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12/28/2015  2:46 PM
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StarksEwing1 wrote:Truthfully ive never been a big fan of the triangle. Lets be honest the main reason it worked for phil was because he had jordan,kobe,shaq,and even pippen to a lesser extent. Those guys could win in ANY system

But they didn't win any system. Shaquille was the only one to do it.

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The posters here know better than the Lord of the Rings. The posters here think OLD PHIL don't know whats going on in the NBA, or for that matter the knicks?
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12/28/2015  2:49 PM
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blkexec wrote:Can someone explain to me how Early could improve his defense (as we saw in summer league) and appears to be a decent shooter, can't make the active roster?

He's long, young and athletic.....creates easy transition buckets and has good transition defense.

I'm just hoping it's not because of his lack of triangle IQ......Because if Phils system is causes us to lose out on talent, then we will never when a championship under Phil, unless we add players from the dream team.


Who knows what the reason has been for Early not playing. It could be that he's really very limited to the SF spot. He can't play SG and can't play PF either. He has less breakdown ability than DWill or LT. I think he's just stuck by his limitations overall.

As for our guard situation I suspect it's only a matter of time. I think Phil was hoping the team could hold out until 10 Day contracts could be handed out. I suspect that's when we'll see him make his moves. Jerkin's slow development really messed up the plan I think. I think they probably felt they could get more from him even as a rookie. IMO it's all mental with Jerian. At this point they have to take a look at some of these other guards and see what they can bring to the table.

no, they are not using jerian well at all. Its not his fault

Here's the thing! The guards should be pushing the ball so that they can look for easy scoring and to preserve shot clock for the half court sets. When the guard is bringing the ball up this is the time for him to be aggressive and make key decisions. Pushing the ball and probing the D to see if there's an easy scoring opportunity. If not he can pull it out and call for a Drag Screen and again look for an easy scoring opportunity. After that you can look to setup in the Triangle. There should be enough shot clock left to effectively run the Triangle at that point.

Even in the Triangle set the guard will have a chance to make plays mainly in the Pinch Post side of the floor which is wide open since it's a 2 man game with everyone else packed on the Triangle side of the floor. This is where you will get the bulk of the Driving opportunities off Dribble hand offs. Still it's up to the PG to decide what to do with the ball and he has the option of pulling it back out and starting over so to speak. He can call for a Screen at any time if he wants to drive.

In the end you have to have the confidence to make more decisions and break up the predictability of the half court sets. There's no reason not to look to be more aggressive when you see the team becoming stagnant offensively. The PG instincts should take over so that you can create better tempo for your team. The main thing is the aggressiveness that the guard plays with. The lanes and angles are there only for a brief time so you have to be ready.

This is the exact same offense we run now:

There really isn't anything stopping any of our guards from doing these things. It's a talent and confidence thing. You have to be able to drive the ball and finish effectively but still looking for your teammates as the D collapses. It's the same Drag Screens and Dribble hand offs that are available now. If Jerian was more confident he could do at least some of the things we saw Shved doing. He's not a great shooter but he could still knife through the defense off the same looks.

once again, jerian never gets the chance to show he can do it. im not saying he is the answer but give the kid a legit shot

None of our guards are actually doing these things. Jerian has been very hesitant and scared with the ball and when he does try to be aggressive he's often not reading the play right and running into resistance at the rim or playing TOO FAST to be under control. I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to play thru these mistakes and hopefully gain more confidence but he hasn't shown he has the BB IQ to clearly see what the right decision should be. He also isn't a confident shooter and that also makes him a liability since defenses are GIVING him those shots. He will never be able to drive as long as he isn't a threat to hit his open shots.

Whoever didn't pay Alex s messed up bad

RIP Crushalot😞
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12/28/2015  2:51 PM
Vmart wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:Truthfully ive never been a big fan of the triangle. Lets be honest the main reason it worked for phil was because he had jordan,kobe,shaq,and even pippen to a lesser extent. Those guys could win in ANY system

But they didn't win any system. Shaquille was the only one to do it.


TRUTH!!!

Also no one complained about the effectiveness of the Triangle during all the years Phil was running it whether they won a title or not. They didn't win it every year even with top talent. As i've pointed out many times Phil's teams were pretty much always top 10 offensively even tho running the Triangle. Just look at the Offensive Ratings of his teams in LA. While not a running team they were effective. They were playing at the pace that the Spurs are playing right now!!!


