Fck changing the line up, change your approach, change your philosophy, change your game plan..Like 3 layups the entire first half and you make 2 out of 3.

How many games can you win shooting 80% of your shots from mid range. The effort is not there when you're getting blasted on the boards, the focus is not there when you miss 12 FT's, the adjustments are not there on defense when your opponent runs the same play 5 times with success.

Is anyone thinking, maybe where using Rolo (along with a few other) wrong.

Did anyone see any adjustments made between the Dallas game and the UTAH game. They came out with the same pace, miss 10 out of 12 mid range jumpers, gave up a few wide open 3's off of PnR.

Make some fckng changes to your system, not your line up you idiot coach.

helloharv wrote:I am starting to think we need to change the starting COACH

If we change the coach now we're dead. I wouldn't mind going with Kurt Rambis if Fish is fired. That's about the only way that would work. Can't have a new voice this year.

nyknickzingis wrote:The issue isn't the starting 5 it's how they're choosing to play. They're continually dumping it down low into the post and freezing. It's the worst aspect of the Triangle and NOT the purpose of the offense. You don't dump it in to Lopez and watch him. You don't just keep watching Melo pick up fouls on O trying to post up. What you need is far better team execution on O.

I think this team is lost on O, they have no idea what to do as a unit.

The move to make right now is to tweak the O so that they run less Triangle. I'm a fan of the Triangle offense and believer, but what the team needs right now is to set up the Tri spacing (Overload one side) and from there just run 2 man games with Melo/Porzingis or Calderon/Lopez or any combination of those 4 players. We need to use Melo more as a ballhandler vs posting up inside where he's drawing a lot of fouls. We don't have a 2nd ball handler next to Calderon who can draw the D. Melo can, and if Porzingis is setting screens, that's arguably one of the toughest match ups to defend in the league. Teams won't know hat to do with a Melo/Porzingis 2 man game.

If there's a change I make, it's to bring Afflalo off the bench, because that's where he is needed. He can give that 2nd unit a guy to throw the ball into to create some offense which they badly need.

I think I'd go with

Lopez/Porzingis/Melo/Vujacic/Calderon (starters only)
Porzingis/Melo/Afflalo/Galloway/Calderon (1st rotation)
Seraphin/O'Quinn/Thomas/Afflalo/Galloway (2nd unit)
Porzingis/Melo/Affalo/Galloway/Calderon (close halves)

Afflalo should be used in a 6th man type of role. Galloway should be used as backup PG until Grant gets past that rookie wall. Derrick Williams out of the rotation.

Mainly CEASE with all the post ups. If you dump it down low, the purpose is to get a quick high percentage shot off to someone who is actually good in there (Not Lopez, OTOH Afflalo is) or instead move the ball to the 2 man side of the court where they can run a S/R or some sort of 2 man game that can cause the D to adjust. The direct post ups are easy to defend, very predictable, unless you're a dominant post player, which we don't have.

I agree with a lot of this about O, but have some different ideas on lineups. I would consider sitting Rolo because when they run the triangle with him now, all it does is consume 5-7 seconds of him holding the ball looking around and eventually doing a handoff or ineffective pass. What CLyde calls east west. That high-mid post guys needs to be more effective with getting things going. Perhaps KP in that role or even Seraphin if we trust he will pass, and dare I say even Melo in a PF spot (though he'd have to resist the temptation to just keep the ball)

I would also consider sitting Jose, not because he's playing particularly bad (though his defense is still a problem) but because he's been a more consistent shooter and can add some consistency to the second unit in that regard. Might be more willing to shoot

On offense, and I know nixluva has said this a lot, it doesn't need to be 100% triangle. It's perfectly legitimate for them to run, try and establish a quick PnR or pick and pop and if that's not there, then you run the triangle. Would be nice ot see KP used in that capacity, but struggling to figure who the guard should be if Jose goes to the second unit. Guys will go under the pick if it's Grant and probably Gallo too until they start hitting shots

EnySpree wrote:I have a feeling the lineup change will mean lance thomas gets promoted and Rolo gets demoted. But now our defense is dependent on Kristaps alone? Yikes.

the more I think about it the more insane this situation becomes.

Sacramento might blow the Knicks out too. Rondo, Gay and Cousins are matchup problems. The Israelis kid poetically going to torch us too. He's been playing great this year

I think both Sacramento and Portland will blow us out. Both those teams can light it up and we are playing lost right now.

fitzfarm wrote:I swear to god if fisher pulls KP for Lance Thomas I will be furious ! And demand for fishers head

Fisher can't be this dumb. It would be political suicide in the NY media. Also, it'd make the team worse. He can't be this dumb. Every stat shows Melo actually shoots like 47% with KP on the floor and 33% with him off it or something.

crzymdups wrote:I'm beginning to think that this was just a Fisher tactic to "light a fire" under the starters. Previously the starters had come out very strong. They had leads against Miami in the beginning of the game even. I'd be surprised if he made a change on the road trip. Maybe after the road trip. I don't think they're winning on this trip and they'll come home 10-15 and there will be quite a bit of panic in the media... sigh.

Yea your prob right.. He would be wise to practice the new starting unit ... If we get swept out here it's gotta change

Knicks1969 wrote:The dude simply doesn't have the intestinal fortitude to take a stand. He will never change the starting 5, unless there is an injury. A smart coach would look to add a little speed in the back court to force the other guys to move and hold their positions; this dude.....

This is why I'd like to see grant in the starting unit and Jose come off the bench for AA so he can shoot more