knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:You know, if anyone is holding anyone back from a championship, its Melo that is costing KP with his poor play and lousy shooting.

so grant, galloway, and dwill are all shooting poorly because of melo, and KP gets open looks because of calderon, not melo..hmmm..hilarious

def not melo. He can possibly help teammates a bit more getting them the ball when he is doubled.

Yeah because the 8 assist coming from your forward is not enough, he needs to avg 10.

Your number one scoring option is avg 18 attempts a game, far less than any other number #1 scoring option in the league..what fckng more do you want...Is that all you got

nothing. I am thrilled with the way he is playing and he is definitely earning his money.

Or, maybe I want Dirk.

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:You know, if anyone is holding anyone back from a championship, its Melo that is costing KP with his poor play and lousy shooting.

so grant, galloway, and dwill are all shooting poorly because of melo, and KP gets open looks because of calderon, not melo..hmmm, your hilarious.

first it was he never passes, but now since he's doing that and taking moderate amount of shots for a volume shooter, you want to harp on his poor shooting.

He's step his defense up so far this season, has been a great mentor to KP, and a better leader over all, and you want to talk about his poor shooting, and we should trade him because of that..Do you see how ridiculous you folks sound

And you wonder why it's hard for the knicks to attract good players. Melo waiving his no trade clause could possibly cause more damage than good.

Melo is a strong willed player.....He's as mentally tough as they come......Might be the toughest mental player in the league, next to Lebron. If he can't last in NY, that will send major red flags.

blkexec wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:You know, if anyone is holding anyone back from a championship, its Melo that is costing KP with his poor play and lousy shooting.

so grant, galloway, and dwill are all shooting poorly because of melo, and KP gets open looks because of calderon, not melo..hmmm, your hilarious.

first it was he never passes, but now since he's doing that and taking moderate amount of shots for a volume shooter, you want to harp on his poor shooting.

He's step his defense up so far this season, has been a great mentor to KP, and a better leader over all, and you want to talk about his poor shooting, and we should trade him because of that..Do you see how ridiculous you folks sound

And you wonder why it's hard for the knicks to attract good players. Melo waiving his no trade clause could possibly cause more damage than good.

Melo is a strong willed player.....He's as mentally tough as they come......Might be the toughest mental player in the league, next to Lebron. If he can't last in NY, that will send major red flags.

Great display of mental toughness last night with the timely Technical foul and moving screen on that Porzingis 3 point attempt with a minute left!

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

probably not because then Melo would not have sounded so defected and make those comments about NY.

ChuckBuck wrote:

blkexec wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:You know, if anyone is holding anyone back from a championship, its Melo that is costing KP with his poor play and lousy shooting.

so grant, galloway, and dwill are all shooting poorly because of melo, and KP gets open looks because of calderon, not melo..hmmm, your hilarious.

first it was he never passes, but now since he's doing that and taking moderate amount of shots for a volume shooter, you want to harp on his poor shooting.

He's step his defense up so far this season, has been a great mentor to KP, and a better leader over all, and you want to talk about his poor shooting, and we should trade him because of that..Do you see how ridiculous you folks sound

And you wonder why it's hard for the knicks to attract good players. Melo waiving his no trade clause could possibly cause more damage than good.

Melo is a strong willed player.....He's as mentally tough as they come......Might be the toughest mental player in the league, next to Lebron. If he can't last in NY, that will send major red flags.

Great display of mental toughness last night with the timely Technical foul and moving screen on that Porzingis 3 point attempt with a minute left!

That wasn't mental toughness....that was stupidity. Melo is starting to see the writing on the wall, and I believe the triangle hasn't been working well for him.....Or maybe playing the SF position, going against quicker guys and not being able to beat them off the dribble. It all leads to frustration. Then watching KP go off, makes him want to provide that second scoring punch, but I think Melo's days at SF is over. He can't beat quicker guys off the dribble.....and we have a team full of centers and forwards that clog the paint, so he cant take smaller guys down low. He's basically hand cuff to just being a jump shooting facilitator. I said this would be the issue, when Melo plays with two bigs. By the time he moves KP to center, Melo is slower and tired and has old legs to beat quicker SF's like Mathews off the dribble. Yes, achilles torn Mathews.....Gives Melo problems. And he's not even close to being the best SF defender Melo will face. Basically, we will win whenever Melo has a hot shooting streak. He needs to be moved to PF, and the PF we have needs to be traded for a defensive SF. Otherwise, we will be slightly under .500 all season!

blkexec wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

blkexec wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:You know, if anyone is holding anyone back from a championship, its Melo that is costing KP with his poor play and lousy shooting.

so grant, galloway, and dwill are all shooting poorly because of melo, and KP gets open looks because of calderon, not melo..hmmm, your hilarious.

first it was he never passes, but now since he's doing that and taking moderate amount of shots for a volume shooter, you want to harp on his poor shooting.

