Finestrg wrote:

martin wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Fuck Amare and his wine baths. Fuck the media baiting him into this conversation.

It's 2016. We have our own set of problems to deal with.

exactly

Disagree. I think STAT's comments are quite candid. I'd even say he handled it with some decorum, not naming Melo by name, saying he still cares about NY and hopes the situation improves for us soon etc. The gist here is that Melo isn't all he's cracked up to be as a player, leader and as a person. On top of that he's breaking down physically and his skills are declining, all while making top dollar along with this friggin' NTC. The situation's a mess and will only get worse. Look at his comments when we just brought up Jimmer -- calling him "Jimmy" and telling the reporter 'I thought you said we got someone?'. Come on man--was that necessary?? Is that the stuff you wanna hear out of our team leader? No, it isn't.. I feel I can speak out on this because I wanted him traded back during his FA tour. We needed to unload him then to the highest bidder. I bet Phil wishes he had that over again...And now Phil needs to sit down with him man to man and see if they can reach an accord about waiving the NTC and moving him to a place where he's comfortable. He needs to understand that that's in this team's best interest, not sticking it out because he doesn't want to be perceived as a quitter...Instead of saying Fuck STAT--tell us exactly which comments of his you had a problem with. Outside of opening his mouth and kicking us while we're down (should've taken the high road and not said anything), I think his comments are all pretty valid. Maybe that's why they sting so much.

Agree. The truth hurts. Sometimes you don't want to hear it, especially from an ex girlfriend, wife, coworker, teammate.

Instead of disregarding it and the source, maybe we should listen to the "message" for once.

The candid comment stings so much because it's all true, what's said.

anrst wrote:lots of talk lately about how, just like patrick, we will only appreciate what we have in Melo when he's gone.

seriously? we have sucked for every year but one with melo. I don't think i will miss the MElo era one iota. It's more similarly to the David Lee Jamal Crawford years than the Ewing years. And I don't miss Lee or Crawford at all.

Wait...Lee and Crawford are future Hall Of Famers? Blah haha.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

martin wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Fuck Amare and his wine baths. Fuck the media baiting him into this conversation.

It's 2016. We have our own set of problems to deal with.

exactly

Disagree. I think STAT's comments are quite candid. I'd even say he handled it with some decorum, not naming Melo by name, saying he still cares about NY and hopes the situation improves for us soon etc. The gist here is that Melo isn't all he's cracked up to be as a player, leader and as a person. On top of that he's breaking down physically and his skills are declining, all while making top dollar along with this friggin' NTC. The situation's a mess and will only get worse. Look at his comments when we just brought up Jimmer -- calling him "Jimmy" and telling the reporter 'I thought you said we got someone?'. Come on man--was that necessary?? Is that the stuff you wanna hear out of our team leader? No, it isn't.. I feel I can speak out on this because I wanted him traded back during his FA tour of different cities. We needed to unload him then to the highest bidder. And now Phil needs to sit down with him man to man and see if they can reach an accord about waiving the NTC and moving him to a place where he's comfortable. He needs to understand that that's in this team's best interest, not sticking it out because he doesn't want to be perceived as a quitter...Instead of saying Fuck STAT--tell us exactly which comments of his you had a problem with. Outside of opening his mouth and kicking us while we're down (should've taken the high road and not said anything), I think his comments are all pretty valid. Maybe that's why they sting so much.

So you thin Amare was not bitter because he was replaced as the Big name in NY. And BTW F Jimmy as well!! Nothing bit a dream. Failed everywhere he has been but now it's suppose to be different and everyone owes him a fifth chance? And who the hell would think Jimmer is a real name.

No, I don't think that at all. I think STAT broke down physically and it was hard for him to deal with, as it would be for any top player. Still through it all, I think he remained pretty positive--went down to work with Hakeem Olajuwon on his post game, embraced his role off the bench (he was quite productive off the bench for a good stretch there toward the end), embraced Jeremy Lin etc.. Look at moody Melo on the other hand -- did he ever truly embrace STAT as a co-pilot? Do everything he could've done both on and off the court to make that work? I have big-time doubts here...Did he have negative things to say about Iman Shumpert and KP when they were first drafted? Yes--one blatant on twitter, the other said to his confidants that got leaked. Did he embrace Jeremy Lin? Did he embrace Mike Woodson trying to draw up plays in the huddle or did he sulk and say "just gimmie the dam ball man"? This dude's always been a handful man, don't kid yourself. How 'bout the highly-respected Chauncey Billups basically confirming Melo has no leadership skills, that he needs leadership in place around him. Did he recruit one top player to come play here with him since he's been here? Pretty telling, no? I mean Greg Monroe chose Milwaukee over NYC and Melo. Heck, I don't even know if he got along well with Landry Fields--I remember sensing the two of them were at odds. How do you not get along with that kid? Goofy, nice kid...

