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martin
Posts: 76527 Alba Posts: 108 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #2 USA |
10/18/2015 1:47 PM
I tell you what, I thought this was a very good article by Berman: http://nypost.com/2015/10/18/second-year-knick-starting-to-find-some-success-at-nba-level/: "Second-year Knick starting to find some success at NBA level"
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Cartman718
Posts: 29069 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/12/2007 Member: #1694 |
10/18/2015 2:02 PM LAST EDITED: 10/18/2015 2:02 PM
martin wrote:I tell you what, I thought this was a very good article by Berman: http://nypost.com/2015/10/18/second-year-knick-starting-to-find-some-success-at-nba-level/: "Second-year Knick starting to find some success at NBA level" i am not convinced that he is mentally strong enough. have to see some crunch time performance from him in a regular season game as well as some level of consistency. not saying he can't get there... Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL
So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
10/19/2015 2:33 PM
GustavBahler wrote:mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Sangfroid wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Early looks like he could turn into a player similar to Gerald Wilkins, if he works on the holes in his game. if not for his defense and hand checking being allowed, he would have been a terrible player. Today, he would be pretty worthless. The guy could not shoot and if you can't shoot today, you better at least be as good defensively as Tony Allen. And even he is becoming a liability in todays game. He was a good finisher in transition. There are now 1000 guys who can do that, hardly enough. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
10/19/2015 2:35 PM LAST EDITED: 10/19/2015 2:36 PM
mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:i am afraid i still don't think much of him as a knick. just doesn't seem to see the floor on either end very well. yes he's shown some flashes but the game has not slowed down for him yet. until then he has to earn his keep defensively, where he remains pretty sketchy... there are nine other knicks that should see time before he does. there are nine other players on the roster who should get all of the 240 minutes. that's 26.6 minutes average per player. had the game slowed down for him it would be different. it was mentioned that he was a 4 in college and needs to be a 3 in the pros. beware the tweeners-- they rarely work out. whose minutes should he be cutting into? here are the choices as i see it right now: Afflalo knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
10/19/2015 2:37 PM
dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:i am afraid i still don't think much of him as a knick. just doesn't seem to see the floor on either end very well. yes he's shown some flashes but the game has not slowed down for him yet. until then he has to earn his keep defensively, where he remains pretty sketchy... there are nine other knicks that should see time before he does. it depends who is not playing well: Calderon, Williams, Galloway etc ... Also, shouldn't you wait to see how he is playing during the season? How he is practicing? Defense? so here is what phil is thinking ....
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
10/19/2015 2:40 PM LAST EDITED: 10/19/2015 2:41 PM
mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:i am afraid i still don't think much of him as a knick. just doesn't seem to see the floor on either end very well. yes he's shown some flashes but the game has not slowed down for him yet. until then he has to earn his keep defensively, where he remains pretty sketchy... there are nine other knicks that should see time before he does. forgive my narrow-mindedness in this discussion but early is a "3". that means melo and williams have to be playing badly. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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GustavBahler
Posts: 42864 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
10/19/2015 2:43 PM
mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Sangfroid wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Early looks like he could turn into a player similar to Gerald Wilkins, if he works on the holes in his game. Im guessing you didnt watch him play because Wilkins was a very good defender. He defended Jordan as well as anyone could, but you're saying he couldnt play D. As far as handchecking, you could say that about some of the best defenders in the league back then. Not everyone can finish in traffic like Wilkins could, THJ and Shump sure can't. Wilkins had his flaws but he was better than Shump or THJ has ever been. Early and Wilkins are very athletic players who can play D, and who thrive in transition. So far Early had a lot of work to do just to have as good a career. I will believe it when I see it. |
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fishmike
Posts: 53867 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
10/19/2015 2:45 PM
CrushAlot wrote:He has looked great. He was so disappointing last year that I thought the Knicks should look to trade him. He recently said that he thought he knew a lot going into his rookie season but realized he didn't.I think this is key and says alot about him. He thought he had a clue, turns out he didnt, and has probably turned over his BB brain to the coaches who have hammered home "play defense and let the offense come to you if you want to stay in the league" and you are seeing the results. Also he was never healthy for any stretch of games, so it was hard to really evaluate where he was as a player. As opposed to say THjr, whom we got to see for extended stretches and time and time again showed he's dumb as a bag of rocks (and btw looks like exactly the same dope he was with NY) ultimately you need some body of work to start judging guys. Early simply didnt have one, aside from always being banged up. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
10/19/2015 2:49 PM
GustavBahler wrote:mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:mreinman wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Sangfroid wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Early looks like he could turn into a player similar to Gerald Wilkins, if he works on the holes in his game. I watched pretty much every knick game back then as I do now. Wilkens was a great defender but with the new rules, it changed the league and now teams (like the knicks of the 90's) can't win that way. You need to be able to score and at guard you need to stretch the floor. Interesting (and rightfully so) not one of those highlights are an outside shot. If he played today, he would be quite exposed. He had a good work ethic and was a good guy but I really did not like him as a player. Even Johnny Newman got me more excited. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
10/19/2015 2:50 PM
dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:mreinman wrote:dk7th wrote:i am afraid i still don't think much of him as a knick. just doesn't seem to see the floor on either end very well. yes he's shown some flashes but the game has not slowed down for him yet. until then he has to earn his keep defensively, where he remains pretty sketchy... there are nine other knicks that should see time before he does. I think that the 2 and 3 are quite interchangable these days of course depending who is at the 1 and 4. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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