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fishmike
Posts: 53867 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
11/2/2015 2:42 PM
mreinman wrote:agree.. but as mentioned he was hurt. That being said, I am a what you see is what you get. Right now Jose is old, getting beat by quicker players and not hitting shots. Tough to work around that. Lukily we are 2-1 so it hasnt cost us, but eventually it will.fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:he's human... and he's shooting like 23%. Guys get up, guys get down. I see Jose as place holder until Grant is ready, but I highly doubt he's as bad as he's shown. Like you said.. he's a pro. Getting beat on D? OK... but not shooting like he is. I expect a night where he shoots 4-6 from downtown and gives us 4-5 assists in 25 minutes. Maybe even a few in a row...fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:He's got Danny Green tonight, not much of a scorer... He's out there to hit some shots and play smart. He missed some good looks the last couple of games, so has Jose. Lets see if those two can show something.fishmike wrote:yea.. Sasha hasnt been terrible... First game was great actually. He was a big part of the blowout. Last two games he has shot very poorly. Lets see... Im looking for Sasha to play heavy minutes. He's here to spot start and replace guys who are hurt. So far we are 2-1 without our starting SG and with Sasha stepping into that role. This is what you live with when guys get hurt. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
11/2/2015 2:50 PM
fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:agree.. but as mentioned he was hurt. That being said, I am a what you see is what you get. Right now Jose is old, getting beat by quicker players and not hitting shots. Tough to work around that. Lukily we are 2-1 so it hasnt cost us, but eventually it will.fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:he's human... and he's shooting like 23%. Guys get up, guys get down. I see Jose as place holder until Grant is ready, but I highly doubt he's as bad as he's shown. Like you said.. he's a pro. Getting beat on D? OK... but not shooting like he is. I expect a night where he shoots 4-6 from downtown and gives us 4-5 assists in 25 minutes. Maybe even a few in a row...fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:He's got Danny Green tonight, not much of a scorer... He's out there to hit some shots and play smart. He missed some good looks the last couple of games, so has Jose. Lets see if those two can show something.fishmike wrote:yea.. Sasha hasnt been terrible... First game was great actually. He was a big part of the blowout. Last two games he has shot very poorly. Lets see... Im looking for Sasha to play heavy minutes. He's here to spot start and replace guys who are hurt. So far we are 2-1 without our starting SG and with Sasha stepping into that role. This is what you live with when guys get hurt. The way fisher is handling things now, is what i expected last season, but he refuse to do anything out side the triangle box, and his rotation made me want to shoot him on the spot. THE DNP's CD for seraphin(despite playing against his old team) and Early was a solid move. Last season he would have given those guys token minutes. ES
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
11/2/2015 7:06 PM
knicks1248 wrote:fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:agree.. but as mentioned he was hurt. That being said, I am a what you see is what you get. Right now Jose is old, getting beat by quicker players and not hitting shots. Tough to work around that. Lukily we are 2-1 so it hasnt cost us, but eventually it will.fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:he's human... and he's shooting like 23%. Guys get up, guys get down. I see Jose as place holder until Grant is ready, but I highly doubt he's as bad as he's shown. Like you said.. he's a pro. Getting beat on D? OK... but not shooting like he is. I expect a night where he shoots 4-6 from downtown and gives us 4-5 assists in 25 minutes. Maybe even a few in a row...fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:He's got Danny Green tonight, not much of a scorer... He's out there to hit some shots and play smart. He missed some good looks the last couple of games, so has Jose. Lets see if those two can show something.fishmike wrote:yea.. Sasha hasnt been terrible... First game was great actually. He was a big part of the blowout. Last two games he has shot very poorly. Lets see... Im looking for Sasha to play heavy minutes. He's here to spot start and replace guys who are hurt. So far we are 2-1 without our starting SG and with Sasha stepping into that role. This is what you live with when guys get hurt. Actually Fish DID IN FACT start doing what we're seeing now last year. I can quite easily point it out to you exactly the same things the team is doing now were part of the offense last year, but it still matters who is playing. You can't turn scrubs into good players simply by having them run the Triangle or any offense for that matter. You still need the players to actually get it done on the floor. Pushing the ball, Drag Screens, PnR etc was all implemented last year but this team is MUCH more talented and better suited to playing this system. As for lineups and rotations that also gets a bit easier when you have more talent. Tho it shouldn't be surprising if a rookie coach makes better decisions with more experience and better players. Fisher's biggest issue last year was talent and inexperience, but it starts with talent. If he had great players it would make him look a LOT smarter than having scrubs and guys who didn't fit. |
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crzymdups
Posts: 52018 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2004 Member: #671 USA |
11/3/2015 8:54 AM
Yeah, I agree - Fisher started implementing this system with Shved and Galloway late in the year last year.