He's step his defense up so far this season, has been a great mentor to KP, and a better leader over all, and you want to talk about his poor shooting, and we should trade him because of that..Do you see how ridiculous you folks sound

And you wonder why it's hard for the knicks to attract good players. Melo waiving his no trade clause could possibly cause more damage than good.

Melo is a strong willed player.....He's as mentally tough as they come......Might be the toughest mental player in the league, next to Lebron. If he can't last in NY, that will send major red flags.

Great display of mental toughness last night with the timely Technical foul and moving screen on that Porzingis 3 point attempt with a minute left!

That wasn't mental toughness....that was stupidity. Melo is starting to see the writing on the wall, and I believe the triangle hasn't been working well for him.....Or maybe playing the SF position, going against quicker guys and not being able to beat them off the dribble. It all leads to frustration. Then watching KP go off, makes him want to provide that second scoring punch, but I think Melo's days at SF is over. He can't beat quicker guys off the dribble.....and we have a team full of centers and forwards that clog the paint, so he cant take smaller guys down low. He's basically hand cuff to just being a jump shooting facilitator. I said this would be the issue, when Melo plays with two bigs. By the time he moves KP to center, Melo is slower and tired and has old legs to beat quicker SF's like Mathews off the dribble. Yes, achilles torn Mathews.....Gives Melo problems. And he's not even close to being the best SF defender Melo will face. Basically, we will win whenever Melo has a hot shooting streak. He needs to be moved to PF, and the PF we have needs to be traded for a defensive SF. Otherwise, we will be slightly under .500 all season!

slam dunk post.

blkexec wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

blkexec wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:You know, if anyone is holding anyone back from a championship, its Melo that is costing KP with his poor play and lousy shooting.

so grant, galloway, and dwill are all shooting poorly because of melo, and KP gets open looks because of calderon, not melo..hmmm, your hilarious.

first it was he never passes, but now since he's doing that and taking moderate amount of shots for a volume shooter, you want to harp on his poor shooting.

He's step his defense up so far this season, has been a great mentor to KP, and a better leader over all, and you want to talk about his poor shooting, and we should trade him because of that..Do you see how ridiculous you folks sound

And you wonder why it's hard for the knicks to attract good players. Melo waiving his no trade clause could possibly cause more damage than good.

Melo is a strong willed player.....He's as mentally tough as they come......Might be the toughest mental player in the league, next to Lebron. If he can't last in NY, that will send major red flags.

Great display of mental toughness last night with the timely Technical foul and moving screen on that Porzingis 3 point attempt with a minute left!

That wasn't mental toughness....that was stupidity. Melo is starting to see the writing on the wall, and I believe the triangle hasn't been working well for him.....Or maybe playing the SF position, going against quicker guys and not being able to beat them off the dribble. It all leads to frustration. Then watching KP go off, makes him want to provide that second scoring punch, but I think Melo's days at SF is over. He can't beat quicker guys off the dribble.....and we have a team full of centers and forwards that clog the paint, so he cant take smaller guys down low. He's basically hand cuff to just being a jump shooting facilitator. I said this would be the issue, when Melo plays with two bigs. By the time he moves KP to center, Melo is slower and tired and has old legs to beat quicker SF's like Mathews off the dribble. Yes, achilles torn Mathews.....Gives Melo problems. And he's not even close to being the best SF defender Melo will face. Basically, we will win whenever Melo has a hot shooting streak. He needs to be moved to PF, and the PF we have needs to be traded for a defensive SF. Otherwise, we will be slightly under .500 all season!

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

probably not because then Melo would not have sounded so defected and make those comments about NY.

they were in reference to Deron and his inability to hack it here.

If you think Melo is waiving his no trade you have payed attention to nothing that player says and does. A grumpy post game interview does not translate to life changing decisions. Please. This is nothing more than Chuckbuck's normal day dreams around 420pm

this is not just about his post game comments. what are the chances that you think that he waves the NTC to go to a contender?