Season	Lg	Team	                W	L	W/L%	SRS	Pace	Rel_Pace  ORtg	 Rel_ORtg  Playoffs	        Coaches	                Top WS
2010-11	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	57	25	.695	6.01	90.7	-1.4	  111.0	 3.7	  Lost W. Conf. Semis	P. Jackson (57-25)	P. Gasol (14.7)
2009-10	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	57	25	.695	4.78	92.8	0.1	  108.8	 1.2	  Won Finals	        P. Jackson (57-25)	P. Gasol (11.0)
2008-09	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	65	17	.793	7.11	94.3	2.6	  112.8	 4.5	  Won Finals	        P. Jackson (65-17)	P. Gasol (13.9)
2007-08	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	57	25	.695	7.34	95.6	3.2	  113.0	 5.5	  Lost Finals	        P. Jackson (57-25)	K. Bryant (13.8)
2006-07	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	42	40	.512	0.24	93.5	1.6	  108.6	 2.1	  Lost W. C. 1st Rnd.	P. Jackson (42-40)	K. Bryant (13.0)
2005-06	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	45	37	.549	2.53	90.9	0.4	  108.4	 2.2	  Lost W. C. 1st Rnd.	P. Jackson (45-37)	K. Bryant (15.3)
2003-04	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	56	26	.683	4.35	92.3	2.2	  105.5	 2.6	  Lost Finals	        P. Jackson (56-26)	K. Bryant (10.7)
2002-03	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	50	32	.610	2.71	92.5	1.5	  107.2	 3.6	  Lost W. C. Semis	P. Jackson (50-32)	K. Bryant (14.9)
2001-02	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	58	24	.707	7.15	92.1	1.4	  109.4	 4.9	  Won Finals	        P. Jackson (58-24)	S. O'Neal (13.2)
2000-01	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	56	26	.683	3.74	91.7	0.4	  108.4	 5.4	  Won Finals	        P. Jackson (56-26)	S. O'Neal (14.9)
1999-00	NBA	Los Angeles Lakers*	67	15	.817	8.41	93.3	0.2	  107.3	 3.2	  Won Finals	        P. Jackson (67-15)	S. O'Neal (18.6)

This team doesn't have the talent to run at the same pace as the Warriors or Hawks even if they tried. They could but I doubt they would be very efficient doing it. That doesn't mean they can't and shouldn't play much faster than they are. There is a healthy balance they have to achieve. It seems clear they will have to improve the guard spots in order to make the improvements they need. We have too many PF's/C's right now so that is where I expect a change in addition we have basically dead weight in Jose and Sasha. Neither is capable of making a real difference for this team going forward.
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12/28/2015  2:55 PM
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
blkexec wrote:Can someone explain to me how Early could improve his defense (as we saw in summer league) and appears to be a decent shooter, can't make the active roster?

He's long, young and athletic.....creates easy transition buckets and has good transition defense.

I'm just hoping it's not because of his lack of triangle IQ......Because if Phils system is causes us to lose out on talent, then we will never when a championship under Phil, unless we add players from the dream team.


Who knows what the reason has been for Early not playing. It could be that he's really very limited to the SF spot. He can't play SG and can't play PF either. He has less breakdown ability than DWill or LT. I think he's just stuck by his limitations overall.

As for our guard situation I suspect it's only a matter of time. I think Phil was hoping the team could hold out until 10 Day contracts could be handed out. I suspect that's when we'll see him make his moves. Jerkin's slow development really messed up the plan I think. I think they probably felt they could get more from him even as a rookie. IMO it's all mental with Jerian. At this point they have to take a look at some of these other guards and see what they can bring to the table.

no, they are not using jerian well at all. Its not his fault

Here's the thing! The guards should be pushing the ball so that they can look for easy scoring and to preserve shot clock for the half court sets. When the guard is bringing the ball up this is the time for him to be aggressive and make key decisions. Pushing the ball and probing the D to see if there's an easy scoring opportunity. If not he can pull it out and call for a Drag Screen and again look for an easy scoring opportunity. After that you can look to setup in the Triangle. There should be enough shot clock left to effectively run the Triangle at that point.

Even in the Triangle set the guard will have a chance to make plays mainly in the Pinch Post side of the floor which is wide open since it's a 2 man game with everyone else packed on the Triangle side of the floor. This is where you will get the bulk of the Driving opportunities off Dribble hand offs. Still it's up to the PG to decide what to do with the ball and he has the option of pulling it back out and starting over so to speak. He can call for a Screen at any time if he wants to drive.

