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Jerian Grant needs to go to the d league
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mreinman
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1/28/2016  9:58 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
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yellowboy90 wrote:Unless the Knicks pick up a guard this is a non issue. The lack of depth will prevent the Knicks from sending Grant down. So why continue to discuss something that won't happen?

are you watching this game?

Yes I am. I also see the Knicks depth chart. Again unless the Knicks pick up another guard this is a non issue. You might as well start another Wroten, freddette, green thread.

don't care who we get to help but if we leave grant in there we are just helping toronto get a better pick. Who cares if grant is growing but is he growing?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/28/2016  10:07 PM
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Unless the Knicks pick up a guard this is a non issue. The lack of depth will prevent the Knicks from sending Grant down. So why continue to discuss something that won't happen?

are you watching this game?

Yes I am. I also see the Knicks depth chart. Again unless the Knicks pick up another guard this is a non issue. You might as well start another Wroten, freddette, green thread.

don't care who we get to help but if we leave grant in there we are just helping toronto get a better pick. Who cares if grant is growing but is he growing?

I think he needs to go to the D-league but the Knicks can't do that until they have omeone to replace him on the depth chart so that's why it's a non issue.

This is not like the spurs when Joseph was it playing and ask to go down. The Knicks lack depth so Grant plays and they won't sign anyone or trade for anyone.

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1/28/2016  10:09 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Unless the Knicks pick up a guard this is a non issue. The lack of depth will prevent the Knicks from sending Grant down. So why continue to discuss something that won't happen?

are you watching this game?

Yes I am. I also see the Knicks depth chart. Again unless the Knicks pick up another guard this is a non issue. You might as well start another Wroten, freddette, green thread.

Nah I prefer another Nate Wolters thread

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1/28/2016  10:12 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Unless the Knicks pick up a guard this is a non issue. The lack of depth will prevent the Knicks from sending Grant down. So why continue to discuss something that won't happen?

are you watching this game?

Yes I am. I also see the Knicks depth chart. Again unless the Knicks pick up another guard this is a non issue. You might as well start another Wroten, freddette, green thread.

Nah I prefer another Nate Wolters thread

briggs gonna binge grant post ... its comin

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/28/2016  10:12 PM
Teams are dropping off on grant like he's the plague, absolute zero respect for his jump shot
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mreinman
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1/28/2016  10:15 PM
I need to go bump some of my lowry threads
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/28/2016  10:19 PM
forget anything I said about jerian. He closed out like a star. He is a keeper
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/28/2016  10:52 PM
EnySpree wrote:Something odd is going on with his legs. He's having problems dribbling. He's having trouble doing things he's supposed to be good at. He's very weak and wobbly. I don't like his posture.

The Knicks are really in trouble at guard. I know we all want Grant to succeed, but it's more than simply playing him more or running special plays for him. He's just not playing well. He's 24 years old too so that's a little scary.


I'll bet he eats too much gluten...

...or maybe the GMOs are messing him up.

Just a thought.

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1/28/2016  11:13 PM
mreinman wrote:forget anything I said about jerian. He closed out like a star. He is a keeper

Lmfao

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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1/28/2016  11:44 PM
It's a process and Grant has to keep playing and learning. He's got to add a Floater to his game too cuz he only has the drive all the way to the rim which doesn't always work for him. He can't be scared to take the open shot tho. Teams give him that shot and he's got to take his time and get the form right since there's really no pressure on him from the defender. Anticipate the defender dropping off and take a DEEP breath and shoot it confidently.
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1/29/2016  2:03 AM
No need.

We need him playing more at the NBA level and we are in shortage of PG.

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1/29/2016  7:38 AM
He was quite good the other night for one quarter against the Thunder. Its called Confidence. Fish and his staff need to help him keep up his confidence.

Jeremy Lin cant go left ans still gets to the basket 5 years later. Grant can improve his shot and he over dribbles at times but he has the other skills that are needed. He drives to the basket, looks to set up people, defends well and likes to be the leader.

