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CrushAlot
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8/5/2015  7:55 PM
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mreinman wrote:another reason to hate melo

Really? I like this signing. Unlike the derricks williams signing, there were hardly any options that were available that could better him. We got him at a nice price., he can impact the court on both ends (maybe a little less than he could with the magic) ,he can hit those midrange jumpers effectively, and a very reliable 3pt shooter and secondary scorer, and has a high character unlike all of our other previous shooting guards. If he sucks, he has a movable contract and his deal is short as well. His wife shares are a bit concerning but nevertheless, I look forward to seeing him play.


His teammates get privileges with his wife? Maybe that's why Melo likes him.
Seriously though a lot of his stats look bad. Nate Silver's 538.com had his projected value over 2 years at $1 mil total even though we're paying him $16 mil! I don't think he's that bad but I haven't seen any metrics that would indicate it's actually a good signing.
I got to watch him a bit when he was on Orlando. I think it is a good signing.
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8/5/2015  7:59 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:another reason to hate melo

Really? I like this signing. Unlike the derricks williams signing, there were hardly any options that were available that could better him. We got him at a nice price., he can impact the court on both ends (maybe a little less than he could with the magic) ,he can hit those midrange jumpers effectively, and a very reliable 3pt shooter and secondary scorer, and has a high character unlike all of our other previous shooting guards. If he sucks, he has a movable contract and his deal is short as well. His wife shares are a bit concerning but nevertheless, I look forward to seeing him play.


His teammates get privileges with his wife? Maybe that's why Melo likes him.
Seriously though a lot of his stats look bad. Nate Silver's 538.com had his projected value over 2 years at $1 mil total even though we're paying him $16 mil! I don't think he's that bad but I haven't seen any metrics that would indicate it's actually a good signing.
I got to watch him a bit when he was on Orlando. I think it is a good signing.

He is not the same player as he was in Orlando..

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8/5/2015  8:00 PM
^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?
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8/5/2015  8:06 PM
No, Afflalo is the same player he was in Orlando. The difference is he no longer be the 1st option, though I understand that it was not the role he supposed to be.
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8/5/2015  8:07 PM
CrushAlot wrote:^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?

Yeah..I really liked him then but there was a huge drop off in Denver..He wasn't playing with the same energy..Same thing in Portland..He can be a good 20 mins a night guy on a good team..

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8/5/2015  8:08 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?

Yeah..I really liked him then but there was a huge drop off in Denver..He wasn't playing with the same energy..Same thing in Portland..He can be a good 20 mins a night guy on a good team..

You know that he had some dispute with Shaw right?

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8/5/2015  8:09 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:another reason to hate melo

Really? I like this signing. Unlike the derricks williams signing, there were hardly any options that were available that could better him. We got him at a nice price., he can impact the court on both ends (maybe a little less than he could with the magic) ,he can hit those midrange jumpers effectively, and a very reliable 3pt shooter and secondary scorer, and has a high character unlike all of our other previous shooting guards. If he sucks, he has a movable contract and his deal is short as well. His wife shares are a bit concerning but nevertheless, I look forward to seeing him play.


His teammates get privileges with his wife? Maybe that's why Melo likes him.
Seriously though a lot of his stats look bad. Nate Silver's 538.com had his projected value over 2 years at $1 mil total even though we're paying him $16 mil! I don't think he's that bad but I haven't seen any metrics that would indicate it's actually a good signing.

If your going to talk stat/metric, why was Nash a better play under MDA, who had less talent around him than DALLAS.

Safe bet would suggest system and coaching. When you win MVP, it's a big thing, when you win it back to back, your no fluke.


"I watched a ton of film," Afflalo said. "I anticipated wanting to play for New York. I was even watching triangle film before I even signed with New York just in hopes of. I'm very excited. I feel I can be very effective within the offense."

Recent history suggests that Afflalo can thrive in the triangle, which produces a plethora of opportunities for midrange jump shooters.

He hit 46.1 percent of his midrange shots last season -- the 10th-highest percentage in the league (minimum 200 attempts).