In the end you have to have the confidence to make more decisions and break up the predictability of the half court sets. There's no reason not to look to be more aggressive when you see the team becoming stagnant offensively. The PG instincts should take over so that you can create better tempo for your team. The main thing is the aggressiveness that the guard plays with. The lanes and angles are there only for a brief time so you have to be ready.

This is the exact same offense we run now:

There really isn't anything stopping any of our guards from doing these things. It's a talent and confidence thing. You have to be able to drive the ball and finish effectively but still looking for your teammates as the D collapses. It's the same Drag Screens and Dribble hand offs that are available now. If Jerian was more confident he could do at least some of the things we saw Shved doing. He's not a great shooter but he could still knife through the defense off the same looks.

once again, jerian never gets the chance to show he can do it. im not saying he is the answer but give the kid a legit shot

None of our guards are actually doing these things. Jerian has been very hesitant and scared with the ball and when he does try to be aggressive he's often not reading the play right and running into resistance at the rim or playing TOO FAST to be under control. I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to play thru these mistakes and hopefully gain more confidence but he hasn't shown he has the BB IQ to clearly see what the right decision should be. He also isn't a confident shooter and that also makes him a liability since defenses are GIVING him those shots. He will never be able to drive as long as he isn't a threat to hit his open shots.

Guys got to stop with give Grant a chance. He is nowhere close to ready and you dont piss away a season at this point. Knicks dont get in alot of practice time but Knick coaches know what they got and what they got in Early and Grant are two youngsters who are not good enough and/or not ready for NBA. Early may be closer but he has more competent bodies in front but it's Grant's fing mediocrity that has resulted in Sasha's being resused after being buried.

Forget Calderon .Does anyone here actually think Knicks would prefer to play a retread like Sasha before Grant ?????????????????????????

The video of Schved hurt. He wasnt perfect but he could play. Had some playground in him which was both entertaining and productive.He gave us a guard who could drive and dish. Would have gotten KP ball .Others will cite his career fg% but all I know is that this team would have been better off with him
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12/28/2015  2:55 PM
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nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
blkexec wrote:Can someone explain to me how Early could improve his defense (as we saw in summer league) and appears to be a decent shooter, can't make the active roster?

He's long, young and athletic.....creates easy transition buckets and has good transition defense.

I'm just hoping it's not because of his lack of triangle IQ......Because if Phils system is causes us to lose out on talent, then we will never when a championship under Phil, unless we add players from the dream team.


Who knows what the reason has been for Early not playing. It could be that he's really very limited to the SF spot. He can't play SG and can't play PF either. He has less breakdown ability than DWill or LT. I think he's just stuck by his limitations overall.

As for our guard situation I suspect it's only a matter of time. I think Phil was hoping the team could hold out until 10 Day contracts could be handed out. I suspect that's when we'll see him make his moves. Jerkin's slow development really messed up the plan I think. I think they probably felt they could get more from him even as a rookie. IMO it's all mental with Jerian. At this point they have to take a look at some of these other guards and see what they can bring to the table.

no, they are not using jerian well at all. Its not his fault

Here's the thing! The guards should be pushing the ball so that they can look for easy scoring and to preserve shot clock for the half court sets. When the guard is bringing the ball up this is the time for him to be aggressive and make key decisions. Pushing the ball and probing the D to see if there's an easy scoring opportunity. If not he can pull it out and call for a Drag Screen and again look for an easy scoring opportunity. After that you can look to setup in the Triangle. There should be enough shot clock left to effectively run the Triangle at that point.

Even in the Triangle set the guard will have a chance to make plays mainly in the Pinch Post side of the floor which is wide open since it's a 2 man game with everyone else packed on the Triangle side of the floor. This is where you will get the bulk of the Driving opportunities off Dribble hand offs. Still it's up to the PG to decide what to do with the ball and he has the option of pulling it back out and starting over so to speak. He can call for a Screen at any time if he wants to drive.

In the end you have to have the confidence to make more decisions and break up the predictability of the half court sets. There's no reason not to look to be more aggressive when you see the team becoming stagnant offensively. The PG instincts should take over so that you can create better tempo for your team. The main thing is the aggressiveness that the guard plays with. The lanes and angles are there only for a brief time so you have to be ready.

