mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

clyderules wrote:Rolo, Seraphin, Grant, Melo, Early, Williams don't fit the system. That's half of the team! Calderon, Amundson and Sasha are too old and slow. That's 3/4 of the team! That doesn't leave a lot of good options except to make trades or change the system.

Dude all most any payer in this league fits this system, (It's fundamental basketball played in a triangular motion)it just takes a lot of time to learn and the knicks don't have the practice time or enough triangle experience players to help the transition, they don't have phil jackson or tex winters on the sideline either.

tell that to samuel dalembert.

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

clyderules wrote:Rolo, Seraphin, Grant, Melo, Early, Williams don't fit the system. That's half of the team! Calderon, Amundson and Sasha are too old and slow. That's 3/4 of the team! That doesn't leave a lot of good options except to make trades or change the system.

Dude all most any payer in this league fits this system, (It's fundamental basketball played in a triangular motion)it just takes a lot of time to learn and the knicks don't have the practice time or enough triangle experience players to help the transition, they don't have phil jackson or tex winters on the sideline either.

tell that to samuel dalembert.

out of the league... there must be a better knock on the triangle than Sam Dalembert cant get it.

phucking triangle killed triangle sammy!

knicks1248 wrote:BERMAN GRADE IS RIGHT ON

Give Phil Jackson an A-plus for picking the 7-3 Latvian Kristaps Porzingis fourth in the draft. It’s a grand-slam home run and Dallas coach Rick Carlisle said after Monday’s win over the Knicks other teams “didn’t have the balls to pull the trigger for that one.’’

But there’s seven other new additions to the roster who haven’t worked out nearly as fine – including six free-agent signings. Here’s the not-so-glamorous grades on Jackson’s other summer moves with the Knicks at 10-12, losers of six of eight, having fallen to 12th place in the Eastern Conference.

C: Robin Lopez: The former Blazer’s activity level has diminished in recent games, especially during the current two-game losing streak. Against Dallas, Knicks coach Derek Fisher played him just 15:41. Unsolicited, Dallas’ Dirk Nowitzki noted after the game Monday the Knicks most feared lineup is when Lopez is out, Porzingis moves to center and Lance Thomas comes in, stationed in the corner to spread the floor.

Lopez has had sore knees for years and could be in the middle of a bad stretch. Lopez’s numbers rarely tell the story of this lunchpail defender – 24 mpg, 7.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg on 45.2 percent shooting. But the 7-foot center’s rebounding output should be better. And since he has no range, Lopez needs to sink more of his low-post shots since he’s getting really good looks close to the basket. Fisher has credited Lopez most for easing Porzingis’ transition and allowing him to get boards while “RoLo’’ boxes out his man. Certainly, Jackson overpaid at four years, $54 million but he had cap space to give away. Grade: C

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SG: Arron Afflalo: After missing almost all of training camp and the first eight games with a hamstring, he’s been their best free-agent signing with a reasonable two-year, $16 million contract, considering how much they depend on him. He had his quietest night vs. Dallas (six points, 2 of 6), which his perhaps why the Knicks fell behind by 23 points in the third. After an off year in 2014-15 with Denver/Portland, he’s become very reliable in averaging 13 ppg with a 47.2 FG percentage. He creates his own shot and has become a third scoring threat after Anthony and Porzingis. Afflalo has an opt-out clause after the season, though. Grade: B-plus

PG: Jerian Grant: Considering Tim Hardaway Jr. is completely buried in Atlanta, and was even sent to the D-League for several days, the draft-night trade still looks golden. As the 19th pick, Grant has a chance to become the Knicks starting point guard next season if they work a stretch provision on Jose Calderon. Grant, 23, does everything well for a point guard except shoot from distance. He pushes the pace and can run an offense. But his 39.6 shooting percentage – 17.4 from 3-point land – has hurt the team’s bench production. Grade: B

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C: Kevin Seraphin: Had a very slow start to his Knicks career with a sore right knee in training camp and being buried on the bench. But in recent weeks, the Frenchman has stolen the minutes from Kyle O’Quinn because he’s been livelier on defense. Fisher has always liked Seraphin’s ability to make shots – from the low post or mid-range – and he’s a surprisingly deft passer, but his shooting percentage has dropped to 41.4. The Knicks also have an overload of big men and the $2.8M room exception could have been better used on last season’s backcourt sniper, Alexey Shved. Shved’s agents say he would have accepted the room exception and not gone to Russia. Grade: C-plus.

