Sambakick wrote:Melo the reason we were in the game til the end.

This

But don't bother trying to explain that to Chuck and Mreinman. ChuckBuck hates Melo and the other one doesn't watch Basketball, just boxscores.

ChuckBuck wrote:Melo ISO Ball in the 4th killed us again, this time costing us with a 24 second violation.

For the love of God Fisher, draw up a different play!

I didn't watch the postgame, but does anybody ask Fisher what the deal is with all the Iso's in the 4th? Even when Melo was hot in the 3rd he still moved the ball. Fisher brought him in off the bench after an extended period on the bench and starting running Isos even though he'd almost certainly not be in rythem after sitting for what was probably close to 20-25 min of real time.

I'm not going to focus too much on the last 30 seconds. We lost this game at the start of the 4th quarter, but wtf kinda play were they running at the end. Give Melo the ball 26FT from the basket and pray? At least if ur gonna go to him get him the ball in the post or mid range so he can be in a position to succeed. This was a poorly coached game. Really disappointing loss.

SwishAndDish13 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

holfresh wrote:You guys have zero cred..How do you watch that game and your take away is Melo..The argument is just tiring..U guys are killing the board..It not intelligent anymore..

So you'd rather Melo dribble into a corner for 10 seconds then shoot a desperation fadeaway airball over a taller 6'9 defender, than you know, draw up a play like the Zeller game winner?

That's on Fisher. That was the designed play. Give the ball to Melo and everybody get the hell out of the way and watch.

Yea, especially 14 seconds of clock killing by Hose-A. Playing to lose, not to win. 24 seconds of airball turnover, but it takes Charlotte a little over 1 seconds bounce pass and gather and finish to win the game.

Stupid play call and bad execution by Melo not even looking to draw the foul going hard to the hoop.

nixluva wrote:The Knicks actually ran a LOT of very good Triangle Offense tonight. They still have work to do but it's clearly getting better.

Afflalo looked very good for a guy that has missed so much time.

KP's shot made its first appearance and it was nice to see.

There are always things we can nitpick about but this team was very close to another win. The Hornets are tough because that have some quality guards that can get by anyone and some shooters. Knicks outplayed them for most of the game.

newyorker4ever wrote:

nixluva wrote:The Knicks actually ran a LOT of very good Triangle Offense tonight. They still have work to do but it's clearly getting better.

Afflalo looked very good for a guy that has missed so much time.

KP's shot made its first appearance and it was nice to see.

There are always things we can nitpick about but this team was very close to another win. The Hornets are tough because that have some quality guards that can get by anyone and some shooters. Knicks outplayed them for most of the game.

No matter what this team does and how they look in a game there's people on here that can't wait to run to this board to complain about something. Even if we play a nearly flawless game some on here would find things to complain about. It's crazy how people forget everything that was talked about before the season even started about how there's gonna be a learning process (that's right i said it) and there's gonna be games where we look like everything has come together and then we could turn around and have two bad games in a row. I'm happy with what i've been seeing for the most part and i can see the light. That light is still a ways away but i can see it. And this isn't even the finished product of what Phil's trying to do. There will be changes to this team around the trade deadline and more in the offseason but things are looking up for my Knicks and i'm excited to watch the rest of this season and even more excited for the future.

Everyone here has realistic expectations, we all know it's a building block year. No one thinks this is a Championship contender, especially since our best all around player is only 9 games in and 20 years old. I think we can agree best case scenario we are a .500 team and make the playoffs...worst case 30 win team and gain some valuable experience for a younger core. We are ideally 3 or 4 years away from legitimate contender, and that's IF everything breaks right.

Please stop trying to tell people how to feel, react, or think. It's nauseating and condescending to real logical Knicks fans.

newyorker4ever wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Melo ISO Ball in the 4th killed us again, this time costing us with a 24 second violation.

For the love of God Fisher, draw up a different play!

You must have not watched the game! What lost us the game is the five minutes Fisher decided to play the subs with Lou at PF. That was a bad decision, because we really had no one on the floor we could have dumped the ball and ask to create. The second unit is much better when Williams is part of it. His athleticism and slashing ability are valuable and need to be put to better use. I notice that Fisher does not really trust him; as such, he has not used him as he should

I said on game thread, it's on Fish subs and Melo Hero ISO Ball. 50/50 blame.

Fish waited until it was too close to sub, and Melo only had 5 points in the 4th and a crucial 24 second violation airball. Forget the 29 points, it's when you score that counts.

Both blew chunks.

If you watched that last play Melo lost control of the ball and ended up putting himself in a bad position to put up a shot with time running out so it was just a mistake. I have zero problem with Melo taking the last shot cause he's proven. There's also a couple other guys i wouldn't m ind taking the last shot but Melo is at the top of the list.

Just a bad play and worst execution. There are better options:

Throw the ball to KP, let him shoot it, hit a cutter, or let him drive to the hoop facing up, to try and draw a foul.

Melo ISO hasn't hit a game winner in years. Last game winners was JR when he hit 2 game winners during the 54 win season.

ChuckBuck wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knicks1969 wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:Melo ISO Ball in the 4th killed us again, this time costing us with a 24 second violation.

For the love of God Fisher, draw up a different play!

You must have not watched the game! What lost us the game is the five minutes Fisher decided to play the subs with Lou at PF. That was a bad decision, because we really had no one on the floor we could have dumped the ball and ask to create. The second unit is much better when Williams is part of it. His athleticism and slashing ability are valuable and need to be put to better use. I notice that Fisher does not really trust him; as such, he has not used him as he should

I said on game thread, it's on Fish subs and Melo Hero ISO Ball. 50/50 blame.

Fish waited until it was too close to sub, and Melo only had 5 points in the 4th and a crucial 24 second violation airball. Forget the 29 points, it's when you score that counts.

Both blew chunks.

If you watched that last play Melo lost control of the ball and ended up putting himself in a bad position to put up a shot with time running out so it was just a mistake. I have zero problem with Melo taking the last shot cause he's proven. There's also a couple other guys i wouldn't m ind taking the last shot but Melo is at the top of the list.

Just a bad play and worst execution. There are better options:

Throw the ball to KP, let him shoot it, hit a cutter, or let him drive to the hoop facing up, to try and draw a foul.

Melo ISO hasn't hit a game winner in years. Last game winners was JR when he hit 2 game winners during the 54 win season.