Clean wrote:It is starting to seem like some people wait for Melo to have a bad game so they can talk bad about him. I had no problem with his game tonight. He just did not make the shots. He played the same exact way he did at the start of the preseason with the only exception that he and others were bricking shots.

Melo is poison. That's all.

There is no substitute for the day to day grind of an NBA season. If you're going to freak out this early, you will end up driving yourselves crazy, and thats no good for anyone.

fishmike wrote:

Clean wrote:It is starting to seem like some people wait for Melo to have a bad game so they can talk bad about him. I had no problem with his game tonight. He just did not make the shots. He played the same exact way he did at the start of the preseason with the only exception that he and others were bricking shots.

seems like? This thread is that reality. Guy finishes a great preseason, shoots 47% overall, shows leadership, brings guys together in the offseason, has one bad shooting game and its fat clown and this is bad Melo. These guys are human... unlike many of the posters here who dont understand that pro athletes are actually people and not stat producing robots. Nothing really new here

Tell that to Jae Crowder and the Celtics. They played last night like it was a playoff game.

4-18 with only 1 assist is inexcusable on the playground, youth basketball, high school, college, AAU, NBDL, FIBA, Olympics, Eurocup, Asia Cup...

Only saving grace is that it's preseason game number 6.

Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade, and stop sugar coating and dik riding.

He played like shyt. Period.

blkexec wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Clean wrote:It is starting to seem like some people wait for Melo to have a bad game so they can talk bad about him. I had no problem with his game tonight. He just did not make the shots. He played the same exact way he did at the start of the preseason with the only exception that he and others were bricking shots.

seems like? This thread is that reality. Guy finishes a great preseason, shoots 47% overall, shows leadership, brings guys together in the offseason, has one bad shooting game and its fat clown and this is bad Melo. These guys are human... unlike many of the posters here who dont understand that pro athletes are actually people and not stat producing robots. Nothing really new here

Tell that to Jae Crowder and the Celtics. They played last night like it was a playoff game.

4-18 with only 1 assist is inexcusable on the playground, youth basketball, high school, college, AAU, NBDL, FIBA, Olympics, Eurocup, Asia Cup...

Only saving grace is that it's preseason game number 6.

Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade, and stop sugar coating and dik riding.

He played like shyt. Period.

So on good games hes skinny and fast.

WHOA WHOA...pump the brakes there guy!

GustavBahler wrote:Saw a bunch of Celtics rooks hit the front of the rim at the same time Melo did. Lots of players were gassed. Its why Boston rested Olynic. At least 82 games ahead that actually count, 31 year old Melo
Melo busting his ass in a preseason game, after knee surgery, makes little sense.

There is no substitute for the day to day grind of an NBA season. If you're going to freak out this early, you will end up driving yourselves crazy, and thats no good for anyone.

Yup.

Might be smart to wait from the regular season and see how guys play as they get into game shape.

Have to say that I was a bit surprised about Anthony's lift since we've had a few games off and he should have recovered a bit.

I didn't think he had a lot of open shot opportunities yesterday, and that was surprising. Same was true with KP, who should be getting those pick and pop J opportunities, of which he might not have gotten any yesterday.

ChuckBuck wrote:

blkexec wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Clean wrote:It is starting to seem like some people wait for Melo to have a bad game so they can talk bad about him. I had no problem with his game tonight. He just did not make the shots. He played the same exact way he did at the start of the preseason with the only exception that he and others were bricking shots.

seems like? This thread is that reality. Guy finishes a great preseason, shoots 47% overall, shows leadership, brings guys together in the offseason, has one bad shooting game and its fat clown and this is bad Melo. These guys are human... unlike many of the posters here who dont understand that pro athletes are actually people and not stat producing robots. Nothing really new here

Tell that to Jae Crowder and the Celtics. They played last night like it was a playoff game.

4-18 with only 1 assist is inexcusable on the playground, youth basketball, high school, college, AAU, NBDL, FIBA, Olympics, Eurocup, Asia Cup...

Only saving grace is that it's preseason game number 6.

Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade, and stop sugar coating and dik riding.

He played like shyt. Period.

So on good games hes skinny and fast.

WHOA WHOA...pump the brakes there guy!

If you agree with a poster that says melo is a fat clown and slow..after a bad game. Then you have to agree with the opposite. Be careful who you agree with. Im not a melo hater but im also not going to call a top 5 scorer in the nba over his 10 plus yr career.....a fat slow clown after 1 preseason game. That kind of hatred was waiting for the right opportunity to show its ugly head.

blkexec wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

blkexec wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Clean wrote:It is starting to seem like some people wait for Melo to have a bad game so they can talk bad about him. I had no problem with his game tonight. He just did not make the shots. He played the same exact way he did at the start of the preseason with the only exception that he and others were bricking shots.

seems like? This thread is that reality. Guy finishes a great preseason, shoots 47% overall, shows leadership, brings guys together in the offseason, has one bad shooting game and its fat clown and this is bad Melo. These guys are human... unlike many of the posters here who dont understand that pro athletes are actually people and not stat producing robots. Nothing really new here

Tell that to Jae Crowder and the Celtics. They played last night like it was a playoff game.

