| Author | Thread |
| AUTOADVERT |
|
babyKnicks
Posts: 22486 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/31/2006 Member: #1191 USA |
11/16/2015 11:09 AM
This isn't fantasy kings. We have more than enough capable guards. Shved also wanted more money. Let's all agree to think before we post. :-)
Let's go Knicks. That's amare
|
|
blkexec
Posts: 28348 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
11/16/2015 11:17 AM LAST EDITED: 11/16/2015 2:05 PM
mreinman wrote:blkexec wrote:mreinman wrote:blkexec wrote:mreinman wrote:Hopefully fisher saw enough and put in Lou. Zach Randolph was a black hole so we shipped him. Now he's one of the best PFs in a tough western conference. Ok4 was a black hole and he was the 3rd pick and might be rookie of the year averaging 20. Kobe....melo....I can go on and on. You can't be a low post scorer and not be selfish. The problem you were having is when Seraphin missed all those attempts he normally make. But when he makes them like last night he becomes our second best big man. Now his IQ is in question....I agree. But I think every good team needs a few selfish scorers on their team. Everybody can't be unselfish. We only have two of them....melo and seraphin. That's a nice balance surrounded by hustle team guys who plays the right way. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
|
|
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34067 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
11/16/2015 11:23 AM
babyKnicks wrote:This isn't fantasy kings. We have more than enough capable guards. Shved also wanted more money. Let's all agree to think before we post. :-) the guy who can't read is being a smart ass--go figure "Combo guard Alexey Shved lobbied for the $2.8 million exception from the Knicks, telling them he would bypass playing in Europe if they offered it to him. Instead, the Knicks offered Shved the minimum contract." http://nypost.com/2015/10/30/kevin-seraphins-knicks-debut-nears-but-with-what-role/ DLeethal wrote:
Lol Rick needs a safe space
|
|
Nalod
Posts: 71379 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
11/16/2015 1:20 PM
Make it seem that a black hole is a bad thing?
|
|
mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
11/16/2015 1:21 PM
Nalod wrote:Make it seem that a black hole is a bad thing? creepy so here is what phil is thinking ....
|
|
blkexec
Posts: 28348 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
11/17/2015 8:16 AM
Seraphin is the key tonight. Will he continue to use the Paris situation as motivation? Has he finally developed a role on this team, as the post scoring option off the bench? Is it safe to say if Seraphin has another solid game during the 2nd half, we should win. One of our major flaws is scoring in the 4th quarter, and he can help balance the scoring attack with Melo, since Fisher likes to keep KP on the bench for some reason.
Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
|
|
martin
Posts: 76529 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
11/17/2015 11:38 AM
blkexec wrote:Seraphin is the key tonight. Will he continue to use the Paris situation as motivation? Has he finally developed a role on this team, as the post scoring option off the bench? Is it safe to say if Seraphin has another solid game during the 2nd half, we should win. One of our major flaws is scoring in the 4th quarter, and he can help balance the scoring attack with Melo, since Fisher likes to keep KP on the bench for some reason. Noticed this. I wonder if it's part of their longer, strategic plan with KP regarding minutes and wear and tear over the long haul of the season. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
|
|
blkexec
Posts: 28348 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/3/2004 Member: #748 |
11/17/2015 12:58 PM
martin wrote:blkexec wrote:Seraphin is the key tonight. Will he continue to use the Paris situation as motivation? Has he finally developed a role on this team, as the post scoring option off the bench? Is it safe to say if Seraphin has another solid game during the 2nd half, we should win. One of our major flaws is scoring in the 4th quarter, and he can help balance the scoring attack with Melo, since Fisher likes to keep KP on the bench for some reason. I think it's that plus a way for KP to learn from the vets in crutch time. I know thats BS, but it's an old school way of teaching and Fisher has been groomed by an old school teacher. I'm sure KP will eventually fill that void, as he gets stronger and wiser. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
The future is bright, I'm a Knicks fan for life!