I wish we would've brought Shved back and bought out Calderon. Then we could be starting General Grant next to Afflalo and have Galloway and Shved off the bench. Anyway, whatever. But Calderon needs to not be starting at some point soon. He's getting torched EVERY NIGHT at PG. That's the spot in the league every team (but us) starts their offense from. If you're going to allow yourself to get torched at the point, you're allowing an NBA team to jumpstart its offense. You put the entire team in a hole. Grant or Galloway needs to be the starting PG. I'd start them both for now. Not sure who fits best next to Afflalo, maybe Galloway. Then bring Grant in to run the bench unit, but also play alongside Galloway for some time. ¿ △ ?
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fishmike
Posts: 53867 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
11/3/2015 9:11 AM
mreinman wrote:LOL... Ok Sasha is terriblefishmike wrote:yea.. Sasha hasnt been terrible... First game was great actually. He was a big part of the blowout. Last two games he has shot very poorly. Lets see... Im looking for Sasha to play heavy minutes. He's here to spot start and replace guys who are hurt. So far we are 2-1 without our starting SG and with Sasha stepping into that role. This is what you live with when guys get hurt.     Everyone gets up and down... its a long season, but yea.. Sasha and Jose have been terrible. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Killa4luv
Posts: 27769 Alba Posts: 51 Joined: 6/23/2002 Member: #261 USA |
11/3/2015 9:22 AM
Fish you've said it all. When Melo is on like that we r beating good teams like WAS. When he's off we still have a shot like against SA who ultimately is just too talented and well coached for us at this stage. I'm still encouraged by our first half play and our grit to stay in it and cut it to 4 playing good d. Of course there lots of lay ups and blown defensive plays in there too but the time is young and learning. I feel really good about this team once everyone settles into their roles.
Offense had a lot of trouble getting going after about halfway in the 2nd quarter. I expect that to subside over time with familiarity with offense and between the players. This is a pretty balanced team that can compete with the best of them. We are a playoff team. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53867 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
11/3/2015 10:40 AM
Killa4luv wrote:Fish you've said it all. When Melo is on like that we r beating good teams like WAS. When he's off we still have a shot like against SA who ultimately is just too talented and well coached for us at this stage. I'm still encouraged by our first half play and our grit to stay in it and cut it to 4 playing good d. Of course there lots of lay ups and blown defensive plays in there too but the time is young and learning. I feel really good about this team once everyone settles into their roles.this.. we are big, skilled, deep and commited to defense. He have a group of youngish guys set to stick around awhile and grow in KP, Gallo, Grant, Rolo, KOQ Very promising "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
11/3/2015 10:55 AM
fishmike wrote:mreinman wrote:LOL... Ok Sasha is terriblefishmike wrote:yea.. Sasha hasnt been terrible... First game was great actually. He was a big part of the blowout. Last two games he has shot very poorly. Lets see... Im looking for Sasha to play heavy minutes. He's here to spot start and replace guys who are hurt. So far we are 2-1 without our starting SG and with Sasha stepping into that role. This is what you live with when guys get hurt. haha ... terrible. If he can't shoot then he is (basically) worthless. the older those legs get the harder it is to remain a consistent shooter. This game is too fast now. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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