NYKBocker wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Still, sometimes culture influences behavior inside organizations. Think Fisher never saw Phil Jackson bolting town to see Jeanie Buss? As one member of the Knicks organization wondered, "Where would [Fisher] get the idea that it was OK to fly to California on an off day to see your girlfriend?"

Also this strikes me as a bad sign. And maybe that Phil isn't working. Someone INSIDE the Knicks is cracking about Phil going to CA to visit his lady all the time. Essentially someone on the Knicks is calling Phil a hypocrit. (and they're not wrong.) There is dischord in MSG. As always.

Being a head coach and the team president is different. You can't miss a practice when you are the head coach.

Jmpasq wrote:Everyone is jumping on Phil but the team owned 1 draft pick in his first 3 years here. How they hell can you rebuild like that? You have a legit complaint about not getting enough for Chandler but Felton was in that deal, and no one wanted him. Greg Monroe not signing is a legit complaint but every other big name FA was never coming here.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:Everyone is jumping on Phil but the team owned 1 draft pick in his first 3 years here. How they hell can you rebuild like that? You have a legit complaint about not getting enough for Chandler but Felton was in that deal, and no one wanted him. Greg Monroe not signing is a legit complaint but every other big name FA was never coming here.

That's fair. The one good thing about Phil is that he values the draft. However for the type of money he is making and his supposed track record he hasn't exactly done well brining talent in besides KP. With all the cap space he had he wasn't able to reel in any big free agent which is a bit telling.

Which one got away that you wanted. Monroe at max money?

Could be a blessing in disguise.

Melo re-signs. That was a big must from Dolan's perspective.

He has replaced Chandler with Lopez - clearly if you watch the two today you rather have Lopez.
He has replaced Bargnani with Porzingis - again clear massive upgrade.
Melo is still with us, though Phil inherited a Melo now on physical decline even though he has become a better leader.
He has replaced JR Smith with Afflalo. I am not Affalo's biggest fan, but he fits within a team concept more. However this is clearly a position we are looking to upgrade.
He has replaced Felton with Calderon. This is essentially a wash. Neither guy is any good anymore, but Calderon is a great teammate and passer, who has helped NY become a team that plays unselfishly. He's a mentor for younger players. Chris Bosh and DeMar DeRozan both sad as much.

In other moves, Galloway is there instead of Shump. I really don't see how anyone can complain about Galloway. Grant instead of Hardaway. So far this move hasn't shown it's value, but lets give it a year.

We're the same team we were when Phil inherited them 2 years ago in regards to being a team that's neither good or really bad, and likely to finish in the 30's in win total. However the room to grow with this group is far more, and then there's capspace. We have legitimate young players in Porzingis, Galloway, Grant, Williams all of whom can find their role on this team and come back stronger next year.

Right now I'd agree Phil's work has been average. If he is able to replace Afflalo and Calderon, it will go a long way. If he can do for the backcourt, what he did for the team's front court, within the next year, I think it'll be a really good job he's done in re-building the team. However until he upgrades the backcourt the same way he did the front court, I won't say he's done enough. We need 2 more moves, and Phil needs to get it done within a period that Melo is still at an all-star level. Doing it within this offseason would be best but likely we're looking at 1 major signing at best.

Jmpasq wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Still, sometimes culture influences behavior inside organizations. Think Fisher never saw Phil Jackson bolting town to see Jeanie Buss? As one member of the Knicks organization wondered, "Where would [Fisher] get the idea that it was OK to fly to California on an off day to see your girlfriend?"

Also this strikes me as a bad sign. And maybe that Phil isn't working. Someone INSIDE the Knicks is cracking about Phil going to CA to visit his lady all the time. Essentially someone on the Knicks is calling Phil a hypocrit. (and they're not wrong.) There is dischord in MSG. As always.

Being a head coach and the team president is different. You can't miss a practice when you are the head coach.

Seriously completely different jobs and responsibilities

Woj is great at finding scoops and he is great reporter, but he always writes with an agenda. You have to wonder who he's using as a source when you see a quote like that.