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herkyJerky
Posts: 20704 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/10/2015 Member: #6155 USA |
![]() I don't see what the big deal is. So what if he wants coaches to hold him accountable and call him out? Isn't that what players should want? Wasn't that a big complaint from last year, that too many times players weren't being held accountable for their mistakes? I think people are looking too deep into this for no real reason.
If it ain't broke, don't break it. - Charles 'The REAL Sir Charles' Oakley.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
![]() Tired of the Melo debate at this point. Dude is clearly our best player and we need him in order to win. Picking at his game at this point seems a bit too much. He's clearly trying to make this work as best as he can. All the evidence so far is of a guy who wants to help this team win and is FULLY bought in.
From what it looks like to me Melo is doing more in the flow of the offense. Melo is trying on D. So really I don't see any reason for alarm. The tough regular season schedule will be a real test of how well all of this is working out. So far tho the team seems to be working hard and coming together. No complaints. |
mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
![]() holfresh wrote:tj23 wrote:I'm with EinMan. I do believe Melo WANTS to win but he still has to prove he can adapt his game. Everybody looks good when they are red hot. When he is ice cold how will he respond? Will he try to attack the rim more to open up for others? Try to draw more fouls? Or will he play very passive and let others try to score? Will he continue to jack up shots? And will he try to get more points from triangle actions or just take the ball when he wants and try to ISO? unfortunately for us, I think that Melo thinks exactly like you. If not me, who else? Puke ... its probably why he is labeled as a selfish player. everyone one has defenders for anything that they do ... so be it. so here is what phil is thinking ....
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herkyJerky
Posts: 20704 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/10/2015 Member: #6155 USA |
![]() mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:tj23 wrote:I'm with EinMan. I do believe Melo WANTS to win but he still has to prove he can adapt his game. Everybody looks good when they are red hot. When he is ice cold how will he respond? Will he try to attack the rim more to open up for others? Try to draw more fouls? Or will he play very passive and let others try to score? Will he continue to jack up shots? And will he try to get more points from triangle actions or just take the ball when he wants and try to ISO? I'd be willing to bet that Melo is pretty comfortable at this point with other guys taking shots, especially when AA gets involved. AA, KP and Calderon are guys I think he feels pretty confident with in terms of taking shots. And if RoLo keeps knocking down those uncontested 'jumpers', I'd be willing to bet that he feels pretty good about that as well. When you're cold, you don't just stop taking shots, you just don't chuck up as many as you normally would when you're hot or even just average. If you just stop altogether, then that puts more pressure on your other guys in terms of the opposing defense. It's pretty much just common sense. I think Melo has a lot more confidence in these guys than he's had in the past couple of years. If it ain't broke, don't break it. - Charles 'The REAL Sir Charles' Oakley.
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mreinman
Posts: 37827 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/14/2010 Member: #3189 |
![]() herkyJerky wrote:mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:tj23 wrote:I'm with EinMan. I do believe Melo WANTS to win but he still has to prove he can adapt his game. Everybody looks good when they are red hot. When he is ice cold how will he respond? Will he try to attack the rim more to open up for others? Try to draw more fouls? Or will he play very passive and let others try to score? Will he continue to jack up shots? And will he try to get more points from triangle actions or just take the ball when he wants and try to ISO? stop chucking as much when you are cold would be a good start. I think that people just don't understand the way that Melo thinks so here is what phil is thinking ....
