I did the "Case of Porzingis" thread before the draft, and made some comments about defensive potential, but nothing in the many video's I had watched made me think that he would be this advanced defensively this early against NBA level competition.

Does he still make some rookie mistakes on D...yup, but his movement and awareness on D, which was evident a bit in SL, has been pretty amazing.

He holds his own down low, seems to learn and adjust as the game goes on, is deceptively quick in getting to where he wants to go defensively.

There was one play where one of the Spurs drove left trying to take a baseline route to the hoop against one of the Knicks' guards. KP made one or two sidesteps to the right, showing he would be there to help his teammate, and when the Spurs' player stopped, KP immediately moved left, and had his arms extended waiting for a possible kickout pass to his man.

I have 0% concern that his offense will come around, but his defensive presence alone makes it necessary to have him on the court as often as possible.

Most of Aldridge's points came when KP was out of the game, by the way. You can make a case that in yesterday's game, Porzingis outplayed one of the most sought after FA players signed this year, and a guy who plays the same position he does.

Four games into his NBA career and we are already seeing things from him that many of the so called experts- and a lot of guys on this board- did not think he would be able to do for 3 or 4 years.

Hope the injury is minor- would love to see him play against the Cavs, not sure that is going to happen, though.

WaltLongmire wrote:Who would have thought that at this point we would be talking about KP and his D, while doing more complaining about his offensive game.

I did the "Case of Porzingis" thread before the draft, and made some comments about defensive potential, but nothing in the many video's I had watched made me think that he would be this advanced defensively this early against NBA level competition.

Does he still make some rookie mistakes on D...yup, but his movement and awareness on D, which was evident a bit in SL, has been pretty amazing.

He holds his own down low, seems to learn and adjust as the game goes on, is deceptively quick in getting to where he wants to go defensively.

There was one play where one of the Spurs drove left trying to take a baseline route to the hoop against one of the Knicks' guards. KP made one or two sidesteps to the right, showing he would be there to help his teammate, and when the Spurs' player stopped, KP immediately moved left, and had his arms extended waiting for a possible kickout pass to his man.

I have 0% concern that his offense will come around, but his defensive presence alone makes it necessary to have him on the court as often as possible.

Most of Aldridge's points came when KP was out of the game, by the way. You can make a case that in yesterday's game, Porzingis outplayed one of the most sought after FA players signed this year, and a guy who plays the same position he does.

Four games into his NBA career and we are already seeing things from him that many of the so called experts- and a lot of guys on this board- did not think he would be able to do for 3 or 4 years.

Hope the injury is minor- would love to see him play against the Cavs, not sure that is going to happen, though.

I too wanted porzingis the closer we got to the draft! I'd have to say his Europe highlights don't do him justice.. His game is evolving with all his hard work... His ability to quickly adjust and learn is outstanding ... The best part is we are saying this 4 games into the season! Can't wait to see what we are saying at the half way point! I think his neck will be fine, he even said after the game that the pain had subsided... Excited to see him own Kevin love, I could see him blocking Lebron repeatedly

WaltLongmire wrote:Who would have thought that at this point we would be talking about KP and his D, while doing more complaining about his offensive game.

I did the "Case of Porzingis" thread before the draft, and made some comments about defensive potential, but nothing in the many video's I had watched made me think that he would be this advanced defensively this early against NBA level competition.

Does he still make some rookie mistakes on D...yup, but his movement and awareness on D, which was evident a bit in SL, has been pretty amazing.

He holds his own down low, seems to learn and adjust as the game goes on, is deceptively quick in getting to where he wants to go defensively.

There was one play where one of the Spurs drove left trying to take a baseline route to the hoop against one of the Knicks' guards. KP made one or two sidesteps to the right, showing he would be there to help his teammate, and when the Spurs' player stopped, KP immediately moved left, and had his arms extended waiting for a possible kickout pass to his man.

I have 0% concern that his offense will come around, but his defensive presence alone makes it necessary to have him on the court as often as possible.

Most of Aldridge's points came when KP was out of the game, by the way. You can make a case that in yesterday's game, Porzingis outplayed one of the most sought after FA players signed this year, and a guy who plays the same position he does.

Four games into his NBA career and we are already seeing things from him that many of the so called experts- and a lot of guys on this board- did not think he would be able to do for 3 or 4 years.

Hope the injury is minor- would love to see him play against the Cavs, not sure that is going to happen, though.

WaltLongmire wrote:Who would have thought that at this point we would be talking about KP and his D, while doing more complaining about his offensive game.