This is the exact same offense we run now:

There really isn't anything stopping any of our guards from doing these things. It's a talent and confidence thing. You have to be able to drive the ball and finish effectively but still looking for your teammates as the D collapses. It's the same Drag Screens and Dribble hand offs that are available now. If Jerian was more confident he could do at least some of the things we saw Shved doing. He's not a great shooter but he could still knife through the defense off the same looks.

once again, jerian never gets the chance to show he can do it. im not saying he is the answer but give the kid a legit shot

None of our guards are actually doing these things. Jerian has been very hesitant and scared with the ball and when he does try to be aggressive he's often not reading the play right and running into resistance at the rim or playing TOO FAST to be under control. I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to play thru these mistakes and hopefully gain more confidence but he hasn't shown he has the BB IQ to clearly see what the right decision should be. He also isn't a confident shooter and that also makes him a liability since defenses are GIVING him those shots. He will never be able to drive as long as he isn't a threat to hit his open shots.

Whoever didn't pay Alex s messed up bad


I'm sure Phil is regretting not bringing Shved back. I think he was hoping for growth from Gallo and Jerian to provide much of the same production. Jerian is the player he hoped would contribute given his maturity and skill level as well as BB IQ. I'm shocked he hasn't had more of an impact. Part of it is Fish and part of it is Jerian just not getting it. You can make an educated guess on how a player will respond but you just won't know for sure until the season. KP is a perfect example of that. He's adjusted to the NBA level WAY faster than anticipated. No GM is perfect so if that's what the standard is then...
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12/28/2015  3:00 PM
meloanyk wrote:Guys got to stop with give Grant a chance. He is nowhere close to ready and you dont piss away a season at this point. Knicks dont get in alot of practice time but Knick coaches know what they got and what they got in Early and Grant are two youngsters who are not good enough and/or not ready for NBA. Early may be closer but he has more competent bodies in front but it's Grant's fing mediocrity that has resulted in Sasha's being resused after being buried.

Forget Calderon .Does anyone here actually think Knicks would prefer to play a retread like Sasha before Grant ?????????????????????????

The video of Schved hurt. He wasnt perfect but he could play. Had some playground in him which was both entertaining and productive.He gave us a guard who could drive and dish. Would have gotten KP ball .Others will cite his career fg% but all I know is that this team would have been better off with him


Many of us wanted Shved back, but it didn't happen. Phil took a calculated risk and it backfired on him. I'm sure he realizes it now.

The key point is that I wanted to show how Shved played in the very same offense so that people could stop assuming that it's the Triangle that is holding Jerian back. At this point Phil has to look for additional talent in order to improve the team.
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12/28/2015  3:08 PM
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meloanyk wrote:Guys got to stop with give Grant a chance. He is nowhere close to ready and you dont piss away a season at this point. Knicks dont get in alot of practice time but Knick coaches know what they got and what they got in Early and Grant are two youngsters who are not good enough and/or not ready for NBA. Early may be closer but he has more competent bodies in front but it's Grant's fing mediocrity that has resulted in Sasha's being resused after being buried.

Forget Calderon .Does anyone here actually think Knicks would prefer to play a retread like Sasha before Grant ?????????????????????????

The video of Schved hurt. He wasnt perfect but he could play. Had some playground in him which was both entertaining and productive.He gave us a guard who could drive and dish. Would have gotten KP ball .Others will cite his career fg% but all I know is that this team would have been better off with him


Many of us wanted Shved back, but it didn't happen. Phil took a calculated risk and it backfired on him. I'm sure he realizes it now.

The key point is that I wanted to show how Shved played in the very same offense so that people could stop assuming that it's the Triangle that is holding Jerian back. At this point Phil has to look for additional talent in order to improve the team.

I wonder if he has an out for the nba

RIP Crushalot😞
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12/28/2015  3:23 PM
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meloanyk wrote:Guys got to stop with give Grant a chance. He is nowhere close to ready and you dont piss away a season at this point. Knicks dont get in alot of practice time but Knick coaches know what they got and what they got in Early and Grant are two youngsters who are not good enough and/or not ready for NBA. Early may be closer but he has more competent bodies in front but it's Grant's fing mediocrity that has resulted in Sasha's being resused after being buried.

Forget Calderon .Does anyone here actually think Knicks would prefer to play a retread like Sasha before Grant ?????????????????????????

The video of Schved hurt. He wasnt perfect but he could play. Had some playground in him which was both entertaining and productive.He gave us a guard who could drive and dish. Would have gotten KP ball .Others will cite his career fg% but all I know is that this team would have been better off with him


Many of us wanted Shved back, but it didn't happen. Phil took a calculated risk and it backfired on him. I'm sure he realizes it now.

