Just think before the Draft Monroe was the big target and we're so much better because he went somewhere else.

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mreinman wrote:love it too but the 100's of i told you so threads as if you have the vision that we all wished for?

you win some you lose some ... sometimes you are wrong and sometimes you are right ... they are winning now and looking pretty solid and cohesive.

For my part, it's not about the fact that it's actually coming together.

There was no inevitability about that.

For me . . . it was about how it COULD come together.

My only issue is not with people who said it WON'T happen (because that was as likely as not) but rather with people who said it COULDN'T happen ("Triangle is outdated" and etc).

Those are 2 different things . . .

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nixluva wrote:I think the point is that KP playing this well on both ends has given this franchise a totally different stance RIGHT NOW! It was always a "wait and see" or "in time they could be" proposition. KP is making it a Right Now team. Then when you add on top of that MELO buying in as he has, that has changed the trajectory of this franchise improvement from long term to present.

I believed in this team but this is even better than I hoped! KP has adjusted to this level so fast!!!

If you knew this then you would have picked them to win 60

That's just stupid! I picked 45-50 wins based on how I viewed the talent and how they would come together at some point this season. I was EXTREMELY detailed in my threads on how I positively I felt about this team's ability to compete.

if you honestly took your record predictions for the past 10 years, how do you think you did?

You don't even know how I've been doing with predictions. But that's besides the point. We all know the team was hampered by Dolan's interference in the past. Not everything is about season predictions!!! As I've said many times we talk about far more things than season predictions and on various topics I contribute to the forum.

For instance when talking about the Triangle, which you and others have been disagreeing with me all along!!! I've defended my position on the Triangle and haven't wavered. How's that looking now?

perfect!

Whatever man! Nothing you say can kill the joy I have in how this team is playing right now! They're executing at a high level and trusting each other! It's a reflection of Phil and Fish doing their jobs and the players buying in!

love it too but the 100's of i told you so threads as if you have the vision that we all wished for?

you win some you lose some ... sometimes you are wrong and sometimes you are right ... they are winning now and looking pretty solid and cohesive.

Now you're exaggerating regarding threads! Also if it's not that big of an issue to you if we get things right or wrong, why be a dick about it? You're the one throwing season predictions in people's faces! We all take educated guesses about everything.

It's a Knicks forum so we discuss ALL THINGS KNICKS! I try to add to the convo meaningfully on this forum. No reason to try and diminish what I contribute. If I take the time to study and learn the details of the Triangle and post here why do some try to kick dirt on that effort if they haven't even tried to really learn it?

but when none of us knew that LT was gonna be this player, you pipe up that this is NOT TRUE! Of course you knew ...

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

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mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:I think the point is that KP playing this well on both ends has given this franchise a totally different stance RIGHT NOW! It was always a "wait and see" or "in time they could be" proposition. KP is making it a Right Now team. Then when you add on top of that MELO buying in as he has, that has changed the trajectory of this franchise improvement from long term to present.

I believed in this team but this is even better than I hoped! KP has adjusted to this level so fast!!!

If you knew this then you would have picked them to win 60

That's just stupid! I picked 45-50 wins based on how I viewed the talent and how they would come together at some point this season. I was EXTREMELY detailed in my threads on how I positively I felt about this team's ability to compete.

if you honestly took your record predictions for the past 10 years, how do you think you did?

You don't even know how I've been doing with predictions. But that's besides the point. We all know the team was hampered by Dolan's interference in the past. Not everything is about season predictions!!! As I've said many times we talk about far more things than season predictions and on various topics I contribute to the forum.

For instance when talking about the Triangle, which you and others have been disagreeing with me all along!!! I've defended my position on the Triangle and haven't wavered. How's that looking now?

perfect!

Whatever man! Nothing you say can kill the joy I have in how this team is playing right now! They're executing at a high level and trusting each other! It's a reflection of Phil and Fish doing their jobs and the players buying in!

love it too but the 100's of i told you so threads as if you have the vision that we all wished for?

you win some you lose some ... sometimes you are wrong and sometimes you are right ... they are winning now and looking pretty solid and cohesive.

Now you're exaggerating regarding threads! Also if it's not that big of an issue to you if we get things right or wrong, why be a dick about it? You're the one throwing season predictions in people's faces! We all take educated guesses about everything.

It's a Knicks forum so we discuss ALL THINGS KNICKS! I try to add to the convo meaningfully on this forum. No reason to try and diminish what I contribute. If I take the time to study and learn the details of the Triangle and post here why do some try to kick dirt on that effort if they haven't even tried to really learn it?

but when none of us knew that LT was gonna be this player, you pipe up that this is NOT TRUE! Of course you knew ...

Here we go again! You did this earlier in the Toure Murry thread and it was an exaggeration of what I actually said. You need to stop paraphrasing me incorrectly! Some were against bringing LT back. They didn't see his value or think he could get better. So why are you knocking me for liking him? This happened with Shved. I didn't just say I like him cuz we signed him. I fully explained WHY I thought he would do well. It wasn't a shock to me that he did. As I've said we talk about many things besides season predictions and I'm not always wrong.

you are not always wrong but you speak down to posters as if you are way over everybodys head and I am not sure if its intentional but if it is, its a bit pathetic.

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go figure.

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At least KP turned this youngster's life around.

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KP has for sure improved but he was very good to go from the start.
I can only imagine after KP was doing what he does in a practice a few times what Melo, coaches and the rest of the guys must have thought and how they must have smiled ear to ear.
This kind of talent is pretty apparent, especially to players and coaches.

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nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:I think the point is that KP playing this well on both ends has given this franchise a totally different stance RIGHT NOW! It was always a "wait and see" or "in time they could be" proposition. KP is making it a Right Now team. Then when you add on top of that MELO buying in as he has, that has changed the trajectory of this franchise improvement from long term to present.

I believed in this team but this is even better than I hoped! KP has adjusted to this level so fast!!!

If you knew this then you would have picked them to win 60

That's just stupid! I picked 45-50 wins based on how I viewed the talent and how they would come together at some point this season. I was EXTREMELY detailed in my threads on how I positively I felt about this team's ability to compete.

if you honestly took your record predictions for the past 10 years, how do you think you did?

You don't even know how I've been doing with predictions. But that's besides the point. We all know the team was hampered by Dolan's interference in the past. Not everything is about season predictions!!! As I've said many times we talk about far more things than season predictions and on various topics I contribute to the forum.

For instance when talking about the Triangle, which you and others have been disagreeing with me all along!!! I've defended my position on the Triangle and haven't wavered. How's that looking now?

perfect!

I sure hope you two get a room soon.

WaltLongmire wrote:Just a thought...who would have thunk it that winning could be so divisive at times on this forum...

go figure.

We trade a bunch of second and third level players to sign a perennial all-star who single-handedly drags the franchise out of a backpage fodder hell hole. This creates division.

We make the playoffs 3 years running. This creates division.

We make it to the second round for the first time since Spree left town. This creates division.

The all-star decides to resign here instead of going to any of three proven contenders who are light years ahead of this franchise talent-wise. This creates division.

The all-star player plays incredibly well with a level of true NBA talent that we haven't seen on this team in over 10 years. This creates division.

The UK, where division happens.

They see a young rook bust his tail in practice and hustle in games, playing 2 way ball. "If a 20 year kid can bring the effort, then my 31 year old ass betta come to play!"