This should be a solid move, not a glamorous one, and obviously Melo thinks so too

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8/5/2015  8:11 PM
stopstandthere wrote:No, Afflalo is the same player he was in Orlando. The difference is he no longer be the 1st option, though I understand that it was not the role he supposed to be.

the thing is, he step up in that role in orlando, unlike any of our players last yr who were giving the opportunity to rise up

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8/5/2015  8:13 PM
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stopstandthere wrote:No, Afflalo is the same player he was in Orlando. The difference is he no longer be the 1st option, though I understand that it was not the role he supposed to be.

the thing is, he step up in that role in orlando, unlike any of our players last yr who were giving the opportunity to rise up

Right and it showed that Afflalo can almost fulfill the task assigned to him. The concern for him is the injury issue.

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8/5/2015  8:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/5/2015  8:16 PM
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holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?

Yeah..I really liked him then but there was a huge drop off in Denver..He wasn't playing with the same energy..Same thing in Portland..He can be a good 20 mins a night guy on a good team..

You know that he had some dispute with Shaw right?


He didn't have the explosiveness or that extra gear in Denver he had in Orlando..Same thing in Portland..He lost a step..You wouldn't be able to get that player in Orlando for 8 mil per..
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8/5/2015  8:15 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:another reason to hate melo

Really? I like this signing. Unlike the derricks williams signing, there were hardly any options that were available that could better him. We got him at a nice price., he can impact the court on both ends (maybe a little less than he could with the magic) ,he can hit those midrange jumpers effectively, and a very reliable 3pt shooter and secondary scorer, and has a high character unlike all of our other previous shooting guards. If he sucks, he has a movable contract and his deal is short as well. His wife shares are a bit concerning but nevertheless, I look forward to seeing him play.


His teammates get privileges with his wife? Maybe that's why Melo likes him.
Seriously though a lot of his stats look bad. Nate Silver's 538.com had his projected value over 2 years at $1 mil total even though we're paying him $16 mil! I don't think he's that bad but I haven't seen any metrics that would indicate it's actually a good signing.
I got to watch him a bit when he was on Orlando. I think it is a good signing.

He was a good locker room guy there as a vet.

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8/5/2015  8:19 PM
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stopstandthere wrote:
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?

Yeah..I really liked him then but there was a huge drop off in Denver..He wasn't playing with the same energy..Same thing in Portland..He can be a good 20 mins a night guy on a good team..

You know that he had some dispute with Shaw right?


He didn't have the explosiveness or that extra gear in Denver he had in Orlando..Same thing in Portland..He lost a step..You wouldn't be able to get that player in Orlando for 8 mil per..

Yes I watched that. He was just standing at the corner and waiting for the ball right? Well I attribute this to the coach to a large extent.

When he was in orlando, he has done the same in a few games when he was told to do so.

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8/5/2015  8:21 PM
mreinman wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:another reason to hate melo

Really? I like this signing. Unlike the derricks williams signing, there were hardly any options that were available that could better him. We got him at a nice price., he can impact the court on both ends (maybe a little less than he could with the magic) ,he can hit those midrange jumpers effectively, and a very reliable 3pt shooter and secondary scorer, and has a high character unlike all of our other previous shooting guards. If he sucks, he has a movable contract and his deal is short as well. His wife shares are a bit concerning but nevertheless, I look forward to seeing him play.

eh ... I think that he is extremely overrated.


Really? I think he is decent except when he is in the play offs;However, I doubt we make the playoffs this season.
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8/5/2015  8:25 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:another reason to hate melo

Really? I like this signing. Unlike the derricks williams signing, there were hardly any options that were available that could better him. We got him at a nice price., he can impact the court on both ends (maybe a little less than he could with the magic) ,he can hit those midrange jumpers effectively, and a very reliable 3pt shooter and secondary scorer, and has a high character unlike all of our other previous shooting guards. If he sucks, he has a movable contract and his deal is short as well. His wife shares are a bit concerning but nevertheless, I look forward to seeing him play.


His teammates get privileges with his wife? Maybe that's why Melo likes him.
Seriously though a lot of his stats look bad. Nate Silver's 538.com had his projected value over 2 years at $1 mil total even though we're paying him $16 mil! I don't think he's that bad but I haven't seen any metrics that would indicate it's actually a good signing.

