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Knicks1969
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12/8/2015  5:00 PM
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blkexec wrote:I believe everybody on this site....and any sports site has posters that think they know better than everybody else. Thats why sites like this exist. It gives the couch managers, who sits in their man cave all day, a voice. I see nothing wrong with that. Briggs is the most popular poster in here, and he thinks he's smarter than every knick manager that ever existed....Nothing wrong with that. It's creates healthy debates.....Without debates, whats the point of having a UK site?

Knicks1969 feels that Fisher is not capable of coaching at this level. OK....

If it was Phil Jackson coaching, others would say he's too old to coach an NBA team. OK....

The beauty of living in America is freedom of speech.

But back to this thread, I think Fisher is over his head.....I think Phil was over his head, but I'm starting to come around now, with the KP pick and FA's. But Fisher is trying to figure out how to satisfy Phil and his roster, while trying to win games....and not exposing KP. Then he has to deal with all the negative press that comes with losing in NY. It's not easy. It's also too early to call for someones head right now. Lets see if Fisher is actually learning on the job, as it seems. I will see if he makes any substitution adjustments going forward. We will know more come mid season, at the All Star break.

1969 might be a great guy, im sure he is, i'd bet on it, he seems like a really good dude. but to say the same thing thread after thread, even threads where it's not relevant, it becomes tiresome. ive been coming here long enough, where if something is hampering my experience and others, i'm going to call it out. simple as that.

and ps - that has nothing to do with whether or not i like fisher. fisher clearly has an incomplete grade so far, but it's the constant stuff thread after thread is where i have a problem. i couldn't care less if fisher was the coach here or not.

How do you quantify incomplete as a grade? Please advise

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/8/2015  5:05 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
blkexec wrote:I believe everybody on this site....and any sports site has posters that think they know better than everybody else. Thats why sites like this exist. It gives the couch managers, who sits in their man cave all day, a voice. I see nothing wrong with that. Briggs is the most popular poster in here, and he thinks he's smarter than every knick manager that ever existed....Nothing wrong with that. It's creates healthy debates.....Without debates, whats the point of having a UK site?

Knicks1969 feels that Fisher is not capable of coaching at this level. OK....

If it was Phil Jackson coaching, others would say he's too old to coach an NBA team. OK....

The beauty of living in America is freedom of speech.

But back to this thread, I think Fisher is over his head.....I think Phil was over his head, but I'm starting to come around now, with the KP pick and FA's. But Fisher is trying to figure out how to satisfy Phil and his roster, while trying to win games....and not exposing KP. Then he has to deal with all the negative press that comes with losing in NY. It's not easy. It's also too early to call for someones head right now. Lets see if Fisher is actually learning on the job, as it seems. I will see if he makes any substitution adjustments going forward. We will know more come mid season, at the All Star break.

1969 might be a great guy, im sure he is, i'd bet on it, he seems like a really good dude. but to say the same thing thread after thread, even threads where it's not relevant, it becomes tiresome. ive been coming here long enough, where if something is hampering my experience and others, i'm going to call it out. simple as that.

and ps - that has nothing to do with whether or not i like fisher. fisher clearly has an incomplete grade so far, but it's the constant stuff thread after thread is where i have a problem. i couldn't care less if fisher was the coach here or not.

How do you quantify incomplete as a grade? Please advise

ive made my point clear on fisher a few times, ill do it one last time. last year, i don't think you can even count for fisher. midseason trades, rookie head coach, star player injured all year, crap roster, it was nothing more than a learning year for him. he had some good games, some bad games, very iffy. but he also had no roster, so how can you determine what kind of coach the guy is? gregg popovich won 17 games his first year as a coach.

this year, the team has been .500 and so far fish has been looking for the right lineups. seraphin was bad, then really good, and now leveling off. dwill is an enigma and you can see why we got the guy so cheap. he's an offensive dynamo (at times) and other times he doesn't look like he's on this planet, especially defensively. kp has been great and i think fish deserves SOME credit for easing his transition. fish also stuck with calderon when guys like you, were banishing him from the team and he's played really well the past 3 weeks. so all and all, incomplete. i need to see more.

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12/8/2015  5:18 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
blkexec wrote:I believe everybody on this site....and any sports site has posters that think they know better than everybody else. Thats why sites like this exist. It gives the couch managers, who sits in their man cave all day, a voice. I see nothing wrong with that. Briggs is the most popular poster in here, and he thinks he's smarter than every knick manager that ever existed....Nothing wrong with that. It's creates healthy debates.....Without debates, whats the point of having a UK site?

Knicks1969 feels that Fisher is not capable of coaching at this level. OK....

If it was Phil Jackson coaching, others would say he's too old to coach an NBA team. OK....

The beauty of living in America is freedom of speech.

But back to this thread, I think Fisher is over his head.....I think Phil was over his head, but I'm starting to come around now, with the KP pick and FA's. But Fisher is trying to figure out how to satisfy Phil and his roster, while trying to win games....and not exposing KP. Then he has to deal with all the negative press that comes with losing in NY. It's not easy. It's also too early to call for someones head right now. Lets see if Fisher is actually learning on the job, as it seems. I will see if he makes any substitution adjustments going forward. We will know more come mid season, at the All Star break.

