Clean wrote:I actually would rather Melo stay. When I said I loved this new Melo in the past I was not kidding. I just wish his knee was more healthy. At the start of this season I knew he would not be fully healthy until next year anyway. This same thing happened to JR Smith after he had the same surgery. JR played the following year but he was not fully healthy until 2 years after the surgery.

good point..

But we could have jordan at 32 yrs old and some people would still be coming up with trade ideas talking about he's getting old.

Why on earth would you put a bunch of young talent around KP so he could end up like Okafor, wiggins, russell, kyrie, ect...

Finestrg wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:LaLa probably said "There's no fing way Im going to Cleveland." She should be number 2 on the power chart.

LaLa very well could shoot the Cleveland thing down right away. Good point. Very plausible. If I had to guess--I really think it'll wind up being something with the Clippers eventually. Everything seems to fit better with him going there -- we trade him out of the conference, he joins his buddy Paul on a good team (the 2 main things he's looking for), they may wish to move on from Griffin now after he punched out the employee, LaLa couldn't possibly complain about sunny Los Angeles..

knicks1248 wrote:

Clean wrote:I actually would rather Melo stay. When I said I loved this new Melo in the past I was not kidding. I just wish his knee was more healthy. At the start of this season I knew he would not be fully healthy until next year anyway. This same thing happened to JR Smith after he had the same surgery. JR played the following year but he was not fully healthy until 2 years after the surgery.

good point..

But we could have jordan at 32 yrs old and some people would still be coming up with trade ideas talking about he's getting old.

Why on earth would you put a bunch of young talent around KP so he could end up like Okafor, wiggins, russell, kyrie, ect...

knicks1248 wrote:

Clean wrote:I actually would rather Melo stay. When I said I loved this new Melo in the past I was not kidding. I just wish his knee was more healthy. At the start of this season I knew he would not be fully healthy until next year anyway. This same thing happened to JR Smith after he had the same surgery. JR played the following year but he was not fully healthy until 2 years after the surgery.

good point..

But we could have jordan at 32 yrs old and some people would still be coming up with trade ideas talking about he's getting old.

Why on earth would you put a bunch of young talent around KP so he could end up like Okafor, wiggins, russell, kyrie, ect...

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:LaLa probably said "There's no fing way Im going to Cleveland." She should be number 2 on the power chart.

LaLa very well could shoot the Cleveland thing down right away. Good point. Very plausible. If I had to guess--I really think it'll wind up being something with the Clippers eventually. Everything seems to fit better with him going there -- we trade him out of the conference, he joins his buddy Paul on a good team (the 2 main things he's looking for), they may wish to move on from Griffin now after he punched out the employee, LaLa couldn't possibly complain about sunny Los Angeles..

You guys are finding everything you can to throw the blame at but the reality is that Melo wants to be here in New York playing for the Knicks so i'm not sure how anyone can get mad a star player actually wanting to be here. I'm hoping that his reasoning for wanting to stay is not only that he just loves being here but he has some info from another player or players that have maybe told him that he or they wanna play with him and KP with the Knicks. I'm either way on this though with trading him or him staying. I'd much rather he stayed and we get that 3rd player this off season to come play with us. I don't agree with everyone that says he's breaking down at all. I think he'll be just as good a player in 3 years that he is now. He was told by the doctor that he would have pain in his knee this year and that it's normal for that to happen and i think he'll be just fine next year.

TOTALLY AGREE! Of course if Melo felt he wanted to move on then I wouldn't be mad, but his wanting to stay is also a very endearing quality. Melo and KP are already in place and really we're looking for that guard who can make it all come together. That's not an impossible task even if it's been frustrating to deal with this season. Melo seems willing to wait and give Phil a chance to find the help the team needs. I have no problem with that.

Last two posters need to pump the brakes on your little act. Heard nothing but ra ra ra from you two every time Fisher's name came up this season, couldnt say a GD thing about Fisher without one of you chiming in, telling everyone how unfair we were to him. No one was unfair to Fisher, and no one in that exchange you two just chimed in on was being unfair to Melo. We were talking about possible scenarios, stop using them as opportunities to score cheap points. The Fisher fiasco was enough for this season.

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:LaLa probably said "There's no fing way Im going to Cleveland." She should be number 2 on the power chart.

LaLa very well could shoot the Cleveland thing down right away. Good point. Very plausible. If I had to guess--I really think it'll wind up being something with the Clippers eventually. Everything seems to fit better with him going there -- we trade him out of the conference, he joins his buddy Paul on a good team (the 2 main things he's looking for), they may wish to move on from Griffin now after he punched out the employee, LaLa couldn't possibly complain about sunny Los Angeles..