PF: Kyle O’Quinn: Maybe O’Quinn’s defense slipped a notch but Fisher has made the tough decision to bury the rugged Queens power forward who they signed to a four-year, $16 million deal. O’Quinn has three straight DNPs and five for the season. O’Quinn occasionally takes an ill-timed shot or makes a poorly conceived pass but he gave the Knicks a big lift in preseason and early on. Fisher has tried to slim the rotation to 10 and O’Quinn was the major casualty. In total he’s played seven minutes in the past five games. With the Knicks scuffling, Fisher may turn O’Quinn’s way on this upcoming three-game road trip that starts in Utah Wednesday, the coach admitting the club has gone “stagnant.’’ Grade: C-minus

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SF-PF Derrick Williams: The former King/Timberwolve has indicated he’s not pleased with his reduced minutes either as his play became more erratic after being a gangbuster off the bench in preseason and the first few games. Williams seems better with more minutes because he still needs to play through his mistakes. Occasionally out of position in the triangle, Williams’ 3-point field goal percentage has dropped to 26 percent. But they need Williams more than ever to help the bench crew now that Langston Galloway has fallen into a major shooting slump. Jackson signed Williams to a for two years and nearly $10m million and the shocking contract could prevent the Knicks from having cap space for a fullblown maximum pact this July. Grade: C

SG: Sasha Vujacic: The Slovenian recently cut his long hair but his luck hasn’t changed. Jackson took a gamble that the former Laker’s four-year NBA absence would not be an issue. After a nice training camp, Vujacic can’t find his outside shot – his most appealing attribute. After being inserted as starting shooting guard to open the season because of Afflalo’s injury, he’s fallen off the map as a DNP victim. His shooting percentages rank among the very bottom in the league – 26.1, 14.7 from 3-point land. Vujacic signed for the veteran’s minimum – a move that let Jackson feel good about losing Shved to Europe. Grade: D-minus.

Who would you sit to play KOQ?

everyone wants some koq / mins

franco12 wrote:I might bench Lopez and start O'Quinn. Honestly, some of the moves lately are head scratchers. I know you can't give everyone minutes, but we need scoring, and Williams gives you that, Lopez has vanished while O'Quinn who looked rugged has been banished. Urgent Memo to Derek Fisher: We do not possess our draft pick this year. Stop trying to lose!

I think the problem is, nobody expected lance to play the way he's been playing. Thats who took his minutes

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:1. A smaller quicker post player who can actually post up and score. Long arms great defender great energy good passer rebounder. I DO NOT think Willy H is that guy.

So a really good scorer and defender and passer and rebounder with great energy.

Why didn't the Knicks think of that??

Is that true? Then why did we spend 18mm on slow 7 footers?

I'm asking you a genuine question. You really, intentionally posted a topic suggesting the Knicks need a player who is a good scorer, defender, passer, and rebounder?

Umm yes--for the money we spent on the pivot--we did not get that. Im not a believer in guys with no post game Lopez has almost no post game and I have no clue what were doing with Oquinn but we spent 18mm on them combined.

In the future I think we need to make sure the player at the price range is more skilled faster and more athletic than what we bought.

So you really don't understand the player you are describing is a max player. That connection in your brain hasn't been made yet?

