CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:I hope not too many get their hopes up again. I mean we heard the same thing with lebron, chris paul, and even greg monroe who most people pretty much guaranteed he Would come to NY. Also melo hasnt exactly been a proven recruiter except for maybe afflalo

Prior to this offseason he has been recruiting with vet mini deals and the mid level exception. Not sure what you expected him to pull off with no money available to spend. This offseason it sounded like his presence at least garnered consideration from Aldridge.

knickscity wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:I hope not too many get their hopes up again. I mean we heard the same thing with lebron, chris paul, and even greg monroe who most people pretty much guaranteed he Would come to NY. Also melo hasnt exactly been a proven recruiter except for maybe afflalo

Prior to this offseason he has been recruiting with vet mini deals and the mid level exception. Not sure what you expected him to pull off with no money available to spend. This offseason it sounded like his presence at least garnered consideration from Aldridge.

Idk, if a player really wants to play with another, they let it be known, and salaries can come off the books one way or another. I knew the "no money" angle would be brought up, but even WITH money they still didnt come.

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:I hope not too many get their hopes up again. I mean we heard the same thing with lebron, chris paul, and even greg monroe who most people pretty much guaranteed he Would come to NY. Also melo hasnt exactly been a proven recruiter except for maybe afflalo

Prior to this offseason he has been recruiting with vet mini deals and the mid level exception. Not sure what you expected him to pull off with no money available to spend. This offseason it sounded like his presence at least garnered consideration from Aldridge.

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:I hope not too many get their hopes up again. I mean we heard the same thing with lebron, chris paul, and even greg monroe who most people pretty much guaranteed he Would come to NY. Also melo hasnt exactly been a proven recruiter except for maybe afflalo

Prior to this offseason he has been recruiting with vet mini deals and the mid level exception. Not sure what you expected him to pull off with no money available to spend. This offseason it sounded like his presence at least garnered consideration from Aldridge.

crush i wasnt criticizing melo i was just pointing out the facts so far. Also lets be honest aldridge was never coming here. Just because he said he was impressed doesnt mean he was coming here. Believe me ive heard so many players say similar things about teams they didnt sign with

As long as the facts include the salary cap situation. There was no cap space during the Amare, Tyson, Bargs tenure and there wasn't much to show for the money spent on the court. I believe Amare was the highest paid player in the league last year.

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:I hope not too many get their hopes up again. I mean we heard the same thing with lebron, chris paul, and even greg monroe who most people pretty much guaranteed he Would come to NY. Also melo hasnt exactly been a proven recruiter except for maybe afflalo

Prior to this offseason he has been recruiting with vet mini deals and the mid level exception. Not sure what you expected him to pull off with no money available to spend. This offseason it sounded like his presence at least garnered consideration from Aldridge.

crush i wasnt criticizing melo i was just pointing out the facts so far. Also lets be honest aldridge was never coming here. Just because he said he was impressed doesnt mean he was coming here. Believe me ive heard so many players say similar things about teams they didnt sign with

As long as the facts include the salary cap situation. There was no cap space during the Amare, Tyson, Bargs tenure and there wasn't much to show for the money spent on the court. I believe Amare was the highest paid player in the league last year.

ok thats fair but how about this year? We had plenty of cap space for the top free agents. Melo just isnt a player who other top players are gonna run to join. Thats not a criticism just how it seems to be. I still feel melo is the perfect number 2 guy on a playoff team

Only one top player left his team and he said he was interested in the Knicks.

holfresh wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:If Westbrook and Durant don't work, how the hell would Melo and Durant work? It wouldn't.

Let me preface this by saying I don't want Durant..But Westbrook Durant didn't work because of the coach..Deep in the playoffs OKC just came up court and ran one on one plays..Billy Donovan will be a much better coach for them...

so aldrich yes but durant no??

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:You can play Melo n Durant in the Triangle. There really is no issue because of the prescribed spacing and movement. They both are effective from just about anywhere and this offense rewards that versatility. I'm not really pushing for it or expecting it but it could work easily. In the Triangle it's more about basketball players with skills than positions.

What about front line defense and rebounding?..Post play in the triangle?

Phil has played some interesting lineups over the years. Mostly traditional but usually well rounded players. What is it about KD n Melo that precludes putting defenders n rebounders on the floor with them?

1997-98 playoffs
Rk Player	Age	G	GS ▾	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%
1 Michael Jordan 34	21	21	41.5	11.6	25.0	.462	0.6	2.0	.302
2 Scottie Pippen 32	21	21	39.8	5.8	14.0	.415	0.9	3.8	.228
3 Ron Harper	34	21	21	26.8	2.7	5.8	.459	0.2	0.9	.263
4 Toni Kukoc	29	21	17	30.3	5.0	10.4	.486	1.1	2.9	.377
5 Luc Longley	29	18	16	25.3	3.0	6.7	.450	0.0	0.0		
6 Dennis Rodman	36	21	9	34.4	1.9	5.0	.371	0.0	0.2	.250
2001-02 Playoffs
Rk Player	Age	G	GS ▾	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%
1 Kobe Bryant	23	19	19	43.8	9.8	22.7	.434	1.2	3.1	.379
2 Shaquille O'Neal 29	19	19	40.8	10.7	20.2	.529	0.0	0.0	
3 Rick Fox	32	19	19	34.3	3.5	7.3	.482	0.8	2.3	.349
4 Derek Fisher	27	19	19	34.2	3.2	8.8	.357	1.5	4.3	.358
5 Robert Horry	31	19	14	37.0	3.2	7.2	.449	1.3	3.3	.387
6 Samaki Walker	25	19	5	12.6	1.3	2.7	.462	0.1	0.1	1.000
2009-10 Playoffs
Rk Player	Age	G	GS ▾	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%
1 Kobe Bryant	31	23	23	40.1	10.2	22.2	.458	2.1	5.7	.374
2 Pau Gasol	29	23	23	39.7	7.2	13.3	.539	0.0	0.1	.000
3 Metta World Peace30	23	23	36.5	4.4	11.0	.398	1.5	5.1	.291
4 Derek Fisher	35	23	23	32.8	3.6	8.0	.448	1.2	3.3	.360
5 Andrew Bynum	22	23	23	24.4	3.5	6.5	.537	0.0	0.0	

holfresh wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:I would not worry about rebounding with Melo and Durant with Lopez on the floor. I doubt the defense would be bad either.

And why is that?

Well Durant rebounds pretty well for a sf and his defense s not awful. Memo can defend when he wants but he did well as a post defender at the 4 and rebounded I think slightly below avg for a 4, I think he was avg 8 rebs which was what Aldridge was pulling down before Lopez got to Portland. I think you could create a defense around Lopez and use Duramt's and Mall's skill sets.