CrushAlot wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:The same writer wrote that fisher had a'tirade' during his post game interview recently, that Fisher 'called out Anthony'when Fisher answered a question asked specifically about Anthony etc. I posted the link to the interview in the game thread. I suggest listening/watching it rather than going with Berman's version.

That was after the Utah game. It was well warranted. This is the first time Carmelo called out his team and coaching staff. I always wandered why he never said anything early on. The "Yoyo" second unit would never be this poor if Kobe or Lebron or even Durant were here. They would have called out the coach for it long ago

It wasn't an accurate interpetation of the inteview or the content of the interview after the utah game. My advice is to watch the interview yourself. If you can't do that my advice is to ignore berman and pick any other writer that isn't so invested in creating drama and go with their interpetation. Watching the interview yourself really is the best solution.

I never said Fisher was good coach yet, and I never thought the knicks would be a .500 team.

Because our roster is as it I don't think much more can be done. I don't know a lot about basketball, but I know what a 5 year contract represents which is called a commitment. It was also done so he could grow into the job.

Calling for his head sounds like some of you really think this team SHOULD be winning more. One might say the team is well coached because they they don't get blown out and have been in winnable games. That don't mean they should win them. Yet.

Rant all you want but Fish will be here until he loses his heart to do the job, or he feels he is over his head and does not want to do it.

Yes, he is over his head, and he is not a good coach. But maybe he is doing a good job. Just cuz Melo called out his team doe snot mean he called out his coach's. If he did, then bully for him. Since when is Melo the bellwether of goodness anyway?

Eastern conference is way tough this year and we are not very good. Not terrible, but I see improvement. our lead against Atlanta was the potential. This team has to learn to trust and learn to close. Even before that it needs to figure out how to do better in the 3rd period. Thats obvious.

So what coach do some of you recommend can take this team to the next level?

Knicks1969 wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

Nalod wrote:Writer of article said he did not think he was calling out his coach but his players for not being prepared.

But in your world its all about going where you want to with it.

I'd say that even if you were right about Fisher, since you have no objectivity you have lost credibility to present any reasonable presentations to argue the case. After each loss you try to slam the coach regardless.

It's clear to me you know nothing about basketball just because a lot of us think fisher is clueless . We actually back it up with basic basketball knowledge of coaching. Pointing out what fish is clearly not doing as a coach.

You on the otherhand just say stuff like "you've lost your credibility " or no objective ... Umm I'm pretty sure 1969 has been very objective on multiple points on why fish isn't head coaching material. Hence all the threads he has started about his disgust for his coaching ability.

It's time to back up your reasoning if anyone here has lost credibility it's you and mrmarian all you guys do is try and bash the poster with saying stuff like "you don't know what your talking about" or "keep digging your hole" how about your reasoning for why fish is a good coach cause I would love to hear it... Or actually hear any basketball knowledge come out of your post. Cause all I here is nagging about other posters opinions. Have you ever even played organized basketball? I have all the way to college . I'm down to play any day of the week after 5pm if you wanna go to school.

Time for you to back up your bash son

Thank you so much fitzfarm, I try to neglect these cats, because I can see through their agenda. They want me to become boisterously disrespectful, but I won't give them that satisfaction

Your a marvel of concentration!!!

Knicks1969 wrote:Carmelo is playing magnificent basketball all season long; but too bad the sideline is not really doing much to help him out. I don't know if you've noticed that we are always a decent first half team; the problem is always in the second half, for which the sideline is often the main culprit

Yes even melo himself said we struggle with making in game adjustments. That was a big issue vs the Hawks. we came out super strong in the first. the Hawks made the the second quarter adjustment that followed through to the third. Without any counter adjustment by fish. It made for a easy comeback and hey it's working so good that they blew us out of the water by the end of the game.

Fish needs to make in game strategy adjustments for what other teams throw at us, now if I'm Boston tonight I de up just like the Hawks did and see if we try to push the tempo. If I'm a betting man chances are we won't and it could be a easy victory for the celts tonight.

Do we need a upgrade at pg absolutely, it still doesn't excuse fish for the aweful rotations the only player on this team other then melo that is getting consistent pt is LT ! Random time outs, zero in game adjustments. We don't know if grant or Sasha will play tonight or if Gallo is going to close or Jose or grant? We don't know if KP is going to play to the 7 min mark in the first or the 2 min mark. We don't know if dwill will get 10 min or 5 min or 0 min in the second half... The players don't even know what to expect. Having a unstable rotation is mentally exhausting for the players. You can really see it on d wills face when he gets taken out of games, watch his expressions as he heads to the bench he most of the time looks furious

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Melo has hit decline - and is being paid to play like a MVP/top 10 player but is more along a fringe all-star right now. It's the biggest problem with the team right now along with an inexperienced head coach.

melo is what he is i have accepted it for a long time. Its not a knock on him at all its just the reality

He's a heck of a player and still really good - just not the guy you should be paying 20-30 million a year to, to be your MVP and #1 guy. The Knicks should think long and hard about what they want to do - his value won't increase with time and age it will only lower. Right now teams like the Clippers, Lakers, Heat and Bulls would still be willing to deal for him (as those are the only teams I think he'd waive his NTC for). I really wish things were different and NY were good enough where Melo could be here and win, but it won't happen for a few years at earliest. In which case, you need to deal him before it's too late.

when asked about fisher not being happy with the offense he said that instead of the comment he would like to see fisher just show them what they need to do.

fisher may be losing melo

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:carmelo again does not seem happy with fisher.

when asked about fisher not being happy with the offense he said that instead of the comment he would like to see fisher just show them what they need to do.

fisher may be losing melo

You don't agree with Carmelo's response???

no opinion. can't comment on things like that when we are not privy to the full picture. What I can see (by reading between the lines) is that there may be tension brewing.

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:carmelo again does not seem happy with fisher.

when asked about fisher not being happy with the offense he said that instead of the comment he would like to see fisher just show them what they need to do.

fisher may be losing melo

You don't agree with Carmelo's response???

no opinion. can't comment on things like that when we are not privy to the full picture. What I can see (by reading between the lines) is that there may be tension brewing.

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:carmelo again does not seem happy with fisher.

when asked about fisher not being happy with the offense he said that instead of the comment he would like to see fisher just show them what they need to do.

fisher may be losing melo

You don't agree with Carmelo's response???

no opinion. can't comment on things like that when we are not privy to the full picture. What I can see (by reading between the lines) is that there may be tension brewing.

Have to watch the interview but you have been suggesting tension brewing quite frequently.

trust me ... its like i'm in his head

Can you please post a link to the interview at ur convenience?

I saw nothing wrong from what Carmelo said in the interview

mreinman wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

mreinman wrote:carmelo again does not seem happy with fisher.

when asked about fisher not being happy with the offense he said that instead of the comment he would like to see fisher just show them what they need to do.

fisher may be losing melo

You don't agree with Carmelo's response???

no opinion. can't comment on things like that when we are not privy to the full picture. What I can see (by reading between the lines) is that there may be tension brewing.

Have to watch the interview but you have been suggesting tension brewing quite frequently.

trust me ... its like i'm in his head