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1/29/2016  8:11 AM
Is there one rookie pg who impresses? I think there's a lot of inconsistency among the lot

And IMO the d league isn't the answer. He'd learn more riding pine if he focuses on the game and sits next to a coach

Having said that he needs to get his shot fixed. If LT could do it so can Jerian

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1/29/2016  8:18 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:He was quite good the other night for one quarter against the Thunder. Its called Confidence. Fish and his staff need to help him keep up his confidence.

Jeremy Lin cant go left ans still gets to the basket 5 years later. Grant can improve his shot and he over dribbles at times but he has the other skills that are needed. He drives to the basket, looks to set up people, defends well and likes to be the leader.

Everyone has to draw their confidence from somewhere. If they are relying on someone to give them confidence through coddling then they are dead.

I'm not bashing Grant. He just needs extra work. I believe in the dude, but he's got things to work on. He can find that confidence but being around hungry dudes that want his spot

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1/29/2016  9:56 AM
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EnySpree wrote:Something odd is going on with his legs. He's having problems dribbling. He's having trouble doing things he's supposed to be good at. He's very weak and wobbly. I don't like his posture.

The Knicks are really in trouble at guard. I know we all want Grant to succeed, but it's more than simply playing him more or running special plays for him. He's just not playing well. He's 24 years old too so that's a little scary.


I just think his Playing time in soo inconsistent and that turns into inconsistent play.

Never knows, when he's going to play, if he's going to play, will he be the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th man off the bench, will he get 10, 14, 20 minutes. I know the saying ALWAYS BE READY, but what if someone came to pick you up from work every single day at a different time, and just told you to be ready, and some days they don't even show up..


You seriously need to stop finding things that players are doing bad and turning them into being the fault of Fisher. I know you don't like Fisher and you've made that very clear but it's like you put a blindfold on to certain things and only look at everything as being the fault of Fisher because you don't want him as our head coach. I know i get on a certain few of you about the hate you have towards Fisher and Calderon but if you really take everything into account you'll see that everything that you blame on Fisher really isn't always Fisher's fault. I think people take my defending of Fisher wrong because we get into it so much about him but i don't think he's some great coach but i absolutely think he gets blamed for much more than what is truly his fault and don't think he's as bad as some make him out to be. He has these guys playing hard and that's a big thing for a coach to be able to do especially when that coach is dealing with as much as he's dealing with. I think the Fisher haters should just start dealing with the fact that as of right now he's our head coach and he's not going anywhere. I think next year will be the year that he's gonna need to really show he can coach this team cause i think Phil is gonna have this team much closer to the type of team he wants next year and it will be on Fisher to take them to the playoffs and hopefully make a run in those playoffs.
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1/29/2016  9:58 AM
nixluva wrote:
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mreinman wrote:is it just me or does he take really weird strides? Reminds me of magic johnson's steps but grant should be a speed player.

I agree alot the steps. He has a weird stride. Like he has tendinitis or something. He looks alot luke his dad and uncle. Like imagine Horace trying to run the point. That's how he's moving around. Not a good sign.

Tight hips!!! He plays too straight up and with his feet too close. Needs a wider base so he has better balance too. Still that's not why he's not successful. It's in his head. Game is still too fast for him in terms of reading the D and making quicker decisions. It's gotta happen faster! He freezes and the moment passes.


And he has openly said that he's having a tough time learning the triangle so all that's in his head and it's on him to get it right.
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1/29/2016  10:01 AM
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Unless the Knicks pick up a guard this is a non issue. The lack of depth will prevent the Knicks from sending Grant down. So why continue to discuss something that won't happen?

are you watching this game?

Yes I am. I also see the Knicks depth chart. Again unless the Knicks pick up another guard this is a non issue. You might as well start another Wroten, freddette, green thread.

don't care who we get to help but if we leave grant in there we are just helping toronto get a better pick. Who cares if grant is growing but is he growing?


