fishmike wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Id like to see a little less Melo and more D Williams. I think Fischer has kind of reigned in Williams for free lance play but I think its a mistake. Hes the 6th man--he needs a little creativity and passion--let him play 24-26 and do his thing. I seem him trying to rebound play defense and even pass. He can handle and creates energy. I havent seen anything wrong with Derrick. We are giving too much to Melo---I dont think Fischer is a the right good coach--he hasnt show that yet.

Yes. DWill needs to take over Melo's minutes. Melo can't play 30+ without gassing and bricking shots. DWill has unlimited 25 year old motor.

That would be the prudent thing to do, let's see how Fish handles that slippery slope. If he has the testicles, then it could swing the paradigm shift from a Melo-centric offense, to a true teamball concept, and speed the renovation for all the younger players. It puts a stamp and trademark as Fisher's first true coaching conundrum, but at the same time, it's the right move, since we ain't winning a chip while Melo's here. It'd force Melo to waive his no trade clause, and all parties are relieved.

Let's see if Fisher has the scrotum to do it!

like 35 minutes vs. Wash when he was hitting clutch shots down the stretch? Another anti-Melo fail.

Good dig! I fail big time...

Melo only has one good game in 4, joke's on me...

BigDaddyG wrote:

Nalod wrote:After 4 games we have assumptions. Fans are funny.

We have four years in the case of Williams. He's an exciting player when he's on, but he needs consistency. If not, he'll end up like Chris Moris, Tim Thomas, Darius Miles, Anthony Randolph and all the other talented teases that fan boys keep bringing years after their primes have past. I can forgive the bone head plays if he gives a more consistent effort on D and the back boards.

We can speculate. Perhaps Coach pulled his ass when he deviates from the plan.
The bone head is not easily removed.

Or he has a boo boo?

blkexec wrote:I was worried about this. Dwill was motivated for obvious reasons, during the beginning of preseason and the regular season. Now that the motivation of starting a new beginning is gone, where will Dwill get his motivation from? I think thats been his problem for his entire career.

Same with Melo....He was motivated against the Wizzards due to them saying he's overrated. Well, the spurs are not the social media types....they don't throw players under the bus, before a game. So Melo needs to find his own motivation.

This is a typical problem for all individuals who lose their passion. This is why most players turn it up before the playoffs. This is also why you have superstars and wanna be stars and roll players. Superstars are consistently motivated to perform every game. Melo needs somebody to talk about his wife, which doesn't happen all the time. I'm sure he will turn it up......So will D.Will......The question is will he be consistently motivated to perform every game? His history suggest not. Lets hope he uses his negative history as future motivation.

nothing to do with motivation. Dwil is having a problem fitting in to this offense as many have expected. We are going to find out if his brain can handle this.

I think that he will be on and off at best and that he may never actually play in the offense flow but more as a freelancer.

knicks1248 wrote:To be honest, I don't think Fisher is a big fan of DWILL, during the post game reports after a few of the preseason games when the media was praising his play, fisher brushed it off as a avg display. He was more critical of what he was doing wrong the what he did right.

At the same post game conference, he praise the hell out of KP, who actually had 1/10th of the game dwill had. So i actually think there's a little more to his reduction in minutes then his over all play

I don't take it that way. Every player is treated a bit differently, depending on their weaknesses and expectations and what they have been working on in practice and what the coaches have told them to work on.

Dwill is a vet who needs prodding and needs to be doing the defensive and smart things on the court.

Don't take sound bites to heart too much

ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Id like to see a little less Melo and more D Williams. I think Fischer has kind of reigned in Williams for free lance play but I think its a mistake. Hes the 6th man--he needs a little creativity and passion--let him play 24-26 and do his thing. I seem him trying to rebound play defense and even pass. He can handle and creates energy. I havent seen anything wrong with Derrick. We are giving too much to Melo---I dont think Fischer is a the right good coach--he hasnt show that yet.

Yes. DWill needs to take over Melo's minutes. Melo can't play 30+ without gassing and bricking shots. DWill has unlimited 25 year old motor.

That would be the prudent thing to do, let's see how Fish handles that slippery slope. If he has the testicles, then it could swing the paradigm shift from a Melo-centric offense, to a true teamball concept, and speed the renovation for all the younger players. It puts a stamp and trademark as Fisher's first true coaching conundrum, but at the same time, it's the right move, since we ain't winning a chip while Melo's here. It'd force Melo to waive his no trade clause, and all parties are relieved.

Let's see if Fisher has the scrotum to do it!

like 35 minutes vs. Wash when he was hitting clutch shots down the stretch? Another anti-Melo fail.

Good dig! I fail big time...

Melo only has one good game in 4, joke's on me...

Right, or in the Bucks game when Me70's shot isn't falling and he manages 5 assists and 6 rebounds 1 block and a steal in a blowout win where he takes all of 5 shots in the second half, yeah, jokes on you.

DWill's managed one great game out of four and you'll cream all over him with "Melo's minutes".

It is what it is though.

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:In 4 games his numbers look like THJ, 11pg 3 rbs .05 ast. His first instinct is to score, and on defense, he uses his athletic ability more than his brains.

He isn't respecting the game enough, he needs to play smarter, and little more calmer. You like his aggressiveness, but he needs to have a balance, nothing works well for long without balance.

This

And now you see why so many people questioned the signing. He's getting out rebounded by Langston Galloway for crissakes. I liked how Fish pulled him out early in last night's game to get him to calm down

He is not playing that many minutes but his per36 numbers(25.5pts, 6.6 rebs, and 1.1 ast) look nothing like Hardaway's. Those umbers will fluctuate as the season goes on though. He has a long way to go to play his way out of his past perception.

BRIGGS wrote:Id like to see a little less Melo and more D Williams. I think Fischer has kind of reigned in Williams for free lance play but I think its a mistake. Hes the 6th man--he needs a little creativity and passion--let him play 24-26 and do his thing. I seem him trying to rebound play defense and even pass. He can handle and creates energy. I havent seen anything wrong with Derrick. We are giving too much to Melo---I dont think Fischer is a the right good coach--he hasnt show that yet.

i agree with you on the derrick williams freedom... let him become the manu ginobili of our team.

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:To be honest, I don't think Fisher is a big fan of DWILL, during the post game reports after a few of the preseason games when the media was praising his play, fisher brushed it off as a avg display. He was more critical of what he was doing wrong the what he did right.

At the same post game conference, he praise the hell out of KP, who actually had 1/10th of the game dwill had. So i actually think there's a little more to his reduction in minutes then his over all play

I don't take it that way. Every player is treated a bit differently, depending on their weaknesses and expectations and what they have been working on in practice and what the coaches have told them to work on.

Dwill is a vet who needs prodding and needs to be doing the defensive and smart things on the court.

Don't take sound bites to heart too much

I'm not, but I am concern about how they actually want to use him, that's clearly the difference maker, for him and the team. I think it's extremely important to put him in the right role or you won't benefit from his skill set