nixluva wrote:

TPercy wrote:

fishmike wrote:

TPercy wrote:We need one more pg . Galloway is
sg. Calderon was a solid pg before he joined the Knicks. Maybe he retains his form from Dallas and Toronto

The Calderon hate here is funny. He was hurt last year. The year before he was the starting PG on a 50 win team in the West with excellent stats, both traditional and advanced.

Maybe Jose has crossed that magical line of 33 years old when he can no longer be expected to even heal from an injury or remember how to play basktball.

I don't hate Calderon . I was just saying that before hand he was a solid pg. Horrible defender but a. Very efficient shooter. They need to stop putting him in mid range situations and keep on running. The pick and pops with zinger and run the dribble hands offs at the 3pt line for him to get his 3 ball off.

Jose was for his career and excellent shooter. Last year was the only time that he had a drop in his production from mid range. IMO this was just a worst case scenario last year. Everything went wrong. Jose's career FG% is 47.5% and his career 3pt% is 41.2%. There's really no reason that we should expect that Jose if healthy shouldn't be able to put up some excellent shooting numbers.

This is an example of what Jose can do if healthy and you can see it doesn't matter that he's not quick or athletic if he at least has his legs.

Look at how he's moving and you can tell that he's healthy at this time. It's easy to forget what he actually looks like when healthy after how he ended last year.

Rookie wrote:I think we are overlooking the big picture here. We are not going to exactly be an offensive juggernaut. The team is being built on defense which should help us be competitive to some degree. It really doesn't matter what positions we add, C or PG, who cares. Knicks need some offensive weapons, guys who can make you guard them because they can hit their shots consistently for a high percentage. The only legitimate scoring option we have is Melo and he is inefficient. The only way we win is if one or two of the other guys (Caulderon/Afflalo/KP/Grant/Williams)have career years. Just adding (insert random Center and PG) isn't going to raise the talent level on this team. What we have are building blocks and if all goes well, maybe a 36-38 win team. I think most people on this message board accept that. You have to start somewhere. This team is better then last years team. Next years team should be better then this years team.

nixluva wrote:

Rookie wrote:I think we are overlooking the big picture here. We are not going to exactly be an offensive juggernaut. The team is being built on defense which should help us be competitive to some degree. It really doesn't matter what positions we add, C or PG, who cares. Knicks need some offensive weapons, guys who can make you guard them because they can hit their shots consistently for a high percentage. The only legitimate scoring option we have is Melo and he is inefficient. The only way we win is if one or two of the other guys (Caulderon/Afflalo/KP/Grant/Williams)have career years. Just adding (insert random Center and PG) isn't going to raise the talent level on this team. What we have are building blocks and if all goes well, maybe a 36-38 win team. I think most people on this message board accept that. You have to start somewhere. This team is better then last years team. Next years team should be better then this years team.

I agree that this roster isn't designed to be a great offensive team. You just look at the options and all you see are a lot of OK guys outside of Melo. Afflalo has been a guy who can score at a #2 option level. So Melo could give us 24-28 pts and Afflalo between 15-18 pts. So that's the top 2 IMO. I think with an enhanced role RoLo can be about 9-12 pts. Jose can also put up 9-12 pts.

The options for Offensive upside are KP, Jerian, DWill, Early and Ledo. Those players have the kind of offensive talent that can actually put up some points if they get going. So while it's no guarantee that this team will be able to put up points, there is a lot of upside if our young players get it going this year. This is obviously the plan. Fish wants to play faster and I believe our young players will help the team do that.

Win or lose, this will be a fun season as a fan.

Rookie wrote:

nixluva wrote:

Rookie wrote:I think we are overlooking the big picture here. We are not going to exactly be an offensive juggernaut. The team is being built on defense which should help us be competitive to some degree. It really doesn't matter what positions we add, C or PG, who cares. Knicks need some offensive weapons, guys who can make you guard them because they can hit their shots consistently for a high percentage. The only legitimate scoring option we have is Melo and he is inefficient. The only way we win is if one or two of the other guys (Caulderon/Afflalo/KP/Grant/Williams)have career years. Just adding (insert random Center and PG) isn't going to raise the talent level on this team. What we have are building blocks and if all goes well, maybe a 36-38 win team. I think most people on this message board accept that. You have to start somewhere. This team is better then last years team. Next years team should be better then this years team.

I agree that this roster isn't designed to be a great offensive team. You just look at the options and all you see are a lot of OK guys outside of Melo. Afflalo has been a guy who can score at a #2 option level. So Melo could give us 24-28 pts and Afflalo between 15-18 pts. So that's the top 2 IMO. I think with an enhanced role RoLo can be about 9-12 pts. Jose can also put up 9-12 pts.

The options for Offensive upside are KP, Jerian, DWill, Early and Ledo. Those players have the kind of offensive talent that can actually put up some points if they get going. So while it's no guarantee that this team will be able to put up points, there is a lot of upside if our young players get it going this year. This is obviously the plan. Fish wants to play faster and I believe our young players will help the team do that.

Win or lose, this will be a fun season as a fan.

KP is the only guy who is young enough to have an excuse for him having some issues adjusting to the next level. Even Jerian should be able to show some good production in his rookie year since he'll be 23 at the start of the year and a solidly mature young player. They don't have to be superstars of course but it would be good to see some real growth this year from our young players.