I think he's growing just not as fast as some want him to grow so what they do is turn that around to be on Fisher cause he isn't playing enough even though Fisher is doing what a good head coach should do and making him earn his minutes.
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1/29/2016  10:12 AM
Grant uses his salad fork for his main course!
Why Fish has not developed this kid's manners is beyond me!!!
send him to the Dleague and learn some!!!
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1/29/2016  10:15 AM
newyorker4ever wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:Something odd is going on with his legs. He's having problems dribbling. He's having trouble doing things he's supposed to be good at. He's very weak and wobbly. I don't like his posture.

The Knicks are really in trouble at guard. I know we all want Grant to succeed, but it's more than simply playing him more or running special plays for him. He's just not playing well. He's 24 years old too so that's a little scary.


I just think his Playing time in soo inconsistent and that turns into inconsistent play.

Never knows, when he's going to play, if he's going to play, will he be the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th man off the bench, will he get 10, 14, 20 minutes. I know the saying ALWAYS BE READY, but what if someone came to pick you up from work every single day at a different time, and just told you to be ready, and some days they don't even show up..


You seriously need to stop finding things that players are doing bad and turning them into being the fault of Fisher. I know you don't like Fisher and you've made that very clear but it's like you put a blindfold on to certain things and only look at everything as being the fault of Fisher because you don't want him as our head coach. I know i get on a certain few of you about the hate you have towards Fisher and Calderon but if you really take everything into account you'll see that everything that you blame on Fisher really isn't always Fisher's fault. I think people take my defending of Fisher wrong because we get into it so much about him but i don't think he's some great coach but i absolutely think he gets blamed for much more than what is truly his fault and don't think he's as bad as some make him out to be. He has these guys playing hard and that's a big thing for a coach to be able to do especially when that coach is dealing with as much as he's dealing with. I think the Fisher haters should just start dealing with the fact that as of right now he's our head coach and he's not going anywhere. I think next year will be the year that he's gonna need to really show he can coach this team cause i think Phil is gonna have this team much closer to the type of team he wants next year and it will be on Fisher to take them to the playoffs and hopefully make a run in those playoffs.

agree 100%. Extremely well said!

Fisher deserves credit for a lot of positive things this year. They have played hard pretty much every game. You also have to give him credit for a significant upgrade in team defense. We don't have any player that's a candidate for defensive player of the year, yet the team plays good D and unarguably much better than last year. Even if he's not the long-term answer, the team and culture will benefit from those contributions.

I have been a frequent critic of Fisher but I actually believe he's a good -- maybe a very good -- coach. My big concern with him is whether he will be a great coach. Will he be Mark Jackson or Steve Kerr?

He has his faults but the criticisms can get blown out of proportion and he gets blamed for far too much. Last night was a perfect example. He got pilloried for making a big sub package when they closed the gap to 1. If you look at the game thread, I actually posted at that moment it was a critical time. It was absolutely a damned if you or if you don't moment. If he didn't make the subs and the new Raptors ran our guys off the court, he would have been criticized severely. What it came down to in that moment was the players. The subs needed to match the intensity and at least hold the fort and they didn't. Sh!t happens. I don't think it was a bad call on Fisher's part. Sasha lights it up for once in a long time and there's not a single comment about whether Fish had some guts in playing him. For all we know, he's been hitting his shots in practice and Fish has been waiting for it to translate into the game. Regardless if you're going to rail on him for making subs, you should at least give him credit when one of the subs contributed.

the knicks ran into a hot team (10 game streak), down 3 starters and their 2 best players on the road. I'm not a moral victory guy, but all of this bitching and complaining is tedious. it's as if people expect the team to win every game 100-0

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1/29/2016  11:12 AM
EnySpree wrote:Something odd is going on with his legs. He's having problems dribbling. He's having trouble doing things he's supposed to be good at. He's very weak and wobbly. I don't like his posture.

The Knicks are really in trouble at guard. I know we all want Grant to succeed, but it's more than simply playing him more or running special plays for him. He's just not playing well. He's 24 years old too so that's a little scary.


He turned 23 in October...hope that makes things a bit less scary.
EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
Jerian Grant needs to go to the d league

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