I did the "Case of Porzingis" thread before the draft, and made some comments about defensive potential, but nothing in the many video's I had watched made me think that he would be this advanced defensively this early against NBA level competition.

Does he still make some rookie mistakes on D...yup, but his movement and awareness on D, which was evident a bit in SL, has been pretty amazing.

He holds his own down low, seems to learn and adjust as the game goes on, is deceptively quick in getting to where he wants to go defensively.

There was one play where one of the Spurs drove left trying to take a baseline route to the hoop against one of the Knicks' guards. KP made one or two sidesteps to the right, showing he would be there to help his teammate, and when the Spurs' player stopped, KP immediately moved left, and had his arms extended waiting for a possible kickout pass to his man.

I have 0% concern that his offense will come around, but his defensive presence alone makes it necessary to have him on the court as often as possible.

Most of Aldridge's points came when KP was out of the game, by the way. You can make a case that in yesterday's game, Porzingis outplayed one of the most sought after FA players signed this year, and a guy who plays the same position he does.

Four games into his NBA career and we are already seeing things from him that many of the so called experts- and a lot of guys on this board- did not think he would be able to do for 3 or 4 years.

Hope the injury is minor- would love to see him play against the Cavs, not sure that is going to happen, though.

there were posters on here calling for us trading the pick for aldridge. Beyond silly.

fitzfarm wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Who would have thought that at this point we would be talking about KP and his D, while doing more complaining about his offensive game.

I did the "Case of Porzingis" thread before the draft, and made some comments about defensive potential, but nothing in the many video's I had watched made me think that he would be this advanced defensively this early against NBA level competition.

Does he still make some rookie mistakes on D...yup, but his movement and awareness on D, which was evident a bit in SL, has been pretty amazing.

He holds his own down low, seems to learn and adjust as the game goes on, is deceptively quick in getting to where he wants to go defensively.

There was one play where one of the Spurs drove left trying to take a baseline route to the hoop against one of the Knicks' guards. KP made one or two sidesteps to the right, showing he would be there to help his teammate, and when the Spurs' player stopped, KP immediately moved left, and had his arms extended waiting for a possible kickout pass to his man.

I have 0% concern that his offense will come around, but his defensive presence alone makes it necessary to have him on the court as often as possible.

Most of Aldridge's points came when KP was out of the game, by the way. You can make a case that in yesterday's game, Porzingis outplayed one of the most sought after FA players signed this year, and a guy who plays the same position he does.

Four games into his NBA career and we are already seeing things from him that many of the so called experts- and a lot of guys on this board- did not think he would be able to do for 3 or 4 years.

Hope the injury is minor- would love to see him play against the Cavs, not sure that is going to happen, though.

I too wanted porzingis the closer we got to the draft! I'd have to say his Europe highlights don't do him justice.. His game is evolving with all his hard work... His ability to quickly adjust and learn is outstanding ... The best part is we are saying this 4 games into the season! Can't wait to see what we are saying at the half way point! I think his neck will be fine, he even said after the game that the pain had subsided... Excited to see him own Kevin love, I could see him blocking Lebron repeatedly

I know there were some of us who were happy to draft him- I think he actually won the poll we did, but I know I was always saying something about having to wait a number of years to really see what he could do.

I figured he would be more of a stretch 4, and like many, I wondered about how he would do down low and as a rebounder. Did think he would be a good help defender in terms of shot blocking.

Very surprised with his defensive rebounding, and he is also very active on the offensive boards tipping the ball. I did see him boxing out pretty well in his Euro clips, but at the lighter weight he sometimes had trouble holding his position. He's boxing out quickly and is not afraid to body up on opponents, and he's long enough when tied up to either tip the ball or gather it in.

Playing against Love should be interesting. I'm not going to make any predictions about him blocking James repeatedly, though...don't want to anger the BB gods, who we all know favor King James.

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Who would have thought that at this point we would be talking about KP and his D, while doing more complaining about his offensive game.

I did the "Case of Porzingis" thread before the draft, and made some comments about defensive potential, but nothing in the many video's I had watched made me think that he would be this advanced defensively this early against NBA level competition.

Does he still make some rookie mistakes on D...yup, but his movement and awareness on D, which was evident a bit in SL, has been pretty amazing.

He holds his own down low, seems to learn and adjust as the game goes on, is deceptively quick in getting to where he wants to go defensively.

There was one play where one of the Spurs drove left trying to take a baseline route to the hoop against one of the Knicks' guards. KP made one or two sidesteps to the right, showing he would be there to help his teammate, and when the Spurs' player stopped, KP immediately moved left, and had his arms extended waiting for a possible kickout pass to his man.