|
|
fishmike
Posts: 53867 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
11/17/2015 12:59 PM
martin wrote:25 mins per game feels about right. He's also shooting like 38% so as long as that continues other guys should continue to get a shot. Ive also seen KP get winded as well.blkexec wrote:Seraphin is the key tonight. Will he continue to use the Paris situation as motivation? Has he finally developed a role on this team, as the post scoring option off the bench? Is it safe to say if Seraphin has another solid game during the 2nd half, we should win. One of our major flaws is scoring in the 4th quarter, and he can help balance the scoring attack with Melo, since Fisher likes to keep KP on the bench for some reason. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
|
|
fitzfarm
Posts: 25165 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
11/17/2015 1:12 PM
I have to say saraphin should be playing back up center minutes... But he had to earn it, but what happened to koq.. I think koq gets alittle overwhelmed playing center... I wanna see a second unit of-
Saraphin O'quinn Dwill Gallo Grant And I wanna see it consistently with spot minutes going to LT,and Lou when one of these guys are off also we can't forget about early.
|
|
Nalod
Posts: 71379 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
11/17/2015 1:14 PM
I think we should keep throwing out suggestions for Fish to enact with the thought we are not accountable and thus can't be held responsible but unless the team wins, we can blame Fish no not doing things.
|
|
herkyJerky
Posts: 20704 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/10/2015 Member: #6155 USA |
11/17/2015 1:20 PM
Nalod wrote:I think we should keep throwing out suggestions for Fish to enact with the thought we are not accountable and thus can't be held responsible but unless the team wins, we can blame Fish no not doing things. Hahahaaaaa. If it ain't broke, don't break it. - Charles 'The REAL Sir Charles' Oakley.
|
|
herkyJerky
Posts: 20704 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/10/2015 Member: #6155 USA |
11/17/2015 1:30 PM
But seriously, hopefully Seraphin's defense will be okay enough for Coach to want him to stay in. He's got really nice passing skills, when he actually does pass. Any time he's not fed the ball in a post up situation there's a really good chance he'll make a pass to someone slashing to the basket, if that kind of play is executed. He did it a bunch of times in pre-season. He does kind of become a black hole when he's fed the ball down in the deep post, but I'm okay with that as long as he makes enough of those shots or at least draws fouls. Hopefully he just won't be too stubborn to kick it out to someone getting into an open position for an outside shot if the situation presents itself. It'd be nice to have Seraphin and O'Q battling for minutes. That should inspire them to try and give their best performance on a game to game basis. I know that consistency in rotation is important, but doing it this way could work to, at least while it's still pretty early in the season and we're winning a decent amount of games.
If it ain't broke, don't break it. - Charles 'The REAL Sir Charles' Oakley.
|
|
BigDaddyG
Posts: 39945 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
11/17/2015 1:35 PM
Seraphin is reminding me of a modern day Eddie Lee Wilkins. Ye looks good when he's hitting that hook shot at a decent rate,but he has too many holes in his game get consistent rotation minutes. You leave him in when he's playing well and you yank him when he looks overwhelmed.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
|
|
fitzfarm
Posts: 25165 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
11/17/2015 1:40 PM
herkyJerky wrote:But seriously, hopefully Seraphin's defense will be okay enough for Coach to want him to stay in. He's got really nice passing skills, when he actually does pass. Any time he's not fed the ball in a post up situation there's a really good chance he'll make a pass to someone slashing to the basket, if that kind of play is executed. He did it a bunch of times in pre-season. He does kind of become a black hole when he's fed the ball down in the deep post, but I'm okay with that as long as he makes enough of those shots or at least draws fouls. Hopefully he just won't be too stubborn to kick it out to someone getting into an open position for an outside shot if the situation presents itself. It'd be nice to have Seraphin and O'Q battling for minutes. That should inspire them to try and give their best performance on a game to game basis. I know that consistency in rotation is important, but doing it this way could work to, at least while it's still pretty early in the season and we're winning a decent amount of games. True, I think saraphin's