Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

callmened wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:White people can't talk about racism the way black people can or we'll be called racists.

YES...lol. its called a "double standard". lol. can we (black people) at least have something? ANYTHING? lol. i dont want to turn this into a political/racial thing but ive always hated that response. no - two wrongs dont make a right - im not advocating for that. but it would be nice if black people could get "some" privileges here. lol. "some double standards" wont hurt...i promise you it wont hurt. oh how about this? wanna trade positions? i can have your double standard reverse racism problems and you can have my - umm actual racism problems. lol (i got interrogated by cops last night in nyc for taking out my xmas tree - UGH! smh)

#rantOver

PS - i dont know what SAS said about coach smith. nor do i usually advocate or support what steph a smith ever says

I like people in the media whos not afraid to ruffle the feathers on sensitive topics. Personally I think this world needs more people like Stephen A Smith to bring sensitive discussion to light. Just like an infected cut....you can't clean it until you open it and expose it.

No I'm not related to SAS..but I wish this world can one day have a healthy debate about sensitive topics without both sides calling each other a racist.

Smith was not fired for being black....that's not the discussion or debate SAS was addressing. Hm and Herm Edwards both agreed on the system being the problem not this black vs white debate that most people try to turn these debates into.

Trump is another example of a loud mouth that brings up sensitive debates most are afraid to touch. He's not fit to be president but he's not afraid to bring up sensitive debates.

What they did to Smith is wrong. And the nfl system of interviewing and hiring is broken. And this system doesn't just exist in football....Its also in corporate America, police gangs, etc.... That's all he's pointing out. Don't let the loud mouth and big words that he doesn't know blind you from the facts he speak of.

Barkley is another person in this category that most hate. But I like guys like this not afraid to talk about the stuff most people most people are afraid to talk about even if it threatens their employment or credibility.

i dont follow SAS, but i am curious...
has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?

How is that relevant?

is his outrage / rant just this once...if not, is it based on race? i am not targeting the question itself...rather who is raising it and whether other coaches let go are getting the same questions raised...?

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

callmened wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:White people can't talk about racism the way black people can or we'll be called racists.

YES...lol. its called a "double standard". lol. can we (black people) at least have something? ANYTHING? lol. i dont want to turn this into a political/racial thing but ive always hated that response. no - two wrongs dont make a right - im not advocating for that. but it would be nice if black people could get "some" privileges here. lol. "some double standards" wont hurt...i promise you it wont hurt. oh how about this? wanna trade positions? i can have your double standard reverse racism problems and you can have my - umm actual racism problems. lol (i got interrogated by cops last night in nyc for taking out my xmas tree - UGH! smh)

#rantOver

PS - i dont know what SAS said about coach smith. nor do i usually advocate or support what steph a smith ever says

I like people in the media whos not afraid to ruffle the feathers on sensitive topics. Personally I think this world needs more people like Stephen A Smith to bring sensitive discussion to light. Just like an infected cut....you can't clean it until you open it and expose it.

No I'm not related to SAS..but I wish this world can one day have a healthy debate about sensitive topics without both sides calling each other a racist.

Smith was not fired for being black....that's not the discussion or debate SAS was addressing. Hm and Herm Edwards both agreed on the system being the problem not this black vs white debate that most people try to turn these debates into.

Trump is another example of a loud mouth that brings up sensitive debates most are afraid to touch. He's not fit to be president but he's not afraid to bring up sensitive debates.

What they did to Smith is wrong. And the nfl system of interviewing and hiring is broken. And this system doesn't just exist in football....Its also in corporate America, police gangs, etc.... That's all he's pointing out. Don't let the loud mouth and big words that he doesn't know blind you from the facts he speak of.

Barkley is another person in this category that most hate. But I like guys like this not afraid to talk about the stuff most people most people are afraid to talk about even if it threatens their employment or credibility.

i dont follow SAS, but i am curious...
has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?

How is that relevant?

is his outrage / rant just this once...if not, is it based on race? i am not targeting the question itself...rather who is raising it and whether other coaches let go are getting the same questions raised...?