We spent our max money on KO--bench warmer and RL back up. Not my fault. Couldve drafted Bobby Portis at 21. Im looking under the radar--unless we have money to pay Al Horford AND he wanst to come here-- we need to take different avenues

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:I might bench Lopez and start O'Quinn. Honestly, some of the moves lately are head scratchers. I know you can't give everyone minutes, but we need scoring, and Williams gives you that, Lopez has vanished while O'Quinn who looked rugged has been banished. Urgent Memo to Derek Fisher: We do not possess our draft pick this year. Stop trying to lose!

I think the problem is, nobody expected lance to play the way he's been playing. Thats who took his minutes

I think Lance is a product of someone thats starting to feel comfortable in the triangle. And his skill set doesn't depend on ISO moves. He's a system guy, with average skill. They are using Lance to advertise how the triangle can make an average player look like an NBA starter. I think it's Phil marketing tool. But this is why fisher and phil kept LT and the other role players from last year. Locker room and on court coaches.....who lead by example through hard work and effort.

Last year, everybody said LT was a bum.....This year, some people are saying he should start at SF, move Melo to PF and KP to Center. What a difference a year makes!

mreinman wrote:Do you think anyone even has any idea of what you think or what opinions you have that makes you memorable - good or bad? No ... not really.

I believe NBA seasons are 82 games, not 1 or 2.

I know NBA seasons have peaks and valleys and curves.

You don't run and regurgitate your pet fixation after every loss without looking like you don't understand the game of basketball, is what I think.

Write it down, if you like.

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:Do you think anyone even has any idea of what you think or what opinions you have that makes you memorable - good or bad? No ... not really.

I believe NBA seasons are 82 games, not 1 or 2.

I know NBA seasons have peaks and valleys and curves.

You don't run and regurgitate your pet fixation after every loss without looking like you don't understand the game of basketball, is what I think.

Write it down, if you like.

hey man, im just curious... have you posted here before under a different moniker? you bring a good deal of knowledge, it's good to see in comparison to a lot of the other newcomers (no disrespect) that have come in.

nyk4ever wrote:

bigbasketballs wrote:

mreinman wrote:Do you think anyone even has any idea of what you think or what opinions you have that makes you memorable - good or bad? No ... not really.

I believe NBA seasons are 82 games, not 1 or 2.

I know NBA seasons have peaks and valleys and curves.

You don't run and regurgitate your pet fixation after every loss without looking like you don't understand the game of basketball, is what I think.

Write it down, if you like.

hey man, im just curious... have you posted here before under a different moniker? you bring a good deal of knowledge, it's good to see in comparison to a lot of the other newcomers (no disrespect) that have come in.

I might have years ago… if I did, I forgot the ID, password and email account :-)

blkexec wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:I might bench Lopez and start O'Quinn. Honestly, some of the moves lately are head scratchers. I know you can't give everyone minutes, but we need scoring, and Williams gives you that, Lopez has vanished while O'Quinn who looked rugged has been banished. Urgent Memo to Derek Fisher: We do not possess our draft pick this year. Stop trying to lose!

I think the problem is, nobody expected lance to play the way he's been playing. Thats who took his minutes

I think Lance is a product of someone thats starting to feel comfortable in the triangle. And his skill set doesn't depend on ISO moves. He's a system guy, with average skill. They are using Lance to advertise how the triangle can make an average player look like an NBA starter. I think it's Phil marketing tool. But this is why fisher and phil kept LT and the other role players from last year. Locker room and on court coaches.....who lead by example through hard work and effort.

Last year, everybody said LT was a bum.....This year, some people are saying he should start at SF, move Melo to PF and KP to Center. What a difference a year makes!

Well if only one or two or guys are getting it, why do we keep running it, It makes little to no sense. What makes it more baffling is that fisher came in this season saying all the correct thing, were going to play faster, we're going to defend better, we are going to cater to the players, not the system, we pick up a fast penetrating guard, that seems like he runs into a brick wall once he get to the rim.

Lance to me doesn't rely on the system, he gives a great effort every night, put backs, floor burns, cleans up broken plays. He's doing everything dwill was doing before his minutes plummeted.