As for Jimmer -- why the negativity, esp. given our situation (our backcourt is the pits)? What if he could help us? Why are you opposed to trying? F Jimmer?? Really? What'd he do to you? LOL. There's a possibility, however remote, that he could help this team. I really wanted to see him play for myself, then make a determination. Doesn't look like Rambis is gonna give him a shot--I think that's a mistake, a wasted opportunity. Look, when you're a team like SA, a well-oiled machine, you don't give a guy like Jimmer Fredette a shot at this point in the season, you waive a Ray McCallum for even more vet help, etc.. We're not in that situation by a mile. I'm interested in these types of players.

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CrushAlot wrote:^^^it might just be where Stat was led to by the media or the reaction to what was said by Stat. My bet is NYC is the only place that the press seeks Stat out for an interview at this point.

That's a good point. It may well be in reference to STAT.

arkrud wrote:Truth does not exist.
All we have is is a perception in our mind.
But reality is real and just in our face.
Knicks suck badly for the whole Melo tenure and he is the main piece of this failed organization.
The fact that other pieces contributed to the demise of once store franchise do not taking the blame out of Melo.
Melo FAILED but he continue to stick around the wreck.
That's why I give him a credit for accepting the suffering as an indulgence for his sins.

Accountability is more important than perception. Perception gets cloudy when losing. An organizations main job is to put together a set of players that are able to contribute at a high level. Take steps towards improvwment and have a consiatent system and personal in place. A players responsibility is to perform at his expected level and be consistent. Melo has done this except for injury year last year. Please explain how the organization, president, GM and ownership has been in the last 5 years. I'll point you to the level of talent both last year and this year? As for the inconsistent frame work during Melo's tenure. Please explain.

HofstraBBall wrote:

arkrud wrote:Truth does not exist.
All we have is is a perception in our mind.
But reality is real and just in our face.
Knicks suck badly for the whole Melo tenure and he is the main piece of this failed organization.
The fact that other pieces contributed to the demise of once store franchise do not taking the blame out of Melo.
Melo FAILED but he continue to stick around the wreck.
That's why I give him a credit for accepting the suffering as an indulgence for his sins.

Accountability is more important than perception. Perception gets cloudy when losing. An organizations main job is to put together a set of players that are able to contribute at a high level. Take steps towards improvwment and have a consiatent system and personal in place. A players responsibility is to perform at his expected level and be consistent. Melo has done this except for injury year last year. Please explain how the organization, president, GM and ownership has been in the last 5 years. I'll point you to the level of talent both last year and this year? As for the inconsistent frame work during Melo's tenure. Please explain.

You are implying that Melo had no choices to make.
That he is innocent victim of evil Dolan and MSG clusterfack.
That this is not on him in getting traded to NY for the price that stripped the franchise from any assets needed for normal development.
That this is not on him to resign with the team for max with NTC to make sure the club will suck for the rest of his active NBA time.
That this is not on him to not adjust his game to team concept from hero/ISO ball until he realized that he cannot do it himself any more.
That this is not on him to undercut coaches authority and drive players out of town with any glimpse of overshadowing a little part of his statue.
No matter what was done the realty shows that he FAILED personally and as a part of authoritarian MSG entertainment machine to produce winning sport club.
They managed to transfer legend into mockery and earn millions in the process on fans expense.
Now I want him to stay in NY all the way and pay the mental bill which is due.

crzymdups wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:^^^it might just be where Stat was led to by the media or the reaction to what was said by Stat. My bet is NYC is the only place that the press seeks Stat out for an interview at this point.

That's a good point. It may well be in reference to STAT.

All of his instagram posts are in reference to Amare.

arkrud wrote:Truth does not exist.
All we have is is a perception in our mind.
But reality is real and just in our face.
Knicks suck badly for the whole Melo tenure and he is the main piece of this failed organization.
The fact that other pieces contributed to the demise of once store franchise do not taking the blame out of Melo.
Melo FAILED but he continue to stick around the wreck.
That's why I give him a credit for accepting the suffering as an indulgence for his sins.

Truth does not exist but reality is just in our face.
Check.

Remedial reading class is great thing for you to be possibly of looking into of.
Either that, or sober up before posting.

Review our W/L for the years immediately before Melo. Count how many times we went to the playoffs.
Then when that reality sinks in, come back and post some more.

jrodmc wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

arkrud wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

arkrud wrote:Truth does not exist.
All we have is is a perception in our mind.
But reality is real and just in our face.
Knicks suck badly for the whole Melo tenure and he is the main piece of this failed organization.
The fact that other pieces contributed to the demise of once store franchise do not taking the blame out of Melo.
Melo FAILED but he continue to stick around the wreck.
That's why I give him a credit for accepting the suffering as an indulgence for his sins.

Truth does not exist but reality is just in our face.
Check.

Remedial reading class is great thing for you to be possibly of looking into of.
Either that, or sober up before posting.

Review our W/L for the years immediately before Melo. Count how many times we went to the playoffs.
Then when that reality sinks in, come back and post some more.

I never said that we were better before Melo came over.
We were actually same - entertaining freak show.
Melo came over... and changed nothing... but cost a lot.

As per my writing if you have brains you can get what I am writing about.
Unless you have an agenga to change the subject from Melo to my writing skills...
The Internet sport forum is not a spelling exercise.
I speak and write English only from 33 years old... so will never be good in this.