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WaltLongmire
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12/11/2015  12:22 PM
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

So I'm starting to feel that you might not be a fan of young Fish.
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12/11/2015  12:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2015  12:32 PM
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

You have an odd way of talkin. Your overuse of "da" makes me think you're really just 1969 after too many drinks.

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12/11/2015  12:33 PM
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nixluva wrote:The REAL problem is that Jose is more of a SG now, Gallo is also more of a SG and the only PG is Jerian who isn't ready or not being given a chance to show more. In either case Phil has to get this team a legit PG that can close out games!!! It's not really about MELO.

As much as we need a PG, it is about Melo in part. Dude ain't bringing it.

I believe part of that is the stagnant offense, some of it I hope isnt age. Barkley said something to the effect that he knew he was too old for the game when he had to pump fake all the time, and Im seeing a lot more of that from Melo this season. He said his knee is still recovering, but if he doesn't get it back, we're in trouble, unless Melo alters his game to reflect this new reality.

I believe part of the problem with Grant is the constantly changing rotation. I know its SL, but look at the degree of difficulty of these passes, takes to the rim, and shooting. Also check out the chemistry between KP and Grant. I would rather take my chances with Grant.

Remember last night when Sasha took over the point briefly? He was confident,barking orders, and the body language of the other players, changed immediately. They were more confident, and the Knicks went on a run.

No I dont want to put Sasha in because I believe that effect will wear out fast. I do want Grant thrown in there. If he can figure things out, we should still be able to make a run at the playoffs. If not, we need to make a trade for another PG.

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12/11/2015  12:38 PM
Funny thing is I was defending fish all last season cause it was obvious what phil was doing,and he had nothing to work with.... ,and a little of this season,...but finally come to da reality that he Sucks,and def not feeling him,he reminds me of a lighter Mike Woodson,who I couldnt stand either ,Stubborn just da Same!...No matter how fat,slow and garbage Felton was,Woodson would stay with him ,even though Tourre Murray,who wasnt Dat Good,but ****,he was way betterand faster then Raymond Fatten,I mean what did we have to lose,we were losing anyway,he just had to stay with da vet ,even though the vet Sucks!!!..That's why NY never develops young talent well!....and here we go again with Fisher doing da same thing!!!
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12/11/2015  12:44 PM
Moonangie wrote:
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

You have an odd way of talkin. Your overuse of "da" makes me think you're really just 1969 after too many drinks.


First off,I'm Not talking,I'm texting!You probably had too many drinks if u hear me talking!
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12/11/2015  12:45 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
nixluva wrote:The REAL problem is that Jose is more of a SG now, Gallo is also more of a SG and the only PG is Jerian who isn't ready or not being given a chance to show more. In either case Phil has to get this team a legit PG that can close out games!!! It's not really about MELO.

As much as we need a PG, it is about Melo in part. Dude ain't bringing it.

I believe part of that is the stagnant offense, some of it I hope isnt age. Barkley said something to the effect that he knew he was too old for the game when he had to pump fake all the time, and Im seeing a lot more of that from Melo this season. He said his knee is still recovering, but if he doesn't get it back, we're in trouble, unless Melo alters his game to reflect this new reality.

I believe part of the problem with Grant is the constantly changing rotation. I know its SL, but look at the degree of difficulty of these passes, takes to the rim, and shooting. Also check out the chemistry between KP and Grant. I would rather take my chances with Grant.

Remember last night when Sasha took over the point briefly? He was confident,barking orders, and the body language of the other players, changed immediately. They were more confident, and the Knicks went on a run.

No I dont want to put Sasha in because I believe that effect will wear out fast. I do want Grant thrown in there. If he can figure things out, we should still be able to make a run at the playoffs. If not, we need to make a trade for another PG.


Exactly!!!!!
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12/11/2015  12:45 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
nixluva wrote:The REAL problem is that Jose is more of a SG now, Gallo is also more of a SG and the only PG is Jerian who isn't ready or not being given a chance to show more. In either case Phil has to get this team a legit PG that can close out games!!! It's not really about MELO.

As much as we need a PG, it is about Melo in part. Dude ain't bringing it.