Not sure that they could ever pull off a deal but I believe that melo is definitely open to waving if its the right situation.

Some of us won't see this decline or ill fit until we are trading Ewing for Glenn Rice again.

Buy low, sell high.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

probably not because then Melo would not have sounded so defected and make those comments about NY.

they were in reference to Deron and his inability to hack it here.

If you think Melo is waiving his no trade you have payed attention to nothing that player says and does. A grumpy post game interview does not translate to life changing decisions. Please. This is nothing more than Chuckbuck's normal day dreams around 420pm

this is not just about his post game comments. what are the chances that you think that he waves the NTC to go to a contender?

Not sure that they could ever pull off a deal but I believe that melo is definitely open to waving if its the right situation.

Some of us won't see this decline or ill fit until we are trading Ewing for Glenn Rice again.

Buy low, sell high.

I wonder if a Melo-KP combo would help entice KD to sign here though.
I definitely understand the reasoning behind selling now and could get behind that too.

I'd say a majority of logical basketball and true Knicks fans would sign up for a healthy KD-KP combo in a heartbeat. Need to find a taker for Melo's (NTC waived of course) fast declining prime somehow first though.

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

probably not because then Melo would not have sounded so defected and make those comments about NY.

they were in reference to Deron and his inability to hack it here.

If you think Melo is waiving his no trade you have payed attention to nothing that player says and does. A grumpy post game interview does not translate to life changing decisions. Please. This is nothing more than Chuckbuck's normal day dreams around 420pm

this is not just about his post game comments. what are the chances that you think that he waves the NTC to go to a contender?

Not sure that they could ever pull off a deal but I believe that melo is definitely open to waving if its the right situation.

Some of us won't see this decline or ill fit until we are trading Ewing for Glenn Rice again.

Buy low, sell high.

we never had a chance to move him that was realistic. I dont see any options where Melo waives it for chance to win a ring. I dont think thats what is pushing him now. I think he would rather stay here and come up short than risk chasing a title. If you really follow his comments he's here to stick it out. He's making adjustments. Some good, some a little rough.

I have no problem with trading him, its just not worth discussing. He's not going anywhere. He's a NY guy now like it or not.

A realistic scenario? Knicks dont sign anyone next summer, KP tears his knee up and Knicks are looking at 30 win season with a MElo based team. Then maybe Phil says hey... want to look around? Even then I could see him staying. Everytime KP tells the media "Carmelo has been like a big brother to me" Melo is here another month. So far Ive heard KP say it about 30 times.. so talk to me in 2017

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knixkik wrote:These threads start every time we lose and Melo doesn't shoot well. Nothing to see here.

while that may be happening way too often the last few years, this thread has nothing to do with just one game. Its just a prediction since I don't think that he is happy (enough) here, wants to win now, and may want out.

No need to get defensive for melo so easily.

You wouldn't have started this thread if we won the last 2 games for example, that is my point.

probably not because then Melo would not have sounded so defected and make those comments about NY.

they were in reference to Deron and his inability to hack it here.

If you think Melo is waiving his no trade you have payed attention to nothing that player says and does. A grumpy post game interview does not translate to life changing decisions. Please. This is nothing more than Chuckbuck's normal day dreams around 420pm

this is not just about his post game comments. what are the chances that you think that he waves the NTC to go to a contender?

Not sure that they could ever pull off a deal but I believe that melo is definitely open to waving if its the right situation.

Some of us won't see this decline or ill fit until we are trading Ewing for Glenn Rice again.

Buy low, sell high.

we never had a chance to move him that was realistic. I dont see any options where Melo waives it for chance to win a ring. I dont think thats what is pushing him now. I think he would rather stay here and come up short than risk chasing a title. If you really follow his comments he's here to stick it out. He's making adjustments. Some good, some a little rough.

I have no problem with trading him, its just not worth discussing. He's not going anywhere. He's a NY guy now like it or not.

A realistic scenario? Knicks dont sign anyone next summer, KP tears his knee up and Knicks are looking at 30 win season with a MElo based team. Then maybe Phil says hey... want to look around? Even then I could see him staying. Everytime KP tells the media "Carmelo has been like a big brother to me" Melo is here another month. So far Ive heard KP say it about 30 times.. so talk to me in 2017

you have now made this thread bumpable heaven

Houston, Miami, Memphis ... there are a number of teams like these where melo may be the missing piece.

I think that Melo is torn.