I'm sorry, I'm still not understanding. Are you asking if he's brought up whether race was a factor after a white coach was fired?

GustavBahler wrote:As the only Bucs fan on this board (that I know of) I can tell you that I believe that race had nothing to do with it. One hallmark of Lovie's time as Bucs head coach was piss poor preparation. Stephen A said that last season was a wash, dont buy that at all. There was more than enough talent to finish better than worst record in the league his first season. His defense was giving up too many points, franchise record setting losses in some games, his adjustments sucked, the Tampa 2 is outdated, and it was the most penalized team in the league the last 2 seasons, the team had no discipline.

His hiring of the QB coach as OC last season after his OC got sick/quit was a joke. The kid was an OC in college briefly and showed nothing. On top of that Lovie hired his two sons as coaches with no experience, maybe not coincidentally the team sucked in the areas they coached.

Not surprised the Glazers fired Smith the way they did, they have shown themselves to be scumbags. Not long after the Bucs won it all, the Glazers bought Manchester United and then proceeded to gut the Bucs for a decade to help cover their expenses, no one had more unnused cap room over that stretch.

The Glazers suck, but it was 8-24, poor preparation, passionless leadership to go along with a losing streak to end the season that did him in. Was happy to see Lovie hired, thought he would bring stability after the craziness of Schiano. Lovie brought all his guys in, players from Chicago, he built the team he wanted and it got us 8-24. Next.....

Thank You Gustav. Is there anyway you can relay that info to the Edgy/Provocutive SAS?

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

callmened wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:White people can't talk about racism the way black people can or we'll be called racists.

YES...lol. its called a "double standard". lol. can we (black people) at least have something? ANYTHING? lol. i dont want to turn this into a political/racial thing but ive always hated that response. no - two wrongs dont make a right - im not advocating for that. but it would be nice if black people could get "some" privileges here. lol. "some double standards" wont hurt...i promise you it wont hurt. oh how about this? wanna trade positions? i can have your double standard reverse racism problems and you can have my - umm actual racism problems. lol (i got interrogated by cops last night in nyc for taking out my xmas tree - UGH! smh)

#rantOver

PS - i dont know what SAS said about coach smith. nor do i usually advocate or support what steph a smith ever says

I like people in the media whos not afraid to ruffle the feathers on sensitive topics. Personally I think this world needs more people like Stephen A Smith to bring sensitive discussion to light. Just like an infected cut....you can't clean it until you open it and expose it.

No I'm not related to SAS..but I wish this world can one day have a healthy debate about sensitive topics without both sides calling each other a racist.

Smith was not fired for being black....that's not the discussion or debate SAS was addressing. Hm and Herm Edwards both agreed on the system being the problem not this black vs white debate that most people try to turn these debates into.

Trump is another example of a loud mouth that brings up sensitive debates most are afraid to touch. He's not fit to be president but he's not afraid to bring up sensitive debates.

What they did to Smith is wrong. And the nfl system of interviewing and hiring is broken. And this system doesn't just exist in football....Its also in corporate America, police gangs, etc.... That's all he's pointing out. Don't let the loud mouth and big words that he doesn't know blind you from the facts he speak of.

Barkley is another person in this category that most hate. But I like guys like this not afraid to talk about the stuff most people most people are afraid to talk about even if it threatens their employment or credibility.

i dont follow SAS, but i am curious...
has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?

How is that relevant?

is his outrage / rant just this once...if not, is it based on race? i am not targeting the question itself...rather who is raising it and whether other coaches let go are getting the same questions raised...?

I'm sorry, I'm still not understanding. Are you asking if he's brought up whether race was a factor after a white coach was fired?

no... i am asking if he's ever brought up questions similar to the ones brought up today when a non-black coach was fired. not necessarily a white coach.

Which coaches of Asian, Latin or Indian descent are you referring to specifically?

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

callmened wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:White people can't talk about racism the way black people can or we'll be called racists.