I believe part of that is the stagnant offense, some of it I hope isnt age. Barkley said something to the effect that he knew he was too old for the game when he had to pump fake all the time, and Im seeing a lot more of that from Melo this season. He said his knee is still recovering, but if he doesn't get it back, we're in trouble, unless Melo alters his game to reflect this new reality.

I believe part of the problem with Grant is the constantly changing rotation. I know its SL, but look at the degree of difficulty of these passes, takes to the rim, and shooting. Also check out the chemistry between KP and Grant. I would rather take my chances with Grant.

Remember last night when Sasha took over the point briefly? He was confident,barking orders, and the body language of the other players, changed immediately. They were more confident, and the Knicks went on a run.

No I dont want to put Sasha in because I believe that effect will wear out fast. I do want Grant thrown in there. If he can figure things out, we should still be able to make a run at the playoffs. If not, we need to make a trade for another PG.


Confidence is a huge factor to be sure, but Jerian is the only one that can really solve his problems. When he gets on the floor he needs to suck it up and go hard. Play with confidence and take the good shots he is presented with. He needs to call for his big to come out and screen, which he has a green light to do. He then needs to use his talent to drive and find open teammates. He doesn't have to always beat his man all by himself. USE THE DRAG SCREEN as a means of getting an open lane to drive and score or kick. He can use V cuts to get good shots for himself. There are a TON of mechanisms in the offense that he's not using in order to play good ball.
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12/11/2015  12:56 PM
Moonangie wrote:
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

You have an odd way of talkin. Your overuse of "da" makes me think you're really just 1969 after too many drinks.

Yeah or 13 years old on lunch break

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12/11/2015  1:00 PM
nixluva wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
martin wrote:
nixluva wrote:The REAL problem is that Jose is more of a SG now, Gallo is also more of a SG and the only PG is Jerian who isn't ready or not being given a chance to show more. In either case Phil has to get this team a legit PG that can close out games!!! It's not really about MELO.

As much as we need a PG, it is about Melo in part. Dude ain't bringing it.

I believe part of that is the stagnant offense, some of it I hope isnt age. Barkley said something to the effect that he knew he was too old for the game when he had to pump fake all the time, and Im seeing a lot more of that from Melo this season. He said his knee is still recovering, but if he doesn't get it back, we're in trouble, unless Melo alters his game to reflect this new reality.

I believe part of the problem with Grant is the constantly changing rotation. I know its SL, but look at the degree of difficulty of these passes, takes to the rim, and shooting. Also check out the chemistry between KP and Grant. I would rather take my chances with Grant.

Remember last night when Sasha took over the point briefly? He was confident,barking orders, and the body language of the other players, changed immediately. They were more confident, and the Knicks went on a run.

No I dont want to put Sasha in because I believe that effect will wear out fast. I do want Grant thrown in there. If he can figure things out, we should still be able to make a run at the playoffs. If not, we need to make a trade for another PG.


Confidence is a huge factor to be sure, but Jerian is the only one that can really solve his problems. When he gets on the floor he needs to suck it up and go hard. Play with confidence and take the good shots he is presented with. He needs to call for his big to come out and screen, which he has a green light to do. He then needs to use his talent to drive and find open teammates. He doesn't have to always beat his man all by himself. USE THE DRAG SCREEN as a means of getting an open lane to drive and score or kick. He can use V cuts to get good shots for himself. There are a TON of mechanisms in the offense that he's not using in order to play good ball.

Didn't say that confidence was the only factor. You keep throwing out different lineups, players have to take the time to get used to each other. Grant is a rookie, and all these rotations is just more work for someone learning the pro game.

Changing things up can be a good thing, but continuity will breed more success, and Grant has very little of either right now. Its obvious that Grant isnt doing all the things he should on the floor, the more time he can focus on his game, and less on constantly changing lineups the better.

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12/11/2015  1:07 PM
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Moonangie wrote:
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

You have an odd way of talkin. Your overuse of "da" makes me think you're really just 1969 after too many drinks.

Yeah or 13 years old on lunch break


By whoever this is,putting so much emphasis on that, instead of da topic,shows Ur a clown,who likes to be a smartass through the internet,cause its easy to get away with
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12/11/2015  1:12 PM
LOL well that escalated quickly, and unfortunately to the wrong person.
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12/11/2015  2:15 PM
we haven't had a real good coach in soooooooooooooo long.
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12/11/2015  2:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2015  2:26 PM
anrst wrote:we haven't had a real good coach in soooooooooooooo long.