passing ability has been overlooked his whole career he has always been able to pass out of the post... But I really would like to see O'quinn at his natural position the 4 and he really has a nice mid range jumper that's why I think saraphin and O'quinn could work really well together. Getting O'quinn comfortable in the mid range is important he can pass or hit the open jumper like Oakley used to do and crash the boards when the shot goes up.. Again I think a second unit of saraphin,O'quinn,dwill,Gallo,grant is putting the most talent out on the floor for the second unit.. Not that I don't appreciate LT and Lou's hustle and defense, because of there lack of talent they can be easily over matched on a nightly basis... Also dwill needs more minutes to get into his scoring rhythm. |
|
fitzfarm
Posts: 25165 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
11/17/2015 2:03 PM
Nalod wrote:I think we should keep throwing out suggestions for Fish to enact with the thought we are not accountable and thus can't be held responsible but unless the team wins, we can blame Fish no not doing things. So you must like seeing less talent on the floor on a nightly basis... Those guys LT,Lou even Sasha are all spot minute players ... A lot of my friends agree with this and most of them are blown away with fish's inconsistent rotation.. Again not that I don't like LT or Lou for there hustle ... But it's pretty defeating to players with more talent like o Quinn,saraphin,dwill when guys like Lou and Lance are getting more minutes . Also my only problem with fish is his inconsistent rotation.. I'm not the only one who sees this, it's been spoken about Many times on the post game.. Wally and haun have both been very critical of his random rotation. Other then the rotation I think fish has this group ballin at a very high level.. And once he gets his rotation down I think we can be in playoff contention... We have a very talented group of guys ! |
|
mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
11/17/2015 2:28 PM
I predict that Seraphin will suck tonight ... lets see
so here is what phil is thinking ....
|
|
martin
Posts: 76529 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
11/17/2015 2:50 PM
fitzfarm wrote:herkyJerky wrote:But seriously, hopefully Seraphin's defense will be okay enough for Coach to want him to stay in. He's got really nice passing skills, when he actually does pass. Any time he's not fed the ball in a post up situation there's a really good chance he'll make a pass to someone slashing to the basket, if that kind of play is executed. He did it a bunch of times in pre-season. He does kind of become a black hole when he's fed the ball down in the deep post, but I'm okay with that as long as he makes enough of those shots or at least draws fouls. Hopefully he just won't be too stubborn to kick it out to someone getting into an open position for an outside shot if the situation presents itself. It'd be nice to have Seraphin and O'Q battling for minutes. That should inspire them to try and give their best performance on a game to game basis. I know that consistency in rotation is important, but doing it this way could work to, at least while it's still pretty early in the season and we're winning a decent amount of games. The one thing about KOQ at the 4 is that he is very slow to rotate out to the perimeter. Slow feet on recovery too. Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
|
|
fitzfarm
Posts: 25165 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
11/17/2015 2:54 PM
martin wrote:fitzfarm wrote:herkyJerky wrote:But seriously, hopefully Seraphin's defense will be okay enough for Coach to want him to stay in. He's got really nice passing skills, when he actually does pass. Any time he's not fed the ball in a post up situation there's a really good chance he'll make a pass to someone slashing to the basket, if that kind of play is executed. He did it a bunch of times in pre-season. He does kind of become a black hole when he's fed the ball down in the deep post, but I'm okay with that as long as he makes enough of those shots or at least draws fouls. Hopefully he just won't be too stubborn to kick it out to someone getting into an open position for an outside shot if the situation presents itself. It'd be nice to have Seraphin and O'Q battling for minutes. That should inspire them to try and give their best performance on a game to game basis. I know that consistency in rotation is important, but doing it this way could work to, at least while it's still pretty early in the season and we're winning a decent amount of games. That would be my worry as well, but I still think it's worth a look... KOQ seems to have lost his mojo but maybe he's not being used correctly... Or he's just outta shape and needs to hit the gym |