YES...lol. its called a "double standard". lol. can we (black people) at least have something? ANYTHING? lol. i dont want to turn this into a political/racial thing but ive always hated that response. no - two wrongs dont make a right - im not advocating for that. but it would be nice if black people could get "some" privileges here. lol. "some double standards" wont hurt...i promise you it wont hurt. oh how about this? wanna trade positions? i can have your double standard reverse racism problems and you can have my - umm actual racism problems. lol (i got interrogated by cops last night in nyc for taking out my xmas tree - UGH! smh)

#rantOver

PS - i dont know what SAS said about coach smith. nor do i usually advocate or support what steph a smith ever says

I like people in the media whos not afraid to ruffle the feathers on sensitive topics. Personally I think this world needs more people like Stephen A Smith to bring sensitive discussion to light. Just like an infected cut....you can't clean it until you open it and expose it.

No I'm not related to SAS..but I wish this world can one day have a healthy debate about sensitive topics without both sides calling each other a racist.

Smith was not fired for being black....that's not the discussion or debate SAS was addressing. Hm and Herm Edwards both agreed on the system being the problem not this black vs white debate that most people try to turn these debates into.

Trump is another example of a loud mouth that brings up sensitive debates most are afraid to touch. He's not fit to be president but he's not afraid to bring up sensitive debates.

What they did to Smith is wrong. And the nfl system of interviewing and hiring is broken. And this system doesn't just exist in football....Its also in corporate America, police gangs, etc.... That's all he's pointing out. Don't let the loud mouth and big words that he doesn't know blind you from the facts he speak of.

Barkley is another person in this category that most hate. But I like guys like this not afraid to talk about the stuff most people most people are afraid to talk about even if it threatens their employment or credibility.

i dont follow SAS, but i am curious...
has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?

How is that relevant?

is his outrage / rant just this once...if not, is it based on race? i am not targeting the question itself...rather who is raising it and whether other coaches let go are getting the same questions raised...?

I'm sorry, I'm still not understanding. Are you asking if he's brought up whether race was a factor after a white coach was fired?

no... i am asking if he's ever brought up questions similar to the ones brought up today when a non-black coach was fired. not necessarily a white coach.

Which coaches of Asian, Latin or Indian descent are you referring to specifically?

i am not referring to anyone specifically, thought i made that clear. more importantly...what do you care...? what's your angle on all of this?

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

callmened wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:White people can't talk about racism the way black people can or we'll be called racists.

YES...lol. its called a "double standard". lol. can we (black people) at least have something? ANYTHING? lol. i dont want to turn this into a political/racial thing but ive always hated that response. no - two wrongs dont make a right - im not advocating for that. but it would be nice if black people could get "some" privileges here. lol. "some double standards" wont hurt...i promise you it wont hurt. oh how about this? wanna trade positions? i can have your double standard reverse racism problems and you can have my - umm actual racism problems. lol (i got interrogated by cops last night in nyc for taking out my xmas tree - UGH! smh)

#rantOver

PS - i dont know what SAS said about coach smith. nor do i usually advocate or support what steph a smith ever says

I like people in the media whos not afraid to ruffle the feathers on sensitive topics. Personally I think this world needs more people like Stephen A Smith to bring sensitive discussion to light. Just like an infected cut....you can't clean it until you open it and expose it.

No I'm not related to SAS..but I wish this world can one day have a healthy debate about sensitive topics without both sides calling each other a racist.

Smith was not fired for being black....that's not the discussion or debate SAS was addressing. Hm and Herm Edwards both agreed on the system being the problem not this black vs white debate that most people try to turn these debates into.

Trump is another example of a loud mouth that brings up sensitive debates most are afraid to touch. He's not fit to be president but he's not afraid to bring up sensitive debates.

What they did to Smith is wrong. And the nfl system of interviewing and hiring is broken. And this system doesn't just exist in football....Its also in corporate America, police gangs, etc.... That's all he's pointing out. Don't let the loud mouth and big words that he doesn't know blind you from the facts he speak of.

Barkley is another person in this category that most hate. But I like guys like this not afraid to talk about the stuff most people most people are afraid to talk about even if it threatens their employment or credibility.

i dont follow SAS, but i am curious...
has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?

How is that relevant?

is his outrage / rant just this once...if not, is it based on race? i am not targeting the question itself...rather who is raising it and whether other coaches let go are getting the same questions raised...?

