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2/19/2016  2:18 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I wonder how people would feel about Melo staying around if the Knicks were to somehow add Conley this summer and Durant the next?
are you saying melo is a big attraction to free agents? Im not saying you are wrong but im just wondering why that wasnt the case this past summer

The cba is set up for stars to stay with their teams. The Knicks did have second tier type free agents say they wanted to come here. I don't think that happens last summer without Melo. No one knew Kristaps would be this good this soon.
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2/19/2016  2:20 PM
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I wonder how people would feel about Melo staying around if the Knicks were to somehow add Conley this summer and Durant the next?
are you saying melo is a big attraction to free agents? Im not saying you are wrong but im just wondering why that wasnt the case this past summer

Seems like Rolo and Afflalo wanted to play with Melo.

Which free agent was out there last summer that you would've wanted?

Taking out of the equation the ridiculous RFA's people thought we had a chance at (we didn't have a chance at any RFA, as Orlando demonstrated - even if you don't want the guy like Tobias Harris, you sign him and trade him for assets later) - there was no chance Draymond Green was coming here as an RFA off a championship as some people here suggested. Or that Chicago would let Jimmy Butler go, as some people here suggested.

Porzingis is the bigger attraction IMO.

Agree completely. But Melo playing well and sharing the ball is also an attraction.

yeah it seems like every bigtime player has praised KP so he will no doubt attract big free agents, its nice for a change
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2/19/2016  2:20 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Rookie wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I wonder how people would feel about Melo staying around if the Knicks were to somehow add Conley this summer and Durant the next?

I don't think you have to look much further then Rondo's recent comments to get a read on how guards view playing in the triangle. Knicks are going to have a hard time signing UFA's and should probably look to buy a late 1st and early 2nd rd pick to solve their guard depth problems. Guards in that range will have their flaws (like they can't shoot), but we will probably need to build a PG from within. I am definitely not giving up on Grant, we really need him to take the next step. I am looking forward to the 2017 draft. Knicks should maintain their cap flexibility and spend a few years building through the draft. If Melo wants to stick around for that, well then good on ya' bro.

Rondo hates systems, he wants to be free-wheeling. Conley has played in a system with the Grizzlies. I think it'll be greatly dependent on the guard and their individual personality. I think it is sort of nuts to put Rondo and Conley in the same box as people. They're wildly different personalities.

I put him in the category of another PG who isn't enamored with playing in the triangle. Personality has nothing to do with it. We are the only team in the league running the triangle. Other teams incorporate some triangle basics with success, but do not strictly adhere to it. The triangle offense is not really a good selling point to FA's especially since we can't point to any success our guards have had running it.

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2/19/2016  2:28 PM
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Knixkik wrote:Conley would improve the team dramatically.
he would. Only a fool would suggest otherwise. The trap to avoid is paying a guy what he is worth to YOU, rather than he is worth PERIOD. Knicks really need him... is he a max player? We really giving him what Melo is being paid? Yikes... but damn if we dont need him

I agree and i will not complain about what we pay him (if we get him.) First of all, its not my money, and some people complain about what a player is worth like it's their money. Ok, i get the counter-argument, it's money against the cap that if used correctly can be spread out and go much further. But with the cap increasing every season for the foreseeable future, i don't think that is an issue.

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2/19/2016  2:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2016  2:29 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I wonder how people would feel about Melo staying around if the Knicks were to somehow add Conley this summer and Durant the next?
are you saying melo is a big attraction to free agents? Im not saying you are wrong but im just wondering why that wasnt the case this past summer

Seems like Rolo and Afflalo wanted to play with Melo.

Which free agent was out there last summer that you would've wanted?

Taking out of the equation the ridiculous RFA's people thought we had a chance at (we didn't have a chance at any RFA, as Orlando demonstrated - even if you don't want the guy like Tobias Harris, you sign him and trade him for assets later) - there was no chance Draymond Green was coming here as an RFA off a championship as some people here suggested. Or that Chicago would let Jimmy Butler go, as some people here suggested.

Porzingis is the bigger attraction IMO.

Agree completely. But Melo playing well and sharing the ball is also an attraction.

yeah it seems like every bigtime player has praised KP so he will no doubt attract big free agents, its nice for a change

yeah but the triangle literally diminish's shot attempts and assist from the pg position, that can't be attractive

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2/19/2016  2:34 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I wonder how people would feel about Melo staying around if the Knicks were to somehow add Conley this summer and Durant the next?
are you saying melo is a big attraction to free agents? Im not saying you are wrong but im just wondering why that wasnt the case this past summer

Seems like Rolo and Afflalo wanted to play with Melo.

Which free agent was out there last summer that you would've wanted?

Taking out of the equation the ridiculous RFA's people thought we had a chance at (we didn't have a chance at any RFA, as Orlando demonstrated - even if you don't want the guy like Tobias Harris, you sign him and trade him for assets later) - there was no chance Draymond Green was coming here as an RFA off a championship as some people here suggested. Or that Chicago would let Jimmy Butler go, as some people here suggested.

