named Allen Iverson

Melo led the league in last second shot makes and last second shot percentage when he was in Denver. He's been bad in NY lately, but he was once thought of as the best last second shooter in the league.

We all know in Melo prime .. Melo last shot shooting could never get pass the first round.
Amare Marion n Nash had the most exciting still talked (n argue) about series in the Western Conference Finals with the Spurs .. in Amare's prime.

Amar'e was great. But he was never the best player on that team. Nash was.

I think the Western Conference series you're thinking of was a second round series - it was great and had the bogus suspensions and stuff.

No one is arguing that Suns team wasn't great. But Amar'e was not the engine of that team. That was Nash's creation. Nash and D'Antoni reinvented basketball in Phoenix. Amar'e was a huge part, but he was not the best player on that team.

When San Antonio altered their defense to take away Amar'e's roll in the pick and roll, Nash would go for 40+ points. It was his team.

That was Marion team .. it was Marion system from teammate Jason Kidd fast tempo transition.
Nash played the role of Stocton, and Amare played the role of Karl Malone
And Marion kept everyone in position on offense/defense in a running system