The key point is that I wanted to show how Shved played in the very same offense so that people could stop assuming that it's the Triangle that is holding Jerian back. At this point Phil has to look for additional talent in order to improve the team.

I wonder if he has an out for the nba

I'd have to wonder why he'd even want to come back!

Alexey Shved has signed a three-year deal with BC Khimki of Russia.

David Pick reports Shved signed a $10.2 million deal to make him the highest paid player overseas.
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12/28/2015  3:39 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Whoever didn't pay Alex s messed up bad

not for nothing... but the whole league?

Not sure if he had a superb 16 game run with the Knicks last year and if he could have build on that or it was a 16 game mirage.

It was the only stretch where he could shoot and his overall FG% was 40%. 40. Any defense with that?

And he is now 27 and I thought I read he really wasn't attached to the gym for lifting weights.

Dude was fun to watch for that stretch.

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12/28/2015  4:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2015  4:12 PM
nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Guys got to stop with give Grant a chance. He is nowhere close to ready and you dont piss away a season at this point. Knicks dont get in alot of practice time but Knick coaches know what they got and what they got in Early and Grant are two youngsters who are not good enough and/or not ready for NBA. Early may be closer but he has more competent bodies in front but it's Grant's fing mediocrity that has resulted in Sasha's being resused after being buried.

Forget Calderon .Does anyone here actually think Knicks would prefer to play a retread like Sasha before Grant ?????????????????????????

The video of Schved hurt. He wasnt perfect but he could play. Had some playground in him which was both entertaining and productive.He gave us a guard who could drive and dish. Would have gotten KP ball .Others will cite his career fg% but all I know is that this team would have been better off with him


Many of us wanted Shved back, but it didn't happen. Phil took a calculated risk and it backfired on him. I'm sure he realizes it now.

The key point is that I wanted to show how Shved played in the very same offense so that people could stop assuming that it's the Triangle that is holding Jerian back. At this point Phil has to look for additional talent in order to improve the team.

I wonder if he has an out for the nba

I'd have to wonder why he'd even want to come back!

Alexey Shved has signed a three-year deal with BC Khimki of Russia.

David Pick reports Shved signed a $10.2 million deal to make him the highest paid player overseas.

He's the difference in us being 18-14 rather than 14-18

We could've paid Coke Aldrich 1 mm from what we get from Lopez and paid Alex 4 mm

RIP Crushalot😞
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12/28/2015  4:28 PM
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nixluva wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
nixluva wrote:
meloanyk wrote:Guys got to stop with give Grant a chance. He is nowhere close to ready and you dont piss away a season at this point. Knicks dont get in alot of practice time but Knick coaches know what they got and what they got in Early and Grant are two youngsters who are not good enough and/or not ready for NBA. Early may be closer but he has more competent bodies in front but it's Grant's fing mediocrity that has resulted in Sasha's being resused after being buried.

Forget Calderon .Does anyone here actually think Knicks would prefer to play a retread like Sasha before Grant ?????????????????????????

The video of Schved hurt. He wasnt perfect but he could play. Had some playground in him which was both entertaining and productive.He gave us a guard who could drive and dish. Would have gotten KP ball .Others will cite his career fg% but all I know is that this team would have been better off with him


Many of us wanted Shved back, but it didn't happen. Phil took a calculated risk and it backfired on him. I'm sure he realizes it now.

The key point is that I wanted to show how Shved played in the very same offense so that people could stop assuming that it's the Triangle that is holding Jerian back. At this point Phil has to look for additional talent in order to improve the team.

I wonder if he has an out for the nba

I'd have to wonder why he'd even want to come back!

Alexey Shved has signed a three-year deal with BC Khimki of Russia.

David Pick reports Shved signed a $10.2 million deal to make him the highest paid player overseas.

He's the difference in us being 18-14 rather than 14-18

We could've paid Coke Aldrich 1 mm from what we get from Lopez and paid Alex 4 mm

Shved and Cole aren't even close to what you think they are.