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fishmike
Posts: 53867 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
![]() mreinman wrote:prob the same folks that find it old and tiring that posters act like they understand what Melo is thinkingherkyJerky wrote:mreinman wrote:holfresh wrote:tj23 wrote:I'm with EinMan. I do believe Melo WANTS to win but he still has to prove he can adapt his game. Everybody looks good when they are red hot. When he is ice cold how will he respond? Will he try to attack the rim more to open up for others? Try to draw more fouls? Or will he play very passive and let others try to score? Will he continue to jack up shots? And will he try to get more points from triangle actions or just take the ball when he wants and try to ISO? ![]() If Melo has a good shooting game people say "when his shot is falling he doesnt do anything else to help the team win" and when he grabs a dozen boards and has 3 steals... they say exactly the same thing. I love it when the great basketball minds of UK simply cant understand how the best scorer on the team gets the most shots. Funny. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
![]() -Trying on defense
-healthy -Leadership- off season -passing the ball more -Trying to improve I have been very impressed myself;however, I am still in the boat with Reinman and ChuckBuck. When his shot is off, what is he going to do that can positively impact the team? It is common knowledge that every player has crappy shooting nights here and there, I want to see how Melo responds to in game situations when he shot is off. Is he going to start passing the ball a lot more? Is he going to try and rebound the ball a lot more? Play great defense? Or is he going to try and get to the line? More importantly, can he do some of these things on a regular basis? If Melo can do all of these things when he his shot is off, then we have a new and top 5 player on our hands. It is not impossible. We see guys like Butler, Harden, Curry, Lebron, Durant do it. Melo's talent level is on par with these guys, so I have confidence if he dedicated to improve upon these aspects of his game he can become a top 3 player. Nevertheless, kudos to Melo for what has done so far. Lets see how he does moving forward this preseason and how it translate into the regular season and hopefully the playoffs. The Future is Bright!
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Papabear
Posts: 24373 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 3/31/2007 Member: #1414 |
![]() Papabear Says
I have been very busy finishing up 3 albums this year and didn't have time to post. Now I take a peek and it's the same old same old Melo Bashers. I have just one thing to say. With out Melo we got no team. The season has not begun KProniz is down. He even got injured during the workouts that we had with him. You better worry about that because Jackson bet the future on KP. The Melo haters will never give Melo a thumbs up no matter what he does. They talk about him doing other things. They need to worry about the other player that Phil Jackson brought in. If this team stink this season and Melo have to go out of his way to do all of the extra things the hater complain about he will probably get injured and since we really have no scorers we may be headed to another 17 game win season. Stay off of Melo and start worring about the other players and especally our first round pick who is ????? oh yes injured again. Papabear
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
![]() holfresh wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:knicks1248 wrote:tj23 wrote:I'm with EinMan. I do believe Melo WANTS to win but he still has to prove he can adapt his game. Everybody looks good when they are red hot. When he is ice cold how will he respond? Will he try to attack the rim more to open up for others? Try to draw more fouls? Or will he play very passive and let others try to score? Will he continue to jack up shots? And will he try to get more points from triangle actions or just take the ball when he wants and try to ISO? that's because when he gets the ball with 14-15 seconds left he often holds it for 5-7 seconds. by contrast, if the ball doesn't stick it finds its way to someone with a better shot opportunity. again, when the ball sticks it promotes rushed-- and lower-percentage-- shots. basketball 101. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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jrodmc
Posts: 32927 Alba Posts: 50 Joined: 11/24/2004 Member: #805 USA |
![]() dk7th wrote:holfresh wrote:ChuckBuck wrote:knicks1248 wrote:tj23 wrote:I'm with EinMan. I do believe Melo WANTS to win but he still has to prove he can adapt his game. Everybody looks good when they are red hot. When he is ice cold how will he respond? Will he try to attack the rim more to open up for others? Try to draw more fouls? Or will he play very passive and let others try to score? Will he continue to jack up shots? And will he try to get more points from triangle actions or just take the ball when he wants and try to ISO? You've seen lots of all-star caliber geniuses running off beautiful screens and cuts and being wide open all the time do you? All I've seen and read about historically are the morons standing around and then dribbling off their feet when they get the ball. More recently, I've even read someone posting about how DFish abandoned trying to get his players to run the triangle. Gee, most be Melonoma's fault. And wasn't that one of Melo's teammates saying he was "getting lost in the triangle"? Well, what do you know, one of the most prolific scorers in recent NBA history is a ball hog. Imagine that. But of course, the caliber and BB IQ of those he's played with is also his fault, right? By golly, the STUPID DOUCHE went 5-5 from the line, too. Open your eyes, Professor. |