I'm sorry, I'm still not understanding. Are you asking if he's brought up whether race was a factor after a white coach was fired?

no... i am asking if he's ever brought up questions similar to the ones brought up today when a non-black coach was fired. not necessarily a white coach.

Which coaches of Asian, Latin or Indian descent are you referring to specifically?

i am not referring to anyone specifically, thought i made that clear. more importantly...what do you care...? what's your angle on all of this?

No different that yours.

You asked a question - "has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?" - you were looking to engage in a discussion of the topic. I'm accepting your invitation.

The fact is there are hardly any coaches in the NBA and NFL that aren't white (predominantly) or black (much less so).

So the context of your question seems to be does SAS bring up race when a white coach is fired. The relevancy of your question remains unclear. Not sure why asking you to clarify is problematic?

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

callmened wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:White people can't talk about racism the way black people can or we'll be called racists.

YES...lol. its called a "double standard". lol. can we (black people) at least have something? ANYTHING? lol. i dont want to turn this into a political/racial thing but ive always hated that response. no - two wrongs dont make a right - im not advocating for that. but it would be nice if black people could get "some" privileges here. lol. "some double standards" wont hurt...i promise you it wont hurt. oh how about this? wanna trade positions? i can have your double standard reverse racism problems and you can have my - umm actual racism problems. lol (i got interrogated by cops last night in nyc for taking out my xmas tree - UGH! smh)

#rantOver

PS - i dont know what SAS said about coach smith. nor do i usually advocate or support what steph a smith ever says

I like people in the media whos not afraid to ruffle the feathers on sensitive topics. Personally I think this world needs more people like Stephen A Smith to bring sensitive discussion to light. Just like an infected cut....you can't clean it until you open it and expose it.

No I'm not related to SAS..but I wish this world can one day have a healthy debate about sensitive topics without both sides calling each other a racist.

Smith was not fired for being black....that's not the discussion or debate SAS was addressing. Hm and Herm Edwards both agreed on the system being the problem not this black vs white debate that most people try to turn these debates into.

Trump is another example of a loud mouth that brings up sensitive debates most are afraid to touch. He's not fit to be president but he's not afraid to bring up sensitive debates.

What they did to Smith is wrong. And the nfl system of interviewing and hiring is broken. And this system doesn't just exist in football....Its also in corporate America, police gangs, etc.... That's all he's pointing out. Don't let the loud mouth and big words that he doesn't know blind you from the facts he speak of.

Barkley is another person in this category that most hate. But I like guys like this not afraid to talk about the stuff most people most people are afraid to talk about even if it threatens their employment or credibility.

i dont follow SAS, but i am curious...
has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?

How is that relevant?

is his outrage / rant just this once...if not, is it based on race? i am not targeting the question itself...rather who is raising it and whether other coaches let go are getting the same questions raised...?

I'm sorry, I'm still not understanding. Are you asking if he's brought up whether race was a factor after a white coach was fired?

no... i am asking if he's ever brought up questions similar to the ones brought up today when a non-black coach was fired. not necessarily a white coach.

Which coaches of Asian, Latin or Indian descent are you referring to specifically?

i am not referring to anyone specifically, thought i made that clear. more importantly...what do you care...? what's your angle on all of this?

No different that yours.

You asked a question - "has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?" - you were looking to engage in a discussion of the topic. I'm accepting your invitation.

The fact is there are hardly any coaches in the NBA and NFL that aren't white (predominantly) or black (much less so).

So the context of your question seems to be does SAS bring up race when a white coach is fired. The relevancy of your question remains unclear. Not sure why asking you to clarify is problematic?

it seemed you were reaching to me. relevancy of my question is for someone that follows and agrees with SAS to answer. are you one of them? lol

I don't recall SAS bringing up race when a non-black NFL or NBA coach is fired and I can't imagine any reason he would.

Why would he, since you asked if he had?

newyorker4ever wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:White people can't talk about racism the way black people can or we'll be called racists.

I think you're more likely talking specifically when white people deny racism.