Haha. this stupid kindle keeps on autocorrecting and I can't be assed to proofread.

1 million total? Lol. I would love to see what they had derricks williams at.besides ws48 which other advanced stat is really bad?

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8/5/2015  8:29 PM
holfresh wrote:
stopstandthere wrote:
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?

Yeah..I really liked him then but there was a huge drop off in Denver..He wasn't playing with the same energy..Same thing in Portland..He can be a good 20 mins a night guy on a good team..

You know that he had some dispute with Shaw right?


He didn't have the explosiveness or that extra gear in Denver he had in Orlando..Same thing in Portland..He lost a step..You wouldn't be able to get that player in Orlando for 8 mil per..

Exactly who played well in denver last season before the coach got fired for not elevating his players, and affalo was a damn near a 4th option after lillard(scoring pg) LMA, and batum, plus no training camp and just kind of winging it.

Calerdon was considered a very accurate shooter and was pretty durable before he got here last season. Now he's a crackhead shooter, who cant stay healthy, that label came after 6 months despite 7 yrs of proving otherwise..smh..crazy

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8/5/2015  8:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/5/2015  8:55 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
stopstandthere wrote:
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?

Yeah..I really liked him then but there was a huge drop off in Denver..He wasn't playing with the same energy..Same thing in Portland..He can be a good 20 mins a night guy on a good team..

You know that he had some dispute with Shaw right?


He didn't have the explosiveness or that extra gear in Denver he had in Orlando..Same thing in Portland..He lost a step..You wouldn't be able to get that player in Orlando for 8 mil per..

Exactly who played well in denver last season before the coach got fired for not elevating his players, and affalo was a damn near a 4th option after lillard(scoring pg) LMA, and batum, plus no training camp and just kind of winging it.

Calerdon was considered a very accurate shooter and was pretty durable before he got here last season. Now he's a crackhead shooter, who cant stay healthy, that label came after 6 months despite 7 yrs of proving otherwise..smh..crazy

The coach has nothing to do with how a player look physically.. He wasn't the same energy player in Denver or in Portland that he was in Orlando..Ask yourself if the player in Orlando can be had for 8 mil per in this new economic environment?..No...

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8/5/2015  8:50 PM
TPercy wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
TPercy wrote:
mreinman wrote:another reason to hate melo

Really? I like this signing. Unlike the derricks williams signing, there were hardly any options that were available that could better him. We got him at a nice price., he can impact the court on both ends (maybe a little less than he could with the magic) ,he can hit those midrange jumpers effectively, and a very reliable 3pt shooter and secondary scorer, and has a high character unlike all of our other previous shooting guards. If he sucks, he has a movable contract and his deal is short as well. His wife shares are a bit concerning but nevertheless, I look forward to seeing him play.


His teammates get privileges with his wife? Maybe that's why Melo likes him.
Seriously though a lot of his stats look bad. Nate Silver's 538.com had his projected value over 2 years at $1 mil total even though we're paying him $16 mil! I don't think he's that bad but I haven't seen any metrics that would indicate it's actually a good signing.

Haha. this stupid kindle keeps on autocorrecting and I can't be assed to proofread.

1 million total? Lol. I would love to see what they had derricks williams at.besides ws48 which other advanced stat is really bad?


I tend to look at all the ones on bball reference. So that's box score plus minus, value over replacement, per 100 offense/defense. Generally, they don't indicate that they were worth that much of our cap space IMO.
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8/5/2015  9:51 PM
holfresh wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
stopstandthere wrote:
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?

Yeah..I really liked him then but there was a huge drop off in Denver..He wasn't playing with the same energy..Same thing in Portland..He can be a good 20 mins a night guy on a good team..

You know that he had some dispute with Shaw right?


He didn't have the explosiveness or that extra gear in Denver he had in Orlando..Same thing in Portland..He lost a step..You wouldn't be able to get that player in Orlando for 8 mil per..

Exactly who played well in denver last season before the coach got fired for not elevating his players, and affalo was a damn near a 4th option after lillard(scoring pg) LMA, and batum, plus no training camp and just kind of winging it.

