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What would you be willing to give up in a trade for Rondo?
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clyderules
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11/24/2015  1:45 PM
We're sacrificing our future for a rent a player? And Rondo no less? Go away!
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Bonn1997
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11/24/2015  1:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/24/2015  1:49 PM
NardDogNation wrote:Nothing.

LOL
12 points on 13 shots a game!
OK, that's not exactly correct but I generally stay far away from guys with more shots than points. It's almost unheard of for an NBA player to fit that description. Throw in his attitude issues and that makes him even more undesirable.

Nalod
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11/24/2015  1:48 PM
Rookie wrote:I would be willing to give our 2018 1st round pick to Sac for Rondo. Why would Sac do it? Because Sac is looking like it will miss the playoffs once again this year and Rondo is a FA next season. Why wouldn't we just wait and try and sign him next season? because the Knicks are a guard short of being a playoff team this season. Even though Rondo is an expiring contract, I would give up the pick to salvage this year. Melo isn't getting any younger and we are trying to also establish a winning culture. The pick would also be considered payment for taking Calderon.

Adding Rondo now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon now makes us better now. Getting rid of Calderon's salary next season helps us with cap room. The cost, one 1st round pick. I would make that deal.

Rookie, you need to do more reading about Rondo and think thru why he succeeded in Boston as he did, why Ainge had a hard time trading him for a few years and perhaps now seeing his low value on free agency this past summer kind of validates it.

In fact, I'd only even consider Rondo if SAC gave us a 1st round pick with Rondo for Clearathony Early. That's it.

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11/24/2015  2:32 PM
the PG we should have pursued in the off season was Linn.

Seems like he is playing nice in Sac- just from highlights.

Dallas last year is a big red X on him that will take a lot more than 15 games to get rid of.

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11/24/2015  2:38 PM
Our future as a team?
Everything you have ever wanted is on the other side of fear- George Adair
mreinman
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11/24/2015  2:40 PM
franco12 wrote:the PG we should have pursued in the off season was Linn.

Seems like he is playing nice in Sac- just from highlights.

Dallas last year is a big red X on him that will take a lot more than 15 games to get rid of.

Lin has passed the eye test when we played against him but still not sure that he is nearly as good as he looked against our guards.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/24/2015  2:40 PM
ramtour420 wrote:Our future as a team?

great answer

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/24/2015  3:00 PM
mreinman wrote:
franco12 wrote:the PG we should have pursued in the off season was Linn.

Seems like he is playing nice in Sac- just from highlights.

Dallas last year is a big red X on him that will take a lot more than 15 games to get rid of.

Lin has passed the eye test when we played against him but still not sure that he is nearly as good as he looked against our guards.

I like him - he is a cerebral pg with a good shot and the ability to break down defenses. He'd be an upgrade over Calderon & cheap & young.

mreinman
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11/24/2015  3:09 PM
franco12 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
franco12 wrote:the PG we should have pursued in the off season was Linn.

Seems like he is playing nice in Sac- just from highlights.

Dallas last year is a big red X on him that will take a lot more than 15 games to get rid of.

Lin has passed the eye test when we played against him but still not sure that he is nearly as good as he looked against our guards.

I like him - he is a cerebral pg with a good shot and the ability to break down defenses. He'd be an upgrade over Calderon & cheap & young.

I like hit at the price charlotte paid for him too.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/24/2015  3:11 PM
Regardless of the fact that Rondo isn't the answer, we really need to solve the PG situation next year. Not sure Grant will be ready.
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11/24/2015  3:17 PM
The Chandler trade still doesn't look good when you factor in the 7.7MM Phil added for a player that. Doesn't help the team.

Rondo is a cancer and we did a great job adding team guys and everyone is benefiting. We would be much better served waiting till the offseason using the stretch provision on Jose and bringing in a guy like mike Conley. Leader, good lockeroom guy and fits into what the team needs.

Lin was a no brainer for assurance and would have been nice to get open shots for our second unit.

