ChuckBuck wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This is the end of this thread:

KP simply doesn't blow dunks. Dude and the team was tired, and coach didn't adjust.

This is going to be hard for you to watch. I apologize. From a week ago -

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/realgm/status/684911699758039040

I sense a trend. The Miami game was also a 2nd game of a back to back for KP.

Fortunately Fisher used 10 guys that game. The Nets game, Fisher blew it.

End thread.

Yea slightly different scenario. I really didn't get playing only 8 guys yesterday. Despite the coaching blunder the game was right there to be had. The Nets stink. I don't care how hard they try to beat the Knicks. A minor adjusted like playing more than 8 games would've lead to an easy win. The Knicks are telling as a team. The Nets are far from getting to that point

ChuckBuck wrote:This is the end of this thread:

KP simply doesn't blow dunks. Dude and the team was tired, and coach didn't adjust.

Doesn't blow dunks??? He's blown 3 in the same fashion in the passed week! Have you watched any games? He just gets so hyped and tries to take off on guys, so i won't knock him for that. But your statement it very inaccurate.

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This is the end of this thread:

KP simply doesn't blow dunks. Dude and the team was tired, and coach didn't adjust.

Doesn't blow dunks??? He's blown 3 in the same fashion in the passed week! Have you watched any games? He just gets so hyped and tries to take off on guys, so i won't knock him for that. But your statement it very inaccurate.

KP blew dunks on the tail end of back to backs against the Nets and Heat previously. Meaning he didn't have legs.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This is the end of this thread:

KP simply doesn't blow dunks. Dude and the team was tired, and coach didn't adjust.

Doesn't blow dunks??? He's blown 3 in the same fashion in the passed week! Have you watched any games? He just gets so hyped and tries to take off on guys, so i won't knock him for that. But your statement it very inaccurate.

KP blew dunks on the tail end of back to backs against the Nets and Heat previously. Meaning he didn't have legs.

Both the dunks were too long, not too short. He mistimed his jump. He had a monster dunk in the 4th quarter last night when according to you he was too tired to even walk, so basically nothing you are saying adds up.

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ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Melo creates so much space and takes so much attention off KP. When the Nets played the Knicks at the Garden, they had to put Thad Young, their best defender, on Melo. Melo out? KP gets the other team's best defender and gets no space to operate.

Also, I think a lot of people noticed how much the defense suffered without Melo, too.

This is why keeping Melo really helps KP's development. He's not ready to be a #1 option - Melo's pressence immeasurably helps KP's game in all faucets.

Good thread cause people were definitely starting the "this is KP's team" way too early. Without Melo we're back to being a average team.

below average. Cute to see Chuck clinging to his misguided and desperate notions... let me know how that works out for ya.

Everyone with a brain and eyes sees what Melo means to KP. Some just cant cope. Its bizarre but not my problem. Looking forward to Saturday.

Stop cleaning Melo's balls. It was like a 1 possesion game with 2 minutes to go.

Say what you want. When people run out of points they revert back to childish jargon. Facts are For many years, Melo has proven he can still get it done on a nightly basis in spite of being the main emphasis of a teams defensive game plan. Still being able to score and allowing others to have more ability to prosper in spite of that is special. Perhaps your hate for Melo keeps you from realizing the best thing for your afiniti for KP is to have Melo on the floor. As it will enable KP to shine. And ofcourse let your favorite team win? Many have been thought to have the ability to score if they were the main offenaive player and have gone on to other teams to try, Only to find out it is harder than they thought. KP found out, and even said it himself, it's something he is fond of Melo being able to do. Maybe that's why Melo is a hall of famer. Something KP has a long way to go before we pronounce him as one. But I hope he gets there some day. But you need not look any further than last night DW shined due to being perhaps the 3rd or 4th point of focus on the defensive game plan. KP was obviously the 1st. And you saw how he struggled. And no, it was not because of his legs. Last I checked he is 20 years old. And I am sure it's not an excuse you tend to throw out defending Melo on his slow start this year, in spite of knee surgery. Point is, Melo has been the main focal point for teams for years and has averaged NBA elite stats. Something you can't replace by a first year player that still has a lot to prove.