You guys are finding everything you can to throw the blame at but the reality is that Melo wants to be here in New York playing for the Knicks so i'm not sure how anyone can get mad a star player actually wanting to be here. I'm hoping that his reasoning for wanting to stay is not only that he just loves being here but he has some info from another player or players that have maybe told him that he or they wanna play with him and KP with the Knicks. I'm either way on this though with trading him or him staying. I'd much rather he stayed and we get that 3rd player this off season to come play with us. I don't agree with everyone that says he's breaking down at all. I think he'll be just as good a player in 3 years that he is now. He was told by the doctor that he would have pain in his knee this year and that it's normal for that to happen and i think he'll be just fine next year.

TOTALLY AGREE! Of course if Melo felt he wanted to move on then I wouldn't be mad, but his wanting to stay is also a very endearing quality. Melo and KP are already in place and really we're looking for that guard who can make it all come together. That's not an impossible task even if it's been frustrating to deal with this season. Melo seems willing to wait and give Phil a chance to find the help the team needs. I have no problem with that.

Last two posters need to pump the brakes on your little act. Heard nothing but ra ra ra from you two every time Fisher's name came up this season, couldnt say a GD thing about Fisher without one of you chiming in, telling everyone how unfair we were to him. No one was unfair to Fisher, and no one in that exchange you two just chimed in on was being unfair to Melo. We were talking about possible scenarios, stop using them as opportunities to score cheap points. The Fisher fiasco was enough for this season.

Have to say your take on comments about Fish are not accurate. No one was ever saying Fish was some good coach. The larger point was that he was still learning and also that ALL of the failings of the team were NOT FISHERS FAULT. Now you can try and make it sound like people were saying he did a great job all the time but no one was saying much when the team was playing well and had reached .500 and looking like they were on the rise. Much of what is wrong with the team is roster based. Injuries played a huge part on the recent losing as well. So basically you can go kick rocks on your statements above.

Will just say BS. Wont start using caps, and throwing out apostrophes like candy, or questioning posters ability to think, like you normally do with anyone who disagrees.

You said almost everything wasn't Fisher's fault, the rotations, the tactics, almost nothing. Thats a nice bit of revisionist history there. You try to drown out dissenting opinions in a sea of positivity. Sounds great on its face, but more often than not you arent listening to the criticism, just flacking. Its why I had to repeatedly keep bolding out passages that you chose to pretend I didnt say to bolster your point.

Back to Melo. The funny thing is that some of the biggest Melo defenders on this board these days (like you) spent entire seasons trashing him. Not games mind you, seasons. So when I hear about how Im being unfair to Melo, I have to call BS.

Anthony’s comments Friday were a departure from his remark during training camp: “I’m here to stay.’’

He did reiterate Saturday that he is not ready to waive his no-trade clause.

“Not at this point,’’ Anthony said. “I dealt with that [Friday]. My answer and my feeling don’t change in 24 hours. So not at this point. I’m not even thinking about that.’’

Anthony explained why he wanted to stick it out.

“Doing it in New York is better than doing it any place in the world,’’ Anthony said. “One in New York is better than multiple somewhere else. That was the reason I wanted to come to New York. That’s the reason I’m in New York. It just bothers me when I start hearing all these trade rumors. Nobody has talked to me. I don’t know where it comes from. Sometimes it gets to you. As a player you get tired of hearing something all the time.

“Yeah, I don’t want to run. I could have run somewhere when I was a free agent. I came back for a reason. I don’t feel like I got to keep expressing that part of why I came back to New York.’’

Though the Knicks are not discussing any three-team deal that would send Melo to Cleveland, deal, Anthony said he is glad he has the clause. He also has a 15 percent trade kicker, meaning the Knicks would have to pay him a multi-million-dollar bonus if they dealt him.

“That was something my agent really talked about,’’ Anthony said. “Knowing how few people had that, that was a big part of signing that contract. It’s security at the end of the day. You never know what could possibly happen or what it can do. All players would want that.”

Anthony still is trying to lure a star to New York and Kevin Durant — maybe even James — will be a free agent this summer.

“Of course. I say why not come with me,’’ Anthony said. “When I say playing with stars, that’s conversations. Everybody has those conversations. Guys that are in my circle have those conversations. On the Olympic team, guys have those conversations — 90 percent of the time it never happens. The Miami thing came into fruition, but it took a lot. That’s just dreams and wishes.’’

Anthony was voted this weekend as VP of the Players Association as the new collective bargaining agreement has an opt-out clause upcoming. He said in the new CBA, he may push for more players to have no-trade clauses.

