newyorker4ever wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I comb the league all the time.... I don't see anyone that the Knicks can get via trade. These nba teams are known for making stupid moves so you never know. Still if you look at every team, there literally no moves to make

I don't even understand how you can say that when there's no way of any of us knowing just who teams are willing to trade?? If Phil decides to offer up a future 1st round pick along with a DW or L.Thomas or R.Lopez i can almost guarantee you that teams that weren't thinking about trading certain players before will think about it if they know they can get a 1st round pick or a young player that has plenty of upside. Now i don't see Phil messing with trading any of our future 1st round picks cause he seems pretty set on keeping our 1st rounders to keep building with but if some one offered him a point guard that he knows is the type of player that could help us right away and in the future then he might think differently about it. Some PG's that i could see a team think about putting on the block would be R.Rubio, J.Holliday, B.Jennings, J.Clarkson, J.Teague or D.Schroeder. I'm not saying all these guys are fits for us but i think most of them can definitely fit what we're trying to do and i'm not saying that these teams would even trade these guys so all of you that are ready to jump all over my comments please note that all i'm doing is assuming and i have no idea about most anything that i've said so back up. It really just depends on if Phil wants to make a significant change this year or if he'd rather wait until the off season. Phil has a plan which none obviously know so all we can do is sit and wait and watch. I trust Phil will build a team that can not only compete for deep playoff runs but for championships, the only problem is it could take anywhere from 1 to 3 years to get it done.

I've been wondering how long it'll take the Hawks to finally decide between Teague and Schroder. I think the latter has improved so much that he will inevitably force their hand.

Having seen Jrue Holiday recently, I want no part of him. He's become a horrid defender in spite of posting good numbers. The last thing we need moving forward is yet another PG that is a defensive sieve.

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NardDogNation wrote:

martin wrote:

NardDogNation wrote:I hope to God that he's smart enough to package Calderon, Early and O'Quinn to the Clippers for Lance Stephenson's expirer, CJ Wilcox and some 2nd rounders. That move would give us an additional $11 million of cap space to keep guys that factor heavily into our rotation (Galloway, Thomas, Williams and Afflalo), while still acquiring a game changing free agent.

....and for all those exhalting Tony Wroten, how could you not support the bigger, stronger and more talented version with experience playing in the triangle?

I dont get that statement? You talking about Lance and Triangle?

I was referencing Lance Stephenson as being a better version of Tony Wroten (albeit more expensive, even on a half-season tender).

oh right, just strangely worded sentence, thought you meant someone had Triangle experience, not just experience who would be in the Triangle.

If I could move KOQ and Calderon for an expiring who could contribute this year and 2nd rounders, I would do that deal.

I was all aboard the Lance train last summer. I think he'd be good in the Triangle. As a few people have mentioned, he basically played the Triangle in Indiana during his best season.

BUT, seeing him play a few times this season with the Clippers... something seems wrong with him. I think he's too much of a risk, personality-wise. I don't think he's really motivated to play the game.

Pass on Lance for me at this point.

I have seen zero of Lance this year so I really can't offer anything on his performance. I definitely wouldn't have wanted to trade for him last offseason, just too toxic a personality for a team that needed time to figure itself out. Also, I think that Jose has in the very least been a part of the process to get team, players, Melo, KP, starting unit in the right places to get the Triangle off the ground this year. BUT, to get his salary and that of KOQ's permanently off the cap (and $4M for KOQ is indeed very small considering the upcoming cap... but $4M is still $4M, ie Lin for $2M, Gerald Green for $1.5M, etc) I would consider it heavily. Throw in some second rounders and that would sweeten the thought process.

Moving Jose and KOQ would move Knicks cap space into the $30M range, and that's not considering AA or DWill opt outs. $30M is a superstar magnet starting salary or 2 VERY nice pieces that Phil could add at his discretion.

knicks1248 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Speaking of Wroten - he's openly campaigning to sign with the Knicks now. That seems to imply that he hasn't heard much from the team.

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you really want a player who was waived off the worst team in the league by a wide margin. This kid is a horrible, horrible shooter.

I'm pretty sure we've gone over his poor shooting plenty of times and said that we'd want him for his athleticism with his driving to the basket which is something we need right now since DW is our only player that really does it right now and his defense which we also need badly in our back court. It's not like he's gonna come in and be the starter. He'd just be a situational guy that can come in and break down the defense with some quick scoring just like DW does. i really don't think he'd help us enough for all the help we need but he'd be a fun guy to watch for us.

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newyorker4ever wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Speaking of Wroten - he's openly campaigning to sign with the Knicks now. That seems to imply that he hasn't heard much from the team.

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you really want a player who was waived off the worst team in the league by a wide margin. This kid is a horrible, horrible shooter.

I'm pretty sure we've gone over his poor shooting plenty of times and said that we'd want him for his athleticism with his driving to the basket which is something we need right now since DW is our only player that really does it right now and his defense which we also need badly in our back court. It's not like he's gonna come in and be the starter. He'd just be a situational guy that can come in and break down the defense with some quick scoring just like DW does. i really don't think he'd help us enough for all the help we need but he'd be a fun guy to watch for us.

Your so easy to defend when your one dimensional, he's no rondo as far as IQ, he's a poor FT shooter, doesn't finish around the rim with any consistency at all, so how is he fun to watch. This guy as more flaws in his game than any guard we have.

Ish Smith is one dimensional so please tell me how easy he is to guard and tell that to all these teams that he's scoring on every night by driving to the basket. lol

newyorker4ever wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:I'm pretty confident that they will make a deal for a PG.

I'm expecting it will be for the likes of a DJ Augustine, Shelvin Mack, M-Chalmers type player --- something that doesn't cost us a great deal and doesn't necessarily jeopardize our $$$ going into the summer.

I could see KOQ potentially being moved and yes maybe even J-Grant.

I also think we may add a FA guard like a Wroten or T-Murry type.

M.Chalmers is a good one cause he's a UFA after this year so they could look to get something for him if they think they're gonna lose him in the off season so it shouldn't take much to get him and when Conley was out for like 4/5 games not too long ago he played really well and he has good size which as we know Phil likes from his PG's.

You gotta give your scenerio as to how the Knicks could get Chalmers. It shouldn't take much? Prove it.

newyorker4ever wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Speaking of Wroten - he's openly campaigning to sign with the Knicks now. That seems to imply that he hasn't heard much from the team.

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you really want a player who was waived off the worst team in the league by a wide margin. This kid is a horrible, horrible shooter.

I'm pretty sure we've gone over his poor shooting plenty of times and said that we'd want him for his athleticism with his driving to the basket which is something we need right now since DW is our only player that really does it right now and his defense which we also need badly in our back court. It's not like he's gonna come in and be the starter. He'd just be a situational guy that can come in and break down the defense with some quick scoring just like DW does. i really don't think he'd help us enough for all the help we need but he'd be a fun guy to watch for us.

Your so easy to defend when your one dimensional, he's no rondo as far as IQ, he's a poor FT shooter, doesn't finish around the rim with any consistency at all, so how is he fun to watch. This guy as more flaws in his game than any guard we have.

Ish Smith is one dimensional so please tell me how easy he is to guard and tell that to all these teams that he's scoring on every night by driving to the basket. lol

Ish ain't killing it like you all are making it sound. He had some good games but overall, there is a reason why he can't land anywhere. He is just not that good and can't shoot a lick.