Agreed!....and we probably won't for a looooooooooooong time,...cause there are a few really good coaches out there,but most of the great coaches avaible don't run the triangle
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12/11/2015  2:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2015  2:48 PM
letitbknown wrote:
anrst wrote:we haven't had a real good coach in soooooooooooooo long.

Agreed!....and we probably won't for a looooooooooooong time,...cause there are a few really good coaches out there,but most of the great coaches avaible don't run the triangle

Reason many don't is cuz its not easy. Nothing worth doing is easy.

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12/11/2015  2:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/11/2015  2:59 PM
letitbknown wrote:
martin wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

You have an odd way of talkin. Your overuse of "da" makes me think you're really just 1969 after too many drinks.

Yeah or 13 years old on lunch break


By whoever this is,putting so much emphasis on that, instead of da topic,shows Ur a clown,who likes to be a smartass through the internet,cause its easy to get away with

OK....I'll be the mediator....since it's usually Martin, who's one of the creators / managers of this site (hint to letitbknown). This was a classic social media mis understanding or bad choice of words. Just remember, try to communicate to each other with the same respect you would to any stranger you meet in person. Now back to the topic at hand. Knicks suck! The ship is sinking! Jump off while you still have a chance. Save yourself!

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12/11/2015  3:02 PM
letitbknown wrote:
martin wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

You have an odd way of talkin. Your overuse of "da" makes me think you're really just 1969 after too many drinks.

Yeah or 13 years old on lunch break


By whoever this is,putting so much emphasis on that, instead of da topic,shows Ur a clown,who likes to be a smartass through the internet,cause its easy to get away with

Think if it as going to a party with a friend, then you talking smack about the music, the house, the guests and find yourself doing this to the host.

Martin is the host.

Bikexec said was true. ALso, think of it as what you say, not who you are so you don't take it personal.

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12/11/2015  3:08 PM
Nalod wrote:
letitbknown wrote:
martin wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

You have an odd way of talkin. Your overuse of "da" makes me think you're really just 1969 after too many drinks.

Yeah or 13 years old on lunch break


By whoever this is,putting so much emphasis on that, instead of da topic,shows Ur a clown,who likes to be a smartass through the internet,cause its easy to get away with

Think if it as going to a party with a friend, then you talking smack about the music, the house, the guests and find yourself doing this to the host.

Martin is the host.

Bikexec said was true. ALso, think of it as what you say, not who you are so you don't take it personal.

Great way of putting it......We've all been there before. I remember questioning Briggs loyality as a knick fan 12 years ago.....And low and behold, he's still around.

Did I forget to say the Knicks Sucks! We should all try this at home. Just say it out loud a few times, and watch how good it feels. Temper your expectations with this team.....I don't care if all the great players were in the starting lineup. This team is jinx!

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12/11/2015  3:15 PM
letitbknown wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

You have an odd way of talkin. Your overuse of "da" makes me think you're really just 1969 after too many drinks.


First off,I'm Not talking,I'm texting!You probably had too many drinks if u hear me talking!

You do like to substitute "d" for "th," though.

Is it an issue with your phone or how your texting is set up?

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12/11/2015  3:20 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
letitbknown wrote:
Moonangie wrote:
letitbknown wrote:Derek Williams is Not dat great if a player,but if you use da attributes he does have and what he does properly he can be a good piece to winning,....same with Sasha,Kyle O Quinn,Lopez and So on,....This Jerk Fisher,instead of using their strengths properly, he throws them in da doghouse for not looking good....FOH,....PHIL NEEDS TO THROW FISHER IN DA DOGHOUSE!!!

You have an odd way of talkin. Your overuse of "da" makes me think you're really just 1969 after too many drinks.


First off,I'm Not talking,I'm texting!You probably had too many drinks if u hear me talking!

You do like to substitute "d" for "th," though.

Is it an issue with your phone or how your texting is set up?

When you text, you try to use less words to say the same thing. It's not an age thing, it's the world of texting! Most people in here probably use their home or work computer....not their phone.

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12/11/2015  4:36 PM
Quick question: can Sasha run the point? I tend to remember him sharing the back court with Kobe.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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