martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:http://nypost.com/2015/11/01/have-the-knicks-abandoned-the-triangle-offense/

Derek Fisher swears he’s still employing the triangle offense, but triangle innovator Tex Winter might have a tough time deciphering it.

As reported, the Knicks are playing at a faster pace, trying to get easy buckets before setting up in a half-court format. But even in half court, Wizards superstar point guard John Wall claims there is a tremendous difference and not so much triangle.

“They are not running the same offense as last year,’’ Wall said after the Knicks blitzed the Wizards 117-110 Saturday. “They added some more pace to their game, they run a lot more pick and rolls and put us in tough situations where we had to rotate, and they were getting offensive rebounds and putbacks.’’

Wall went on to say the defense Washington ran last season against the Knicks didn’t work Saturday because of the changes. The Wizards also didn’t have their head coach, Randy Wittman, until the second quarter. He had attended the Flip Saunders memorial service.

Knicks small forward Cleanthony Early told The Post the triangle was taught in a completely different way in training camp, and methods getting into it had changed. The Knicks were last in the NBA in scoring last season at 91.4 points per game. In two of their first three games, they’ve racked up 122 and 117 points.

Fisher seems defensive over criticism after he coached the Knicks to a 2-1 finish last season with triumphs in Orlando and Atlanta, costing them the top lottery seed. Minnesota, whose GM/coach was Saunders, lost its final 12 games to earn the best odds of landing the No. 1 pick. The Timberwolves then won the lottery and selected Rookie of the Year favorite Karl-Anthony Towns.

Fisher said he thinks the method of trying to win late last season has carried over.

“As difficult as last year was for us, a lot of what we are seeing this year still has to do with the foundation that was built during those difficulties last year,’’ Fisher said. “The fact we did not want to practice losing by losing intentionally down the stretch of last season and actually building a mindset every time we step on the court and you wear a Knicks uniform, there is a certain way you are supposed to play.’’

Monday is the lone visit this season by new Spurs power forward LaMarcus Aldridge, whose meeting with the Knicks got called off in July.

The Knicks wanted to sign a center to play alongside Kristaps Porzingis, and Aldridge didn’t think he would be a good fit as a pivot. The Knicks eventually decided meeting Aldridge was a waste of time and canceled.

Aldridge has averaged 15 points in his three games with the 2-1 Spurs. Carmelo Anthony said in August he had spoken with Aldridge and thought they had a real chance to land the former Trail Blazer.

I hate this article. Berman poses a question and then does a fluff piece where he quotes Wall who really has nothing to say on the subject outside of the obvious and then Berman regurgitates a Cleanthony talking point that has been brought up many times before. So, essentially Berman offers nothing. No added research, no added opinion of his own, nothing. And he tangents three times, about Wittman, about winning a few games at end of last season (what's this like the 20th time in the last month Post needed filler in their "aricles"?) and then about LaMarcus (and the Aldridge stuff was also regurgitated). Awesome work.

To die hards it's old news, but to some casual fans who don't follow the teams daily articles as much, it might be note worthy.

WaltLongmire wrote:

martin wrote:

mreinman wrote:http://nypost.com/2015/11/01/have-the-knicks-abandoned-the-triangle-offense/

Derek Fisher swears he’s still employing the triangle offense, but triangle innovator Tex Winter might have a tough time deciphering it.

As reported, the Knicks are playing at a faster pace, trying to get easy buckets before setting up in a half-court format. But even in half court, Wizards superstar point guard John Wall claims there is a tremendous difference and not so much triangle.

“They are not running the same offense as last year,’’ Wall said after the Knicks blitzed the Wizards 117-110 Saturday. “They added some more pace to their game, they run a lot more pick and rolls and put us in tough situations where we had to rotate, and they were getting offensive rebounds and putbacks.’’

Wall went on to say the defense Washington ran last season against the Knicks didn’t work Saturday because of the changes. The Wizards also didn’t have their head coach, Randy Wittman, until the second quarter. He had attended the Flip Saunders memorial service.

Knicks small forward Cleanthony Early told The Post the triangle was taught in a completely different way in training camp, and methods getting into it had changed. The Knicks were last in the NBA in scoring last season at 91.4 points per game. In two of their first three games, they’ve racked up 122 and 117 points.

Fisher seems defensive over criticism after he coached the Knicks to a 2-1 finish last season with triumphs in Orlando and Atlanta, costing them the top lottery seed. Minnesota, whose GM/coach was Saunders, lost its final 12 games to earn the best odds of landing the No. 1 pick. The Timberwolves then won the lottery and selected Rookie of the Year favorite Karl-Anthony Towns.

Fisher said he thinks the method of trying to win late last season has carried over.

“As difficult as last year was for us, a lot of what we are seeing this year still has to do with the foundation that was built during those difficulties last year,’’ Fisher said. “The fact we did not want to practice losing by losing intentionally down the stretch of last season and actually building a mindset every time we step on the court and you wear a Knicks uniform, there is a certain way you are supposed to play.’’

Monday is the lone visit this season by new Spurs power forward LaMarcus Aldridge, whose meeting with the Knicks got called off in July.

The Knicks wanted to sign a center to play alongside Kristaps Porzingis, and Aldridge didn’t think he would be a good fit as a pivot. The Knicks eventually decided meeting Aldridge was a waste of time and canceled.

Aldridge has averaged 15 points in his three games with the 2-1 Spurs. Carmelo Anthony said in August he had spoken with Aldridge and thought they had a real chance to land the former Trail Blazer.

I hate this article. Berman poses a question and then does a fluff piece where he quotes Wall who really has nothing to say on the subject outside of the obvious and then Berman regurgitates a Cleanthony talking point that has been brought up many times before. So, essentially Berman offers nothing. No added research, no added opinion of his own, nothing. And he tangents three times, about Wittman, about winning a few games at end of last season (what's this like the 20th time in the last month Post needed filler in their "aricles"?) and then about LaMarcus (and the Aldridge stuff was also regurgitated). Awesome work.

Just saw the article and was pretty much going to say the same thing about the second half, which he seemed to throw in to fill up some space and make an obligatory attack on Fisher or Jackson.

Did not think about who he spoke to. The guys to talk to would have been Galloway or Sasha, who probably know more about the offense than most of the other players on the team at this point.

The winning/losing end of last season stuff is pathetic, and bringing up the Minnesota losing streak and actually mentioning Flip Saunders is almost disgraceful, IMO. Almost sounds like he's saying that intentionally losing games has been blessed because the deceased and beloved Saunders allegedly orchestrated a 12 game losing streak to close out the season.

The Aldridge stuff seems fitting for its own headline tomorrow...not sure why it was just thrown in here...perhaps he just wanted to set us up for tomorrow's attack.

Best thing that could happen tomorrow would be a break out game for KP where he outplays Aldridge and helps the Knicks win the game, and Lopez clinches it with a block on an Aldridge shot as time runs down and the Knicks are up by 1.

Hahaha that would be pretty good, but I'd be willing to just settle for a W any ol' way.

BigDaddyG wrote:

EnySpree wrote:The Knicks run the triangle every time down. Just because the Knicks are playing at a quicker pace doesnt mean they aren't running it. If you claim to watch games then you know they are running the triangle. If you don't know then you don't know what you are looking at.

Yeah, it's similar to those old Bulls teams. Pippen, Jordan, Paxson it whoever would try to push the ball and score before settling down into the triangle. I remember those trams also incorporated the pick and roll.