HofstraBBall wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Melo creates so much space and takes so much attention off KP. When the Nets played the Knicks at the Garden, they had to put Thad Young, their best defender, on Melo. Melo out? KP gets the other team's best defender and gets no space to operate.

Also, I think a lot of people noticed how much the defense suffered without Melo, too.

This is why keeping Melo really helps KP's development. He's not ready to be a #1 option - Melo's pressence immeasurably helps KP's game in all faucets.

Good thread cause people were definitely starting the "this is KP's team" way too early. Without Melo we're back to being a average team.

below average. Cute to see Chuck clinging to his misguided and desperate notions... let me know how that works out for ya.

Everyone with a brain and eyes sees what Melo means to KP. Some just cant cope. Its bizarre but not my problem. Looking forward to Saturday.

Stop cleaning Melo's balls. It was like a 1 possesion game with 2 minutes to go.

Say what you want. When people run out of points they revert back to childish jargon. Facts are For many years, Melo has proven he can still get it done on a nightly basis in spite of being the main emphasis of a teams defensive game plan. Still being able to score and allowing others to have more ability to prosper. Perhaps your hate for Melo keeps you from realizing the best thing for your afiniti for KP is to have Melo on the floor. As it will enable KP to shine. And ofcourse let your favorite team win? Many have been thought to have the ability to score if they were the main offenaive player and have gone on to other teams to try, Only to find out it is harder than they thought. KP found out, and even said it himself, it's something he is fond of Melo being able to do. Maybe that's why Melo is a hall of famer. Something KP has a long way to go before we pronounce him as one. But I hope he gets there some day. But you need not look any further than last night DW shined due to being perhaps the 3rd or 4th point of focus on the defensive game plan. KP was obviously the 1st. And you saw how he struggled. And no, it was not because of his legs. Last I checked he is 20 years old. And I am sure it's not an excuse you tend to throw out defending Melo on his slow start this year, in spite of knee surgery. Point is, Melo has been the main focal point for teams for years and has averaged NBA elite stats. Something you can't replace by a first year player that still has a lot to prove.

Ugh. Melo is not Elite status. He's only elite status for the last couple weeks.

KP has done things that only a few 20 years olds have accomplished in a long time. Only Knick since Mark Jackson to win Rookie of the month back to back.

Melo? He's never made 1 single ALL NBA FIRST TEAM or ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAM.

Come back to me when Melo makes one then you can put Elite and Melo in the same sentence.

newyorker4ever wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Melo creates so much space and takes so much attention off KP. When the Nets played the Knicks at the Garden, they had to put Thad Young, their best defender, on Melo. Melo out? KP gets the other team's best defender and gets no space to operate.

Also, I think a lot of people noticed how much the defense suffered without Melo, too.

This is why keeping Melo really helps KP's development. He's not ready to be a #1 option - Melo's pressence immeasurably helps KP's game in all faucets.

Good thread cause people were definitely starting the "this is KP's team" way too early. Without Melo we're back to being a average team.

That was ONE person not people.

MELO does get KP better looks especially the way he is playing now. And I agree the team was tired and we should've played more than 8 guys.

That's absurd. Coach has to know this going in but Fisher is still learning on the job. Pops would've sat the starters for the entire game vs the worst team in a back to back. We are not the Spurs but we can go 10-12 deep some nights. Fisher needs to understand that. You have to coach and make adjustments based on situations. First he was playing 12 guys every night and now he plays 8 in the 2nd game of a back to back. Fisher has to find that middle ground and it's all situational.

Someone gets it. WE all know Melo helps KP. But the Knicks are more than just 1 guy.

Attributing this loss to Melo's absense is just absurd. Coach didn't make adjustments on a back to back, and SHORTENED the rotation when he should've EXTENDED it. 9 guys is fine on a regular night, but you have to play 10-11 guys when your dude's are spent.