No i'm saying if a white person and black person talk the same way about racism the white person will be considered a racist. I'm not even gonna get into this cause i hate racism and i hate talking or hearing people talk about racism.

I'm white. So if I say I believe racism against blacks is still problematic in our society and is not balanced out by so-called 'reverse racism', then I will be considered a racist?

I argue that all the time and I have never experienced that.

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:

blkexec wrote:

callmened wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:White people can't talk about racism the way black people can or we'll be called racists.

YES...lol. its called a "double standard". lol. can we (black people) at least have something? ANYTHING? lol. i dont want to turn this into a political/racial thing but ive always hated that response. no - two wrongs dont make a right - im not advocating for that. but it would be nice if black people could get "some" privileges here. lol. "some double standards" wont hurt...i promise you it wont hurt. oh how about this? wanna trade positions? i can have your double standard reverse racism problems and you can have my - umm actual racism problems. lol (i got interrogated by cops last night in nyc for taking out my xmas tree - UGH! smh)

#rantOver

PS - i dont know what SAS said about coach smith. nor do i usually advocate or support what steph a smith ever says

I like people in the media whos not afraid to ruffle the feathers on sensitive topics. Personally I think this world needs more people like Stephen A Smith to bring sensitive discussion to light. Just like an infected cut....you can't clean it until you open it and expose it.

No I'm not related to SAS..but I wish this world can one day have a healthy debate about sensitive topics without both sides calling each other a racist.

Smith was not fired for being black....that's not the discussion or debate SAS was addressing. Hm and Herm Edwards both agreed on the system being the problem not this black vs white debate that most people try to turn these debates into.

Trump is another example of a loud mouth that brings up sensitive debates most are afraid to touch. He's not fit to be president but he's not afraid to bring up sensitive debates.

What they did to Smith is wrong. And the nfl system of interviewing and hiring is broken. And this system doesn't just exist in football....Its also in corporate America, police gangs, etc.... That's all he's pointing out. Don't let the loud mouth and big words that he doesn't know blind you from the facts he speak of.

Barkley is another person in this category that most hate. But I like guys like this not afraid to talk about the stuff most people most people are afraid to talk about even if it threatens their employment or credibility.

i dont follow SAS, but i am curious...
has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?

How is that relevant?

is his outrage / rant just this once...if not, is it based on race? i am not targeting the question itself...rather who is raising it and whether other coaches let go are getting the same questions raised...?

I'm sorry, I'm still not understanding. Are you asking if he's brought up whether race was a factor after a white coach was fired?

no... i am asking if he's ever brought up questions similar to the ones brought up today when a non-black coach was fired. not necessarily a white coach.

Which coaches of Asian, Latin or Indian descent are you referring to specifically?

i am not referring to anyone specifically, thought i made that clear. more importantly...what do you care...? what's your angle on all of this?

No different that yours.

You asked a question - "has he brought up such issues when non-black coaches are let go either this offseason or in the past whether football or basketball?" - you were looking to engage in a discussion of the topic. I'm accepting your invitation.

The fact is there are hardly any coaches in the NBA and NFL that aren't white (predominantly) or black (much less so).

So the context of your question seems to be does SAS bring up race when a white coach is fired. The relevancy of your question remains unclear. Not sure why asking you to clarify is problematic?

it seemed you were reaching to me. relevancy of my question is for someone that follows and agrees with SAS to answer. are you one of them? lol

I don't recall SAS bringing up race when a non-black NFL or NBA coach is fired and I can't imagine any reason he would.

Why would he, since you asked if he had?

i never asked if he brought up race. smh.

All I've asked for you is to explain the context/point of you question. I still don't understand why that is a problem. Whatever it is you're getting at, maybe you're right.

Cartman718 wrote:i did try to explain it but you didn't get it and that's ok.

Yeah, I think I'd want to get as far away from this if I were you too.

Cartman718 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

Cartman718 wrote:i did try to explain it but you didn't get it and that's ok.

Yeah, I think I'd want to get as far away from this if I were you too.

my question is still open... not trying to get away from it at all. looking for SAS supporters/followers to answer it. you admitted to not understanding... like i said... that's ok.

I suspect no one answered because the question is no unclear.