callmened wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

EnySpree wrote:He's not a ****ing point guard. Good player yes, point guard no. The next Steph Curry? Bruh?

I think you need to watching Mich State a few times and realize who their primary ballhandler play maker is--its Valentine. Hes a guard and hes their playmaker and primary shot maker. I think Valentine and Felder are the two best passers in this potential draft group--they both have special skills and out of this world basketball IQ. I want to open up the floor and make room for Porzingis and if we keep Lopez--take pressure off of Carmelo and we can do that by extending the floor of play--having guards who can extend with range create with speed who adhere to great team ball movement. GS is great because they are the best passing team. Thats what I see in these two players.

I agree with you Briggs he is a perfect fit, Knicks need to get him underrated player

can you tell me how good sir?!?!?

Well I dont think he is Steph Curry

However, it appears senior guard Denzel Valentine could see time as point guard this fall as well. Valentine played significant minutes at point guard during MSU’s three-game Italy tour, and head coach Tom Izzo was impressed by what he saw.

"I thought Valentine was really good the first two games," Izzo said. "I mean, really, really good. He made shots, he ran the point, he made passes, he made plays, he wanted to guard the best people. He really played good."

It wasn't a new experience for Valentine, who played point guard in high school and has looked comfortable as a passer and ball handler during his three years at MSU.

"It was different," Valentine said about playing point guard in Italy. "I played a lot of minutes at point guard, I played wing, I played everything. Especially point. I gained a lot of experience running it and learning the team. I had to do different things and get those guys in order and call plays and bring the bring ball up the floor and turn around and guard, so it was different."

"I played point guard in high school four years," he said. "Went off a little bit for three years. I’m pretty natural at it, I can pick things up. The biggest thing, I just have to be able to guard a point guard and be in game shape to push it the whole game."

"It’s been great because he has a great feel for the game," Nairn said. "He sees everything on the floor and it helps me a lot when we’re in the game together and just both of us are able to make plays for each other and make plays for everybody else."

But after point guard Travis Trice graduated last spring, Valentine became Michigan State’s chief playmaker.

Valentine stepped into the new and expanded role magnificently. He’s averaging a career-high usage rate of 28 percent, 8.4 assists per 40 minutes and a career-best assist-to-turnover ratio of 2.5. Spartans assistant coach Dan Fife explained the progression to Jeff Eisenberg of Yahoo Sports:

He had a great feel for the game (as an underclassman), but he was too erratic and he would make silly plays. Coach Izzo has done a great job of curtailing that without causing Denzel to lose any of his creativity. He hasn’t lost who he is, but he now understands some of those plays were hurting himself and hurting the team.

While he’s still prone to over-ambitious passing attempts, Valentine does a better job picking his spots and making calculated gambles. His timing is much better

callmened wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

callmened wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

EnySpree wrote:He's not a ****ing point guard. Good player yes, point guard no. The next Steph Curry? Bruh?

I think you need to watching Mich State a few times and realize who their primary ballhandler play maker is--its Valentine. Hes a guard and hes their playmaker and primary shot maker. I think Valentine and Felder are the two best passers in this potential draft group--they both have special skills and out of this world basketball IQ. I want to open up the floor and make room for Porzingis and if we keep Lopez--take pressure off of Carmelo and we can do that by extending the floor of play--having guards who can extend with range create with speed who adhere to great team ball movement. GS is great because they are the best passing team. Thats what I see in these two players.

I agree with you Briggs he is a perfect fit, Knicks need to get him underrated player

can you tell me how good sir?!?!?

Well I dont think he is Steph Curry

hhahahahaha lol...hes NO WHERE CLOSE to curry. thats foolish

i guess the statement came out wrong....can you tell me how (we can acquire valentine) - good sir? thats what the question was to BRIGGS

lol

How can we acquire felder and Valentine--well we had nothing last yera and got picks 18 and 33

BRIGGS wrote:From The State News,

However, it appears senior guard Denzel Valentine could see time as point guard this fall as well. Valentine played significant minutes at point guard during MSU’s three-game Italy tour, and head coach Tom Izzo was impressed by what he saw.

"I thought Valentine was really good the first two games," Izzo said. "I mean, really, really good. He made shots, he ran the point, he made passes, he made plays, he wanted to guard the best people. He really played good."

It wasn't a new experience for Valentine, who played point guard in high school and has looked comfortable as a passer and ball handler during his three years at MSU.

"It was different," Valentine said about playing point guard in Italy. "I played a lot of minutes at point guard, I played wing, I played everything. Especially point. I gained a lot of experience running it and learning the team. I had to do different things and get those guys in order and call plays and bring the bring ball up the floor and turn around and guard, so it was different."

"I played point guard in high school four years," he said. "Went off a little bit for three years. I’m pretty natural at it, I can pick things up. The biggest thing, I just have to be able to guard a point guard and be in game shape to push it the whole game."

"It’s been great because he has a great feel for the game," Nairn said. "He sees everything on the floor and it helps me a lot when we’re in the game together and just both of us are able to make plays for each other and make plays for everybody else."

But after point guard Travis Trice graduated last spring, Valentine became Michigan State’s chief playmaker.

Valentine stepped into the new and expanded role magnificently. He’s averaging a career-high usage rate of 28 percent, 8.4 assists per 40 minutes and a career-best assist-to-turnover ratio of 2.5. Spartans assistant coach Dan Fife explained the progression to Jeff Eisenberg of Yahoo Sports:

He had a great feel for the game (as an underclassman), but he was too erratic and he would make silly plays. Coach Izzo has done a great job of curtailing that without causing Denzel to lose any of his creativity. He hasn’t lost who he is, but he now understands some of those plays were hurting himself and hurting the team.

While he’s still prone to over-ambitious passing attempts, Valentine does a better job picking his spots and making calculated gambles. His timing is much better