1969 might be a great guy, im sure he is, i'd bet on it, he seems like a really good dude. but to say the same thing thread after thread, even threads where it's not relevant, it becomes tiresome. ive been coming here long enough, where if something is hampering my experience and others, i'm going to call it out. simple as that.

and ps - that has nothing to do with whether or not i like fisher. fisher clearly has an incomplete grade so far, but it's the constant stuff thread after thread is where i have a problem. i couldn't care less if fisher was the coach here or not.

2005? Your still a puppy!

2004 is a long time. And that just when I signed on for the second time. I was reading these posts 2 years before that.

I hear you man....just hate to see people get all flustered over nothing. If reading Knicks1969 threads is the most stressed you've encountered today, consider yourself lucky / blessed. There are people in Cali scared to leave their homes right now. We are living in hell, and don't even know it until it hits you. But the best feeling sometimes is when you can express yourself freely. Whether on the computer or in person.

Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland. The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
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12/8/2015  6:17 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
blkexec wrote:I believe everybody on this site....and any sports site has posters that think they know better than everybody else. Thats why sites like this exist. It gives the couch managers, who sits in their man cave all day, a voice. I see nothing wrong with that. Briggs is the most popular poster in here, and he thinks he's smarter than every knick manager that ever existed....Nothing wrong with that. It's creates healthy debates.....Without debates, whats the point of having a UK site?

Knicks1969 feels that Fisher is not capable of coaching at this level. OK....

If it was Phil Jackson coaching, others would say he's too old to coach an NBA team. OK....

The beauty of living in America is freedom of speech.

But back to this thread, I think Fisher is over his head.....I think Phil was over his head, but I'm starting to come around now, with the KP pick and FA's. But Fisher is trying to figure out how to satisfy Phil and his roster, while trying to win games....and not exposing KP. Then he has to deal with all the negative press that comes with losing in NY. It's not easy. It's also too early to call for someones head right now. Lets see if Fisher is actually learning on the job, as it seems. I will see if he makes any substitution adjustments going forward. We will know more come mid season, at the All Star break.

1969 might be a great guy, im sure he is, i'd bet on it, he seems like a really good dude. but to say the same thing thread after thread, even threads where it's not relevant, it becomes tiresome. ive been coming here long enough, where if something is hampering my experience and others, i'm going to call it out. simple as that.

and ps - that has nothing to do with whether or not i like fisher. fisher clearly has an incomplete grade so far, but it's the constant stuff thread after thread is where i have a problem. i couldn't care less if fisher was the coach here or not.

How do you quantify incomplete as a grade? Please advise

ive made my point clear on fisher a few times, ill do it one last time. last year, i don't think you can even count for fisher. midseason trades, rookie head coach, star player injured all year, crap roster, it was nothing more than a learning year for him. he had some good games, some bad games, very iffy. but he also had no roster, so how can you determine what kind of coach the guy is? gregg popovich won 17 games his first year as a coach.

this year, the team has been .500 and so far fish has been looking for the right lineups. seraphin was bad, then really good, and now leveling off. dwill is an enigma and you can see why we got the guy so cheap. he's an offensive dynamo (at times) and other times he doesn't look like he's on this planet, especially defensively. kp has been great and i think fish deserves SOME credit for easing his transition. fish also stuck with calderon when guys like you, were banishing him from the team and he's played really well the past 3 weeks. so all and all, incomplete. i need to see more.

Fair enough.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/8/2015  6:57 PM
blkexec wrote:I believe everybody on this site....and any sports site has posters that think they know better than everybody else. Thats why sites like this exist. It gives the couch managers, who sits in their man cave all day, a voice. I see nothing wrong with that. Briggs is the most popular poster in here, and he thinks he's smarter than every knick manager that ever existed....Nothing wrong with that. It's creates healthy debates.....Without debates, whats the point of having a UK site?

Knicks1969 feels that Fisher is not capable of coaching at this level. OK....

If it was Phil Jackson coaching, others would say he's too old to coach an NBA team. OK....

The beauty of living in America is freedom of speech.

But back to this thread, I think Fisher is over his head.....I think Phil was over his head, but I'm starting to come around now, with the KP pick and FA's. But Fisher is trying to figure out how to satisfy Phil and his roster, while trying to win games....and not exposing KP. Then he has to deal with all the negative press that comes with losing in NY. It's not easy. It's also too early to call for someones head right now. Lets see if Fisher is actually learning on the job, as it seems. I will see if he makes any substitution adjustments going forward. We will know more come mid season, at the All Star break.

I don't think Phil was in over his head. I think once he saw where things were going he went all in on the tank and getting rid of guys that didn't have character. His first offseason with money and picks was pretty successful. His first choice for a coach won a championship as a rookie in that spot. I think Phil gets it. I also think just like last year when things weren't working that he will pull the plug on Fisher if he doesn't think he is able to do the job. It would be pretty easy to move Fisher upstairs to an executive position in the organization. I believe it was speculated that he would be an exec, not a coach after his playing career. I think it is too early to speculate on Fisher losing his job though. This is a brand new team and they have come together quickly.
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12/9/2015  11:15 PM
There isn't a trade out there that can turn this team into a winner. Not even Lebron. The only reason it might work with Lebron is because he would be the freaking coach
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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12/9/2015  11:37 PM
To the OP. Who are you to tell everyone what we can and can't discuss here? Talking trades is very sensible with the way we've been playing.
Enough With all of the trade talk

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