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Shveddies Dead.........
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Sasha is viewed as an extension of the coach. He knows the system and he is a Phil guy. We need to trade Calderon and bring in a dude like T Murry to man the point. We don't need a big deal, because there isn't really a PG out there that we can trade for. Trade Calderon for an expiring contract if possible and bring in both Murry and Fredette
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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Knicks1969 wrote:Sasha is viewed as an extension of the coach. He knows the system and he is a Phil guy. We need to trade Calderon and bring in a dude like T Murry to man the point. We don't need a big deal, because there isn't really a PG out there that we can trade for. Trade Calderon for an expiring contract if possible and bring in both Murry and Fredette

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Knicks1969 wrote:Sasha is viewed as an extension of the coach. He knows the system and he is a Phil guy. We need to trade Calderon and bring in a dude like T Murry to man the point. We don't need a big deal, because there isn't really a PG out there that we can trade for. Trade Calderon for an expiring contract if possible and bring in both Murry and Fredette

Phil said otherwise

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12/28/2015  5:11 PM
martin wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Sasha is viewed as an extension of the coach. He knows the system and he is a Phil guy. We need to trade Calderon and bring in a dude like T Murry to man the point. We don't need a big deal, because there isn't really a PG out there that we can trade for. Trade Calderon for an expiring contract if possible and bring in both Murry and Fredette

Phil said otherwise

I remember Phil wanting him back but Fisher and the other coaches wanted Seraphin instead.
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12/28/2015  5:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/28/2015  5:18 PM
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Knicks1969 wrote:Sasha is viewed as an extension of the coach. He knows the system and he is a Phil guy. We need to trade Calderon and bring in a dude like T Murry to man the point. We don't need a big deal, because there isn't really a PG out there that we can trade for. Trade Calderon for an expiring contract if possible and bring in both Murry and Fredette

Phil said otherwise

I remember Phil wanting him back but Fisher and the other coaches wanted Seraphin instead.

Found the link: http://nypost.com/2015/09/29/former-wizards-big-man-relishing-opportunity-with-knicks/

"Derek Fisher and general manager Steve Mills convinced Knicks president Phil Jackson that Seraphin was a better fit as a backup center than adding combo guard Alexey Shved, who was eager to accept the Knicks’ $2.8 million exception."

I remembered this because I wanted Shved back badly.
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12/28/2015  7:30 PM
martin wrote:
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nixluva wrote:
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meloanyk wrote:Guys got to stop with give Grant a chance. He is nowhere close to ready and you dont piss away a season at this point. Knicks dont get in alot of practice time but Knick coaches know what they got and what they got in Early and Grant are two youngsters who are not good enough and/or not ready for NBA. Early may be closer but he has more competent bodies in front but it's Grant's fing mediocrity that has resulted in Sasha's being resused after being buried.

Forget Calderon .Does anyone here actually think Knicks would prefer to play a retread like Sasha before Grant ?????????????????????????

The video of Schved hurt. He wasnt perfect but he could play. Had some playground in him which was both entertaining and productive.He gave us a guard who could drive and dish. Would have gotten KP ball .Others will cite his career fg% but all I know is that this team would have been better off with him


Many of us wanted Shved back, but it didn't happen. Phil took a calculated risk and it backfired on him. I'm sure he realizes it now.

The key point is that I wanted to show how Shved played in the very same offense so that people could stop assuming that it's the Triangle that is holding Jerian back. At this point Phil has to look for additional talent in order to improve the team.

I wonder if he has an out for the nba

I'd have to wonder why he'd even want to come back!

Alexey Shved has signed a three-year deal with BC Khimki of Russia.

David Pick reports Shved signed a $10.2 million deal to make him the highest paid player overseas.

He's the difference in us being 18-14 rather than 14-18

We could've paid Coke Aldrich 1 mm from what we get from Lopez and paid Alex 4 mm

Shved and Cole aren't even close to what you think they are.


Scvhed is better than EVERY one of our guards and its NOT close! Cole A if give PT is just as good as Lopez.
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I don't know which of the likely guards Phil will go after but I agree with Knicks1969 and I hope Phil can find room for a defensive guard like Toure Murray. He's not sexy but this defense could really use some resistance against guard penetration. As for some guard penetration of our own i'm not sure who we should bring in, but i'd take a flyer on Wroten and see if we could coach him up a bit. At least I know for sure he can push the ball and get to the rim when there's an opening or not.
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nixluva wrote:I don't know which of the likely guards Phil will go after but I agree with Knicks1969 and I hope Phil can find room for a defensive guard like Toure Murray. He's not sexy but this defense could really use some resistance against guard penetration. As for some guard penetration of our own i'm not sure who we should bring in, but i'd take a flyer on Wroten and see if we could coach him up a bit. At least I know for sure he can push the ball and get to the rim when there's an opening or not.
I like the idea of both Wroten and Murry. I thought Murry was going to be signed by Utah a short while back.
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