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1/10/2016  4:48 PM

I think they are going all in on Calipari if they can but Jax would be a good fit there.
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1/10/2016  4:50 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Do people even go to there games anymore?

KG/Pierce was suppose to provide them with leadership that Dwill & Joe Johnson didnt bring.

Nets gotta be the worst destination for free agents. Poor guys that get traded there and have no choice

i am going to five games at barclays this season. fantastic seats in the corner behind the visitors' bench, about 10 rows back, rim level. i have seen the clippers, and monday it's the spurs. then i get to see okc, the knicks, and the nuggets.

living in brooklyn and being a knicks fan, i obviously didn't get the tickets to watch the nyets. only problem is the noise level and the "entertainment" during timeouts and halftimes which is execrable.

but seeing the nba game from these seats makes watching the nyets and hearing and seeing the entertainment endurable.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/10/2016  4:51 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:Putin should have been in charge of that "plan". He knows how to play chess.

Man, I don't like the Nets but I both feel bad and am angry at them. The latter because Boston better not get Simmons!

prokhorov was a childhood prodigy at chess.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/10/2016  5:15 PM
Funny how the NETS drama is such a side show, it's gets very little press compare to every NY team. Tat dysfunctional sht that got going on there would be front and center of every paper in the city, not to mention national.
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1/10/2016  5:28 PM
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/10/2016  5:37 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/10/2016  6:03 PM
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/10/2016  6:18 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

you seem to be getting more contentious and argumentative.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/10/2016  6:22 PM
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

you seem to be getting more contentious and argumentative.

??

how was that either?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/10/2016  7:06 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

you seem to be getting more contentious and argumentative.

??

how was that either?

i'm good at vibing stuff out in person, not as good online. sorry.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/10/2016  7:17 PM
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

you seem to be getting more contentious and argumentative.

??

how was that either?

i'm good at vibing stuff out in person, not as good online. sorry.

np ... just don't like hollins.

holfresh loved him which says that he must be terrible :-)

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/10/2016  7:33 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

you seem to be getting more contentious and argumentative.

??

how was that either?

i'm good at vibing stuff out in person, not as good online. sorry.

np ... just don't like hollins.

holfresh loved him which says that he must be terrible :-)

i actually lean towards not caring much for hollins either. i just don't like the idea of having to sweep out a coach because of the ineptitude of the gm. i understand it but i think there's something not right about it.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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1/10/2016  7:34 PM
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

you seem to be getting more contentious and argumentative.

??

how was that either?

i'm good at vibing stuff out in person, not as good online. sorry.

np ... just don't like hollins.

holfresh loved him which says that he must be terrible :-)

i actually lean towards not caring much for hollins either. i just don't like the idea of having to sweep out a coach because of the ineptitude of the gm. i understand it but i think there's something not right about it.

yeah ... I get that and if hollins was a good coach then it would not be fair. I think that perhaps they realized that he is not that good.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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1/10/2016  7:46 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
I think they are going all in on Calipari if they can but Jax would be a good fit there.

Calipari is in the middle of coaching UK
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gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
I think they are going all in on Calipari if they can but Jax would be a good fit there.

Calipari is in the middle of coaching UK

Yeah but that is the big rumor from what I have read. It would be for next year.
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1/10/2016  8:12 PM
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

you seem to be getting more contentious and argumentative.

??

how was that either?

i'm good at vibing stuff out in person, not as good online. sorry.

np ... just don't like hollins.

holfresh loved him which says that he must be terrible :-)

i actually lean towards not caring much for hollins either. i just don't like the idea of having to sweep out a coach because of the ineptitude of the gm. i understand it but i think there's something not right about it.

yeah ... I get that and if hollins was a good coach then it would not be fair. I think that perhaps they realized that he is not that good.

He does not have the personally to coach in New York. He is overly sensitive to criticism and that's where Derek Fisher shines. I agree obviously th roster is King and Proko's doing but Hollins didn't help himself. Just a terrible fit. Chalk that one up to King as well. I willing to bet they hire Mark Jackson now. It's a good fit for both. Jax is good coaching a young team that's starting over and building. Any competent GM will see that
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CrushAlot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
I think they are going all in on Calipari if they can but Jax would be a good fit there.

Calipari is in the middle of coaching UK

Yeah but that is the big rumor from what I have read. It would be for next year.

Oh right. That's alcertainly a possibility. The return of Cal to the Nets. However if Mark wants the job now I think he gets it
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1/10/2016  8:17 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
I think they are going all in on Calipari if they can but Jax would be a good fit there.

Calipari is in the middle of coaching UK

Yeah but that is the big rumor from what I have read. It would be for next year.

Oh right. That's alcertainly a possibility. The return of Cal to the Nets. However if Mark wants the job now I think he gets it

I think Jax would be great. I liked Cal in nj the first time. I think the lockout and some of his guys being traded cost him his job.
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1/10/2016  8:49 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:king was horrible. the garnett and pierce acquisition was prokohrov going "all in" right away, putting azzes in seats with two former champions, one of them an nba finals mvp. if i were a nyets fan i would have been excited in the short run and realize that the pain would come later. later is now.

not a fan of hollins' firing though.

hollins the guy who hates analytics? No room anymore for guys like that.

the roster was not his doing. look what he had to work with: lopez, johnson, jarrett jack, bogdanovich are not going to get it done. but maybe in a losing situation the players just stop giving maximum effort and the coach gets swept out with the gm.

and I am sure they took into account what he had to work with and they still realized that he should be canned.

you seem to be getting more contentious and argumentative.

??

how was that either?

i'm good at vibing stuff out in person, not as good online. sorry.

np ... just don't like hollins.

holfresh loved him which says that he must be terrible :-)

i actually lean towards not caring much for hollins either. i just don't like the idea of having to sweep out a coach because of the ineptitude of the gm. i understand it but i think there's something not right about it.

yeah ... I get that and if hollins was a good coach then it would not be fair. I think that perhaps they realized that he is not that good.

He does not have the personally to coach in New York. He is overly sensitive to criticism and that's where Derek Fisher shines. I agree obviously th roster is King and Proko's doing but Hollins didn't help himself. Just a terrible fit. Chalk that one up to King as well. I willing to bet they hire Mark Jackson now. It's a good fit for both. Jax is good coaching a young team that's starting over and building. Any competent GM will see that

jackson's religious foolishness vis a vis homosexuality turned me off in a big way. not too many evangelical christians in positions of influence living in new york.

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would not go near mjax
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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