I have 0% concern that his offense will come around, but his defensive presence alone makes it necessary to have him on the court as often as possible.

Most of Aldridge's points came when KP was out of the game, by the way. You can make a case that in yesterday's game, Porzingis outplayed one of the most sought after FA players signed this year, and a guy who plays the same position he does.

Four games into his NBA career and we are already seeing things from him that many of the so called experts- and a lot of guys on this board- did not think he would be able to do for 3 or 4 years.

Hope the injury is minor- would love to see him play against the Cavs, not sure that is going to happen, though.

there were posters on here calling for us trading the pick for aldridge. Beyond silly.

I don't remember 1 instance of that

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Who would have thought that at this point we would be talking about KP and his D, while doing more complaining about his offensive game.

I did the "Case of Porzingis" thread before the draft, and made some comments about defensive potential, but nothing in the many video's I had watched made me think that he would be this advanced defensively this early against NBA level competition.

Does he still make some rookie mistakes on D...yup, but his movement and awareness on D, which was evident a bit in SL, has been pretty amazing.

He holds his own down low, seems to learn and adjust as the game goes on, is deceptively quick in getting to where he wants to go defensively.

There was one play where one of the Spurs drove left trying to take a baseline route to the hoop against one of the Knicks' guards. KP made one or two sidesteps to the right, showing he would be there to help his teammate, and when the Spurs' player stopped, KP immediately moved left, and had his arms extended waiting for a possible kickout pass to his man.

I have 0% concern that his offense will come around, but his defensive presence alone makes it necessary to have him on the court as often as possible.

Most of Aldridge's points came when KP was out of the game, by the way. You can make a case that in yesterday's game, Porzingis outplayed one of the most sought after FA players signed this year, and a guy who plays the same position he does.

Four games into his NBA career and we are already seeing things from him that many of the so called experts- and a lot of guys on this board- did not think he would be able to do for 3 or 4 years.

Hope the injury is minor- would love to see him play against the Cavs, not sure that is going to happen, though.

there were posters on here calling for us trading the pick for aldridge. Beyond silly.

I don't remember 1 instance of that

I do. I am even sure who it was.

1 person makes a beyond silly post and you you feel the need to highlight it?

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Who would have thought that at this point we would be talking about KP and his D, while doing more complaining about his offensive game.

I did the "Case of Porzingis" thread before the draft, and made some comments about defensive potential, but nothing in the many video's I had watched made me think that he would be this advanced defensively this early against NBA level competition.

Does he still make some rookie mistakes on D...yup, but his movement and awareness on D, which was evident a bit in SL, has been pretty amazing.

He holds his own down low, seems to learn and adjust as the game goes on, is deceptively quick in getting to where he wants to go defensively.

There was one play where one of the Spurs drove left trying to take a baseline route to the hoop against one of the Knicks' guards. KP made one or two sidesteps to the right, showing he would be there to help his teammate, and when the Spurs' player stopped, KP immediately moved left, and had his arms extended waiting for a possible kickout pass to his man.

I have 0% concern that his offense will come around, but his defensive presence alone makes it necessary to have him on the court as often as possible.

Most of Aldridge's points came when KP was out of the game, by the way. You can make a case that in yesterday's game, Porzingis outplayed one of the most sought after FA players signed this year, and a guy who plays the same position he does.

Four games into his NBA career and we are already seeing things from him that many of the so called experts- and a lot of guys on this board- did not think he would be able to do for 3 or 4 years.

Hope the injury is minor- would love to see him play against the Cavs, not sure that is going to happen, though.

there were posters on here calling for us trading the pick for aldridge. Beyond silly.

I don't remember 1 instance of that

I do. I am even sure who it was.

1 person makes a beyond silly post and you you feel the need to highlight it?

It was more than one (there were lots of discussions around such silly trade talks) and I did not call anybody out on it so I am not sure why you are coming after me on this one.

There are many more silly posts out there than this one.

Cause your post has nothing to do with anything. Walt brought some very good points up about KP and you brought up some silliness that has nothing to do with anything. Don't blather on man, bring something up that is pertinent.

mreinman wrote:screw this guy ... get me mudiay

TPercy wrote:It is amazing, in Summer league he couldn't catch a rebound to save his life against glorified D league competiton, now he is grabbing 14 rebounds against the spurs. His improvement curve is awesome.

Another I really like that Walt adressed is how much confidence and motivation he incites to everyone rooting for the Knicks, including for the players. The crowd roars with excitement and suddenly the players feel a lot more urgency to get back into the game or to preserve a lead. Great player.