Vmart wrote:Fish is to blame for this guy losing it going after his friends girl is wrong. There are other fish in the sea.

Comparing women to fish is where your logic breaks down. It actually makes a lot of sense that Barnes's ex would date Fish, since they already knew each other, already had some degree of trust and knew of things they liked about each other. Why should she have been off limits for Fish to court if she was already divorced from her husband?

You judge relationships between people as if they were sheep to be crossed by a breeder.

knickscity wrote:Dad: "Hey kids, meet your new mom"

Kids: "Dad, thats Aunt Sallie"

Dad: "The Aunt thing was in the past, kinda hard to explain"

lol.

Dad: "Hey, kids, meet your new mum"

Kids: "Who the hell is this woman?"

Dad: "Her name is Sparky. I met her at the Chunky Rears joint on Sunrise Avenue"

Kids: "Isnt that the place our old mum told you to stay away from? What was Sparky doing there?"

Dad: "She worked there. I figured this way you wouldn't have known your knew mommy from before for sure. So getting a new mum would not be traumatic on you at all."

Kids: "Wow, you're the coolest dad in the world! Friends at school will die of envy when they see Sparky on parent's day"

ESOMKnicks wrote:

knickscity wrote:Dad: "Hey kids, meet your new mom"

Kids: "Dad, thats Aunt Sallie"

Dad: "The Aunt thing was in the past, kinda hard to explain"

lol.

Dad: "Hey, kids, meet your new mum"

Kids: "Who the hell is this woman?"

Dad: "Her name is Sparky. I met her at the Chunky Rears joint on Sunrise Avenue"

Kids: "Isnt that the place our old mum told you to stay away from? What was Sparky doing there?"

Dad: "She worked there. I figured this way you wouldn't have known your knew mommy from before for sure. So getting a new mum would not be traumatic on you at all."

Kids: "Wow, you're the coolest dad in the world! Friends at school will die of envy when they see Sparky on parent's day"

knickscity wrote:But thats the shadiness of a cat like Fisher. This the same tool that used his kids sickness to bail on the team he just signed with....twice. Not surprising he wouldnt care about anyone else kids and their emotional being.

You watch soap operas too????

Back to reality.......

When a spouse dies its very common for the survivor to remarry a family friend. They have a history together and its entirely possible they can mourn the losses together without the other feeling threatened. Its a sign of maturity usually found later in life.

While I won't speak to the attention whores that is Govan and Barnes, but GENERICALLY speaking Barnes if he is good friends and has made a clean break with his ex-wife and moved on should want his ex and kids to be happy and comfortable and if they are bringing a new man into their lives it should not be a threat to have one you can trust and call a friend. This is the case if (barnes) would be comfortable with is decisions and secure with is choices. If not, he would see Fisher as a threat.

As for why Derek split from his wife I really don't know, or care. This is not the issue, unless of course you don't like Derek's substitution rotation.

I don't know these people and really don't care to. As an NBA matter Barnes brought this on himself. Calling Fish a "Snitch" is kind of funny when you think of gang related matters. For all his tough guy antics he got snitched on because he was threatened by her ex's boyfriend and thought his kids were in danger watching tv or playing video games. I thought the story was there was a group of friends having dinner. Barnes Tweet was sad.

NardDogNation wrote:I think the differences in perspective might be attributed to age. Just out of curiosity, how old is everyone commenting?

35- watching people die has left me feeling life is short, and if you find someone you can be happy with, then that's more important than 'guy code' and drama. working with women who have been in abusive relationships has opened my eyes with regards to controlling behaviour and violent jealousy.

I am very sympathetic to couples who have split. My parents did when I was about 7 and it was not pretty. My biological father did some awful things. Dude claimed to be religious as well. Not sure what he reads into it.

In any event it takes two to tango in most cases and usually lots of "Blame" to go around.

I have no clue about Barnes and Ms. Govan but him babbling on the internet is sad.

knickscity wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

knickscity wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

knickscity wrote:Neither of these guys are saints in this situation. Barnes is divorced now, he does need to move on. Fisher does have a right to date whomever he chooses, but he had to know it would be an obvious strain dating one of his friends ex's.

Why? This seems to be pure prejudice against Fisher.

Prejudice? Not even close. Read again. I said he's free to choose whomever he wants. He can choose her as well, but yeah, dating your friends ex is a strain awaiting. It's one thing if Fisher is dating a random guys ex he doesnt know. But he knew this one, was friends with him, been at his house and possibly around his kids as a friend....now he's dating her. Not a good look.

The thing also you ignoring is, how did Barnes find out? he said his kids called, could be...perhaps they arent comfortable with his friend dating their mom too, so he handled it.

When you say he can date whoever he wants and then judge him for doing it, its pretty lame actually. Matt Barnes has been a complete a-hole about this. If you are saying people can't date other people they used to know when they were married it seems like you are creating anew moral standard.

It isnt new it's common sense. You sound like a cat that would date your brother's ex wife. After all....you're not blood.....lol.

Let's leave me out of this, because I don't have a brother and even if I did, his wife probably wouldn't date me. It's not "common sense" it's your interpretation of a social norm. And I don't honestly care much about social norms. Marriage is a failed institution and the sooner people realize that the better off they'll be. Humans aren't designed to be happy in monogamous relationships yet they cling to this misbegotten sense of morality derived from the friggin middle ages.

meloshouldgo wrote:

knickscity wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

knickscity wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

knickscity wrote:Neither of these guys are saints in this situation. Barnes is divorced now, he does need to move on. Fisher does have a right to date whomever he chooses, but he had to know it would be an obvious strain dating one of his friends ex's.

Why? This seems to be pure prejudice against Fisher.

Prejudice? Not even close. Read again. I said he's free to choose whomever he wants. He can choose her as well, but yeah, dating your friends ex is a strain awaiting. It's one thing if Fisher is dating a random guys ex he doesnt know. But he knew this one, was friends with him, been at his house and possibly around his kids as a friend....now he's dating her. Not a good look.

The thing also you ignoring is, how did Barnes find out? he said his kids called, could be...perhaps they arent comfortable with his friend dating their mom too, so he handled it.

When you say he can date whoever he wants and then judge him for doing it, its pretty lame actually. Matt Barnes has been a complete a-hole about this. If you are saying people can't date other people they used to know when they were married it seems like you are creating anew moral standard.

It isnt new it's common sense. You sound like a cat that would date your brother's ex wife. After all....you're not blood.....lol.

Let's leave me out of this, because I don't have a brother and even if I did, his wife probably wouldn't date me. It's not "common sense" it's your interpretation of a social norm. And I don't honestly care much about social norms. Marriage is a failed institution and the sooner people realize that the better off they'll be. Humans aren't designed to be happy in monogamous relationships yet they cling to this misbegotten sense of morality derived from the friggin middle ages.

Leave you out of this when you originally quoted me.....lol. Take your own advice, this convo is way too advanced for you.