Calerdon was considered a very accurate shooter and was pretty durable before he got here last season. Now he's a crackhead shooter, who cant stay healthy, that label came after 6 months despite 7 yrs of proving otherwise..smh..crazy

The coach has nothing to do with how a player look physically.. He wasn't the same energy player in Denver or in Portland that he was in Orlando..Ask yourself if the player in Orlando can be had for 8 mil per in this new economic environment?..No...

I mean lin got 20+ million after 3wks of lights out basketball.

I seriously doubt anyone on this board truly paid any real attn to affalo last seaon in denver to call him out, your basing it on stats more than anything and that never tells the whole story

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8/5/2015  10:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/5/2015  10:22 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
stopstandthere wrote:
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?

Yeah..I really liked him then but there was a huge drop off in Denver..He wasn't playing with the same energy..Same thing in Portland..He can be a good 20 mins a night guy on a good team..

You know that he had some dispute with Shaw right?


He didn't have the explosiveness or that extra gear in Denver he had in Orlando..Same thing in Portland..He lost a step..You wouldn't be able to get that player in Orlando for 8 mil per..

Exactly who played well in denver last season before the coach got fired for not elevating his players, and affalo was a damn near a 4th option after lillard(scoring pg) LMA, and batum, plus no training camp and just kind of winging it.

Calerdon was considered a very accurate shooter and was pretty durable before he got here last season. Now he's a crackhead shooter, who cant stay healthy, that label came after 6 months despite 7 yrs of proving otherwise..smh..crazy

The coach has nothing to do with how a player look physically.. He wasn't the same energy player in Denver or in Portland that he was in Orlando..Ask yourself if the player in Orlando can be had for 8 mil per in this new economic environment?..No...

I mean lin got 20+ million after 3wks of lights out basketball.

I seriously doubt anyone on this board truly paid any real attn to affalo last seaon in denver to call him out, your basing it on stats more than anything and that never tells the whole story

Well I'm telling you I was paying attention to him last year..He was on my radar since Orlando..Yellowboy90 was a huge fan of his in Orlando..Ask yellowboy about Affalo..We both cooled off after his performance in Denver and then in Portland..You don't have to believe, you will see it soon enough..

Houston paid the highs to get Lin..

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8/5/2015  11:04 PM
holfresh wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
holfresh wrote:
stopstandthere wrote:
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:^^^wasnt that the 13-14 season?

Yeah..I really liked him then but there was a huge drop off in Denver..He wasn't playing with the same energy..Same thing in Portland..He can be a good 20 mins a night guy on a good team..

You know that he had some dispute with Shaw right?


He didn't have the explosiveness or that extra gear in Denver he had in Orlando..Same thing in Portland..He lost a step..You wouldn't be able to get that player in Orlando for 8 mil per..

Exactly who played well in denver last season before the coach got fired for not elevating his players, and affalo was a damn near a 4th option after lillard(scoring pg) LMA, and batum, plus no training camp and just kind of winging it.

Calerdon was considered a very accurate shooter and was pretty durable before he got here last season. Now he's a crackhead shooter, who cant stay healthy, that label came after 6 months despite 7 yrs of proving otherwise..smh..crazy

The coach has nothing to do with how a player look physically.. He wasn't the same energy player in Denver or in Portland that he was in Orlando..Ask yourself if the player in Orlando can be had for 8 mil per in this new economic environment?..No...

I mean lin got 20+ million after 3wks of lights out basketball.

I seriously doubt anyone on this board truly paid any real attn to affalo last seaon in denver to call him out, your basing it on stats more than anything and that never tells the whole story

Well I'm telling you I was paying attention to him last year..He was on my radar since Orlando..Yellowboy90 was a huge fan of his in Orlando..Ask yellowboy about Affalo..We both cooled off after his performance in Denver and then in Portland..You don't have to believe, you will see it soon enough..

Houston paid the highs to get Lin..

Be real, the Orlando Afflalo is misleading and that was not the real Afflalo. He was forced to step up and became the first option in MJ's mode. Actually he was heavily criticized by the Magic's fans since he chucked and played ISO.

We better refer to the Afflalo while he was in Denver (not the second time).

without melo, affalo doesn't sined

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