gunsnewing wrote:Honestly I think it's:
C (1)Lopez - (2)Seraphin - (3)O'Quinn
PF (1)Willams - (2)Porzingis - (3)O'Quinn

Amundson as the ultimate practice player and tone/culture setter veteran who can fill in and produced when his number is called despite inconsistent minutes. Same for LT at SF.

No reason to over-work Melo any more than he has already when you have LT, Early, Thanasis & KP to eat up those minutes

Why is williams starting? Why is Seraphin ahead of Quinn?

TPercy wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

TPercy wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

TPercy wrote:Easily Porzingis. Kyle O Quinn will be our back up center. He is a proven rim protector and that is where his position should be in my opinion. If o Quinn starts there, that forces Porgy to be our back up center and I don't think he is ready body wise to play there yet. Williams needs to prove that he can step it up before we give him a chance.

All i have to say is Kevin Seraphin...

Seraphin is a center. He will likely play 3rd string or most likely share minutes with O Quinn. He may show out at training camp and maybe the give him the spot. Who knows.

You are severely underrating our players. On the flip side you can argue that I'm over rating our players.

Kevin Seraphin and kyle o'quinn could start at the 4 for us...neither have started consistently for their previous teams but both are young and are with a team that can provide them with an opportunity. Both players have established themselves in this league. Kristaps and Derrick Williams have not. For them is more of a wait and see. Seraphin and O'Quinn you know what you will get with extended minutes.

In my opinion you have to start O'Quinn at the 4 for a more versatile steady facilitator at the 4. He will rebound, defend and hit the jumper. He compliments melo and Robin in the front court.

Kristaps should be able to produce off the bench no problem. I do not think he's ready for 30 mins and a starting position. I feel he needs to prove that in his development. Seraphin is a legit post threat and will be great backing up both o'quinn and Robin.

Derrick williams is the wild card because we don't know what he is going to bring.

training camp will settle it. Fisher is not going to play guys just because. I can't wait

I'm not underratin any of our players. I prefer O Quinn to be our back up center because he is a trust worthy rim protector and someone who I trust to back up Robin Lopez and gradually evolve into a starter over the years as he develops as robin lopez gets older.

Seraphin has averaged 15 minutes per game (there about) for the Wizards and has always played as a center since he came out of college despite his rookie year. So why the hell are we talking a wizards scrub and automatically slotting him in our starting lineup? Because he plays in the magical triangle?let's get real and put away these unrealistic expectsrions of our players. Seraphin has potential, but let's see what he can do and slowly bring him up. Remember- he has him terrible ball IQ, amare stoudemire level bball IQ.

You are right , Derrick Williams may surprise us, but based on his terrible past I don't want him anywhere near the rotation never mind the starting lineup.until he proves that he can put it together here.

Nobody is talking about the magical triangle. I happen to believe in what Seraphin can do. I called him a legit post threat. Doesn't say anything about the triangle.

You can't dismiss Seraphin and big up Kristaps. Seraphin had 5 years of nba experience. Kristaps has none. You don't bring in a guy that has 5 years and say you have to being him in slowly, then say Kristaps should start right away. Even if you wanna say Seraphin has a low basketball IQ, there's footage that says otherwise. There's former teammates that endorse the kid. 15 mins a game in Washington, but the dude was playing behind some high priced vets. Gotta factor that in

I would love to be a bug in the wall in training camp. I'm thinking it will be highly competitive

gunsnewing wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:No player is immovable.

Calderon and Derrick Williams look like dead contracts to me. ( I.E. a positive asset or several needs to be moved with them to get them off the roster)

Williams, inexplicably, has a player option for that 2nd year. Phil Jackson just set 10 million on fire. Literally took 10 million and burned it to ash.

If Affalo suffers a moderate to major injury, he also has a players option, which would make him a dead contract if he had season ending injury at any point.

You can say that about any Knick. Whether it comes to fruition we will find out. Trading Tyson for Calderon has already proven to be one of the worst trades in the history of the NBA. As for DW & Affalo we will have to wait and see. Could turn out great for all we know. In other words those players and the moves to get them here have nothing to do with last year's moves. Tyson for Calderon is its own entity. Let's wait and see

One of the worst trades in the history of the NBA...Hahahahahahahha wow talk about over reacting. That could be the worst over reacting thing said in the history of this message board. LOL

newyorknewyork wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:KP46 is starting but they will probably limit his minutes. I see him playing around 25-30 min in the first couple of months.

KP46, I like that!!!

Alas it did not last. Sorry Travis.

EnySpree wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:Why isn't big Lou Amundson a choice?? LOL You never know.

Oversight lol...other is an option and they're are alot of options at the 4 for us

Possible but Lou Amundson rarely starts throughout his career. We got a big problem if we start him..

dk7th wrote:what phil and fisher will do is see how effective o'quinn is in the triangle in pre-season and keep your fingers crossed that he has the skills and mind. this is the optimal situation for this season. you want to acclimate the latvian over the course of the season so you weight o'quinn's minutes heavier at the start of the season and reduce them over the season of the kid looks strong and durable. if not durable then the minutes stay low as his body matures.

looking at the advanced numbers it shows that o'quinn is a potentially good to excellent playmaker an effective scorer like boris diaw. imagine if he raises his defense to above average. also he should be prioritizing conditioning-- i bet he could get a little leaner and quicker.