Porzingis is the bigger attraction IMO.

Agree completely. But Melo playing well and sharing the ball is also an attraction.

yeah it seems like every bigtime player has praised KP so he will no doubt attract big free agents, its nice for a change

yeah but the triangle literally diminish's shot attempts and assist from the pg position, that can't be attractive

Exactly. If I had to list a triangle PG who averaged over 10pts, 3 assts per game I couldn't including Phil's Laker and Bulls teams. I couldn't name one that was a star player, had their own sneaker or TV commercial either. And certainly, none of them were one of the highest paid players on their team. I can't think of any that had an All star appearance. How is that an attractive stat to guards who are building their brand in todays world of the NBA.

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2/19/2016  2:39 PM
There is an old saying:

"Sometimes you win by not losing" Knicks don't make a bad deal. There was not a good deal for us.

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2/19/2016  2:42 PM
Rookie wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I wonder how people would feel about Melo staying around if the Knicks were to somehow add Conley this summer and Durant the next?
are you saying melo is a big attraction to free agents? Im not saying you are wrong but im just wondering why that wasnt the case this past summer

Seems like Rolo and Afflalo wanted to play with Melo.

Which free agent was out there last summer that you would've wanted?

Taking out of the equation the ridiculous RFA's people thought we had a chance at (we didn't have a chance at any RFA, as Orlando demonstrated - even if you don't want the guy like Tobias Harris, you sign him and trade him for assets later) - there was no chance Draymond Green was coming here as an RFA off a championship as some people here suggested. Or that Chicago would let Jimmy Butler go, as some people here suggested.

Porzingis is the bigger attraction IMO.

Agree completely. But Melo playing well and sharing the ball is also an attraction.

yeah it seems like every bigtime player has praised KP so he will no doubt attract big free agents, its nice for a change

yeah but the triangle literally diminish's shot attempts and assist from the pg position, that can't be attractive

Exactly. If I had to list a triangle PG who averaged over 10pts, 3 assts per game I couldn't including Phil's Laker and Bulls teams. I couldn't name one that was a star player, had their own sneaker or TV commercial either. And certainly, none of them were one of the highest paid players on their team. I can't think of any that had an All star appearance. How is that an attractive stat to guards who are building their brand in todays world of the NBA.

You get a coach like Luke Walton who says "yeah, I run the Triangle, but I also helped design the offense that got Steph Curry two MVPs in a row."

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2/19/2016  2:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2016  2:52 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Rookie wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:I wonder how people would feel about Melo staying around if the Knicks were to somehow add Conley this summer and Durant the next?
are you saying melo is a big attraction to free agents? Im not saying you are wrong but im just wondering why that wasnt the case this past summer

Seems like Rolo and Afflalo wanted to play with Melo.

Which free agent was out there last summer that you would've wanted?

Taking out of the equation the ridiculous RFA's people thought we had a chance at (we didn't have a chance at any RFA, as Orlando demonstrated - even if you don't want the guy like Tobias Harris, you sign him and trade him for assets later) - there was no chance Draymond Green was coming here as an RFA off a championship as some people here suggested. Or that Chicago would let Jimmy Butler go, as some people here suggested.

Porzingis is the bigger attraction IMO.

Agree completely. But Melo playing well and sharing the ball is also an attraction.

yeah it seems like every bigtime player has praised KP so he will no doubt attract big free agents, its nice for a change

yeah but the triangle literally diminish's shot attempts and assist from the pg position, that can't be attractive

Exactly. If I had to list a triangle PG who averaged over 10pts, 3 assts per game I couldn't including Phil's Laker and Bulls teams. I couldn't name one that was a star player, had their own sneaker or TV commercial either. And certainly, none of them were one of the highest paid players on their team. I can't think of any that had an All star appearance. How is that an attractive stat to guards who are building their brand in todays world of the NBA.

You get a coach like Luke Walton who says "yeah, I run the Triangle, but I also helped design the offense that got Steph Curry two MVPs in a row."

Please do let me know when you return from your trip to fantasy island I hardly think Luke Walton turns Conley into Curry or water into wine.

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2/19/2016  3:12 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:B.Windhorst just said on espn that the Knicks were winners at the trade deadline not only because they didn't make any moves that would of hurt them by trading draft picks but because Memphis is clearly going to be rebuilding and he doesn't think M.Conley will want to stick around for a rebuild. So again.....is Conley that missing piece the Knicks need in the off Season??

Why do we want Mike Conley? He is an average starting PG

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2/19/2016  3:21 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
newyorker4ever wrote:B.Windhorst just said on espn that the Knicks were winners at the trade deadline not only because they didn't make any moves that would of hurt them by trading draft picks but because Memphis is clearly going to be rebuilding and he doesn't think M.Conley will want to stick around for a rebuild. So again.....is Conley that missing piece the Knicks need in the off Season??

Why do we want Mike Conley? He is an average starting PG

at best, dude is shooting 42% from the field, and 32% from downtown, and you think he's going to get maxed out. I would like to see the dumb ass GM who signs him for more than AA money

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