4-18 with only 1 assist is inexcusable on the playground, youth basketball, high school, college, AAU, NBDL, FIBA, Olympics, Eurocup, Asia Cup...

Only saving grace is that it's preseason game number 6.

Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade, and stop sugar coating and dik riding.

He played like shyt. Period.

So on good games hes skinny and fast.

WHOA WHOA...pump the brakes there guy!

If you agree with a poster that says melo is a fat clown and slow..after a bad game. Then you have to agree with the opposite. Be careful who you agree with. Im not a melo hater but im also not going to call a top 5 scorer in the nba over his 10 plus yr career.....a fat slow clown after 1 preseason game. That kind of hatred was waiting for the right opportunity to show its ugly head.

Fat maybe exaggerated....okay maybe soft tissue, not hard muscle tone athlete like his contemporaries. He's not in supreme cardio shape either. It's always why he takes breaks on the defensive end, because you expend more energy defending someone than doing your jab step routine.

Slow...yep. He's always had a good first step, especially during his Denver years, when he would post, spin around baseline and jam it without touching the rim. First step yes...but he's never been quick or fast his whole career. 31 years and 13th season...yea, father time is licking his chops with Melo.

ChuckBuck wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Clean wrote:It is starting to seem like some people wait for Melo to have a bad game so they can talk bad about him. I had no problem with his game tonight. He just did not make the shots. He played the same exact way he did at the start of the preseason with the only exception that he and others were bricking shots.

seems like? This thread is that reality. Guy finishes a great preseason, shoots 47% overall, shows leadership, brings guys together in the offseason, has one bad shooting game and its fat clown and this is bad Melo. These guys are human... unlike many of the posters here who dont understand that pro athletes are actually people and not stat producing robots. Nothing really new here

Tell that to Jae Crowder and the Celtics. They played last night like it was a playoff game.

4-18 with only 1 assist is inexcusable on the playground, youth basketball, high school, college, AAU, NBDL, FIBA, Olympics, Eurocup, Asia Cup...

Only saving grace is that it's preseason game number 6.

Sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade, and stop sugar coating and dik riding.

He played like shyt. Period.

I love the anger and enthusiasm for the preseason game.

I'm having so much trouble finding a correlation here.

fishmike wrote:

Clean wrote:It is starting to seem like some people wait for Melo to have a bad game so they can talk bad about him. I had no problem with his game tonight. He just did not make the shots. He played the same exact way he did at the start of the preseason with the only exception that he and others were bricking shots.

seems like? This thread is that reality. Guy finishes a great preseason, shoots 47% overall, shows leadership, brings guys together in the offseason, has one bad shooting game and its fat clown and this is bad Melo. These guys are human... unlike many of the posters here who dont understand that pro athletes are actually people and not stat producing robots. Nothing really new here

Agree with both of these. Melo had a bad shooting night last night, he tried to shoot his way back into a groove or a hot streak, and that's all there is to it. It was the last game of the pre-season, so there's no real reason to get bent out of shape about it. I saw him play some pretty good defense. I'm not president of the Melo fan club (I still think he should've taken a little less money on his contract), but I'm not going to try and crucify the guy - yes, he is human - if he has a bad shooting night. He did bring the guys together to bond and build chemistry even before training camp, and there is no doubt in my mind that is a big reason why we're seeing guys like DWill, O'Quinn and even Early contributing so soon. But you won't hear the haters mention any of that. And they'll probably still pick at his game when he's doing well. I see this in every single Knicks forum I've ever visited. One bad game and they want to throw him in the trash. Follow it up with a really good game and they're still criticizing. It's amazing.

ChuckBuck wrote:

blkexec wrote:Now back to this thread. I believe melo will struggle at SF these season as we saw in the game yesterday. The reason melo had his best years at PF because its a mismatch in his favor. And as you get older you want to put your star players in mismatch situations.

SF guys in the league today are similar to melo in size and strength. ...plus they are younger. Thats not an advantage for him. Thats when he takes it personal and shoots 4-18.....This is why i said Fisher is the key to our success. He puts the players in positions to succeed. I dont like melo at SF.....i dont like KP at PF. And Rolo should eventually come off the bench.

Will Fisher have the balls to make these decisions. ...no....so we will basically tread water all year killing ourselves with bad matchups and unbalanced substitutions. Melo is a superstar when he has the right coach and team around him. When he doesnt hes very frustrating to watch.

Thing is blkexec, if Melo can't post and toast 6'6 Jae Crowder, how will he post and toast 6'10 Blake Griffin who's his superior in every way?

You can't go back into that small ball well, that's not how the Knicks were constructed.

crowder is 1000 times better of a defender than blake.