“That was a special moment for me, my peers voted for me,’’ Anthony said. “That meant more to me than someone else voting for me. That would be very helpful. Guys are waiting for me to get on as VP so they can start giving me things they want to happen.’’

ohhhh kay..lol

Trade kicker, hmm, thats an extra 2 to 4 mill if you trade him, meaning his 25 mill becomes 28 at the min..

Now can we focus on who we need to bring in to complement him and KP

nixluva wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:LaLa probably said "There's no fing way Im going to Cleveland." She should be number 2 on the power chart.

LaLa very well could shoot the Cleveland thing down right away. Good point. Very plausible. If I had to guess--I really think it'll wind up being something with the Clippers eventually. Everything seems to fit better with him going there -- we trade him out of the conference, he joins his buddy Paul on a good team (the 2 main things he's looking for), they may wish to move on from Griffin now after he punched out the employee, LaLa couldn't possibly complain about sunny Los Angeles..

You guys are finding everything you can to throw the blame at but the reality is that Melo wants to be here in New York playing for the Knicks so i'm not sure how anyone can get mad a star player actually wanting to be here. I'm hoping that his reasoning for wanting to stay is not only that he just loves being here but he has some info from another player or players that have maybe told him that he or they wanna play with him and KP with the Knicks. I'm either way on this though with trading him or him staying. I'd much rather he stayed and we get that 3rd player this off season to come play with us. I don't agree with everyone that says he's breaking down at all. I think he'll be just as good a player in 3 years that he is now. He was told by the doctor that he would have pain in his knee this year and that it's normal for that to happen and i think he'll be just fine next year.

TOTALLY AGREE! Of course if Melo felt he wanted to move on then I wouldn't be mad, but his wanting to stay is also a very endearing quality. Melo and KP are already in place and really we're looking for that guard who can make it all come together. That's not an impossible task even if it's been frustrating to deal with this season. Melo seems willing to wait and give Phil a chance to find the help the team needs. I have no problem with that.

How can you get mad at anyone that wants to be here and wants to be a New York Knick?? Melo isn't some dummy, he knows that we're still far away from being a team ready to contend for any deep playoff runs or championship runs but he still wants to be here and go through the pains of getting to that next level so you can't hate on that no matter how badly you want him traded.

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:LaLa probably said "There's no fing way Im going to Cleveland." She should be number 2 on the power chart.

LaLa very well could shoot the Cleveland thing down right away. Good point. Very plausible. If I had to guess--I really think it'll wind up being something with the Clippers eventually. Everything seems to fit better with him going there -- we trade him out of the conference, he joins his buddy Paul on a good team (the 2 main things he's looking for), they may wish to move on from Griffin now after he punched out the employee, LaLa couldn't possibly complain about sunny Los Angeles..

You guys are finding everything you can to throw the blame at but the reality is that Melo wants to be here in New York playing for the Knicks so i'm not sure how anyone can get mad a star player actually wanting to be here. I'm hoping that his reasoning for wanting to stay is not only that he just loves being here but he has some info from another player or players that have maybe told him that he or they wanna play with him and KP with the Knicks. I'm either way on this though with trading him or him staying. I'd much rather he stayed and we get that 3rd player this off season to come play with us. I don't agree with everyone that says he's breaking down at all. I think he'll be just as good a player in 3 years that he is now. He was told by the doctor that he would have pain in his knee this year and that it's normal for that to happen and i think he'll be just fine next year.

TOTALLY AGREE! Of course if Melo felt he wanted to move on then I wouldn't be mad, but his wanting to stay is also a very endearing quality. Melo and KP are already in place and really we're looking for that guard who can make it all come together. That's not an impossible task even if it's been frustrating to deal with this season. Melo seems willing to wait and give Phil a chance to find the help the team needs. I have no problem with that.

Last two posters need to pump the brakes on your little act. Heard nothing but ra ra ra from you two every time Fisher's name came up this season, couldnt say a GD thing about Fisher without one of you chiming in, telling everyone how unfair we were to him. No one was unfair to Fisher, and no one in that exchange you two just chimed in on was being unfair to Melo. We were talking about possible scenarios, stop using them as opportunities to score cheap points. The Fisher fiasco was enough for this season.

Have to say your take on comments about Fish are not accurate. No one was ever saying Fish was some good coach. The larger point was that he was still learning and also that ALL of the failings of the team were NOT FISHERS FAULT. Now you can try and make it sound like people were saying he did a great job all the time but no one was saying much when the team was playing well and had reached .500 and looking like they were on the rise. Much of what is wrong with the team is roster based. Injuries played a huge part on the recent losing as well. So basically you can go kick rocks on your statements above.