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11/24/2015  3:17 PM
I understand the Rondo hate, but with Rondo Knicks are a playoff team. With Calderon, we are on the outside looking in.
clyderules
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11/24/2015  3:34 PM
You don't trade a #1 or a #2 for RentaRondo.

Phil screwed up not signing Lin for cheap.

mreinman
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11/24/2015  3:37 PM
clyderules wrote:You don't trade a #1 or a #2 for RentaRondo.

Phil screwed up not signing Lin for cheap.

if there was bad blood between him and melo then it was smart not to sign him. We need a cohesive unit.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/24/2015  3:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/24/2015  3:42 PM
Rookie wrote:I understand the Rondo hate, but with Rondo Knicks are a playoff team. With Calderon, we are on the outside looking in.

Explain to me the math that suggests a team 8-7, that has won 6 of 9 coinciding (in part) with Calderon's improved play, cannot sustain an 8-7 pace?

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11/24/2015  4:08 PM
bigbasketballs wrote:
Rookie wrote:I understand the Rondo hate, but with Rondo Knicks are a playoff team. With Calderon, we are on the outside looking in.

Explain to me the math that suggests a team 8-7, that has won 6 of 9 coinciding (in part) with Calderon's improved play, cannot sustain an 8-7 pace?

We had a good stretch where the team was hitting 3 pt'ers very timely to maintain leads. Other then that, the offense has been stagnant when the opposing team makes adjustments after the half and tightens up their defense. On the plus side, our defense has been good, except for Calderon who is a liability on that end of the court.

As far as Calderon's improved play, I guess we have low standards regarding production from the PG position. Calderon averages 7.2 PPG, 3.4 APG and 2.2 RPG. While he has been shooting a high percentage his assist nubers suck for a PG who isn't scoring and his defense is beyond non existant.

I do not think we will continue to play above .500 going forward. Rondo's imaturity asside, he is a better PG and would fit this team and contribute to wins. First off, Everyone would benefit from easy baskets because Rondo makes those passes. He has great court vision and gets defenses out of position. Having a PG who can get 10+ assists a night is an upgrade. Having a PG who is also a good rebounder and defender again, are upgrades over Calderon. Rondo also has more playoff experience then Calderon who's teams seldom make the playoffs.

All that said, Rondo is probably not a triangle guy, but then again, I am not a big fan of the way we are running the triangle. We run the same sets over and over. it is very predictable. While it is supposed to get players easier open shots, it doesn't and as teams learn our predictable sets, they are shutting us down.

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11/24/2015  4:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/24/2015  4:34 PM
I hope we are done giving up first round picks, now more valuable than ever, on dudes like Rondo AKA potential locker room cancer with definite skill however certain fatal flaws which totally negate said skills no matter how world class. I would stay FAR FAR away from Rondo in free agency and if we gave up a pick for him I might puke.

And why are we struggling to contend this season? We arent winning the championship so why mortgage the future? Wild gambles like this should _only_ be done when you have a legit shot at making and winning the finals.

bigbasketballs
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11/24/2015  4:46 PM
Rookie wrote:We had a good stretch where the team was hitting 3 pt'ers very timely to maintain leads. Other then that, the offense has been stagnant when the opposing team makes adjustments after the half and tightens up their defense.

Knicks best offensive quarter over the first 15 games has been the 3rd, by a significant margin.

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11/24/2015  5:23 PM
#1 pick for a 1 yr rental??? Remember Bargnani? Don't people ever Fukking learn??? NO MORE GIVING AWAY #1 PICKS. EVER, NEVER EVER
fishmike 9/27/2024 11:00 PM Ug I hate this. The idea of Towns is great until you see what a pussy he is. Jules is a dog. DD was a flamethrower locked up cheap for 3 more years. First Leon move I hate
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11/24/2015  5:24 PM
NO MORE trading picks...it never works for us
What would you be willing to give up in a trade for Rondo?

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