Attributing this loss to just Fisher is what's absurd. maybe if guys like DW would play some defense instead of just offense and dunking the ball we would of had a better chance. Maybe if player were hitting their shots we would of had a better chance. If anyone thinks that playing K.O'Quinn or K.Seraphin or Sasha more or at all would of changed the outcome then maybe those people should think again. We lost the game because of many things not one thing.

Needed more energy and more fresh legs out there, Fisher admitted his mistake at 1:08:

http://www.nba.com/knicks/video/teams/knicks/2016/01/14/dropbox_nyk_fisher_011316_MSGI_2528k_1280w.mp4-228853

ChuckBuck wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This is the end of this thread:

KP simply doesn't blow dunks. Dude and the team was tired, and coach didn't adjust.

Doesn't blow dunks??? He's blown 3 in the same fashion in the passed week! Have you watched any games? He just gets so hyped and tries to take off on guys, so i won't knock him for that. But your statement it very inaccurate.

KP blew dunks on the tail end of back to backs against the Nets and Heat previously. Meaning he didn't have legs.

Both the dunks were too long, not too short. He mistimed his jump. He had a monster dunk in the 4th quarter last night when according to you he was too tired to even walk, so basically nothing you are saying adds up.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/uuords/status/687457111417159682

5 for 17 adds up to tired legs.

Here, Fisher admits he goofed the game at 1:08 mark:

http://www.nba.com/knicks/video/teams/knicks/2016/01/14/dropbox_nyk_fisher_011316_MSGI_2528k_1280w.mp4-228853

Stop with the Melo idolotry, the Knicks world doesn't rotate around him. Knicks should've won this game, but didn't close out. KP is human and will make mistakes (he is 20), but will handle the franchise torch by season's end.

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Melo creates so much space and takes so much attention off KP. When the Nets played the Knicks at the Garden, they had to put Thad Young, their best defender, on Melo. Melo out? KP gets the other team's best defender and gets no space to operate.

Also, I think a lot of people noticed how much the defense suffered without Melo, too.

This is why keeping Melo really helps KP's development. He's not ready to be a #1 option - Melo's pressence immeasurably helps KP's game in all faucets.

Good thread cause people were definitely starting the "this is KP's team" way too early. Without Melo we're back to being a average team.

That was ONE person not people.

MELO does get KP better looks especially the way he is playing now. And I agree the team was tired and we should've played more than 8 guys.

That's absurd. Coach has to know this going in but Fisher is still learning on the job. Pops would've sat the starters for the entire game vs the worst team in a back to back. We are not the Spurs but we can go 10-12 deep some nights. Fisher needs to understand that. You have to coach and make adjustments based on situations. First he was playing 12 guys every night and now he plays 8 in the 2nd game of a back to back. Fisher has to find that middle ground and it's all situational.

Someone gets it. WE all know Melo helps KP. But the Knicks are more than just 1 guy.

Attributing this loss to Melo's absense is just absurd. Coach didn't make adjustments on a back to back, and SHORTENED the rotation when he should've EXTENDED it. 9 guys is fine on a regular night, but you have to play 10-11 guys when your dude's are spent.

Attributing this loss to just Fisher is what's absurd. maybe if guys like DW would play some defense instead of just offense and dunking the ball we would of had a better chance. Maybe if player were hitting their shots we would of had a better chance. If anyone thinks that playing K.O'Quinn or K.Seraphin or Sasha more or at all would of changed the outcome then maybe those people should think again. We lost the game because of many things not one thing.

Needed more energy and more fresh legs out there, Fisher admitted his mistake at 1:08:

http://www.nba.com/knicks/video/teams/knicks/2016/01/14/dropbox_nyk_fisher_011316_MSGI_2528k_1280w.mp4-228853

You do realize that it's the coaches job to always take blame for losses. It's like that in all professional sports but i guess you don't know that......well you do now.