anrst wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Stop reading Frank Isola....

Stop reading Frank Isola

Stop reading Frank Isola

you're letting your hate for Isola's hate blind the fact that melo deserves hate.

i was big time in melo's camp up until the knee/all-star game b.s.

Melo might have his issues and branding is one, but you can flip it also that the dude will play hurt and give his all to represent the team. Either way its bull****. I rather not dwell on either. Knicks are in great shape. We need to focus on how this team is going to play come November.

Add this to his comments on the draft and free agency, and a situation that was already awkward, becomes even more so.

All he had to do was show up one day and say hi to our free agents and SL players.

If he wanted to show his displeasure with Jackson he could have done the handshake and walkaway move that Cousins did to Karl.

You guys can stick your collective heads in the sand or make comments about how people shouldn't read Isola, but a rift has developed between our "star" and Phil Jackson, and any status Anthony had a a leader on this Knicks' team, which was already minimal to begin with, has been severely damaged.

Anthony had 2 opportunities to make calls or use social media to congratulate our new draftees and free agent, and he failed to do the right thing at the right time. He could have redeemed himself with a simple visit to Vegas...and he failed again.

What's next?

dk7th wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:The fact that the Anthony/SL issue was talked about elsewhere might make this particular thread redundant, but it does not diminish the significance of his SL snub and the message it sends to the Knicks' brass and its players.

Add this to his comments on the draft and free agency, and a situation that was already awkward, becomes even more so.

All he had to do was show up one day and say hi to our free agents and SL players.

If he wanted to show his displeasure with Jackson he could have done the handshake and walkaway move that Cousins did to Karl.

You guys can stick your collective heads in the sand or make comments about how people shouldn't read Isola, but a rift has developed between our "star" and Phil Jackson, and any status Anthony had a a leader on this Knicks' team, which was already minimal to begin with, has been severely damaged.

Anthony had 2 opportunities to make calls or use social media to congratulate our new draftees and free agent, and he failed to do the right thing at the right time. He could have redeemed himself with a simple visit to Vegas...and he failed again.

What's next?

marbury 2.0

Marbury bought suits for rookies Channing Frye, David Lee, and Nate Robinson. As well as attended summer league. Which shows the correlation to these leadership tactics and winning during the season :/.

Melo can do all these things but it wouldn't matter if the season turns to crap and nobody would care if he did all these things in summer league if the season turns to crap. I don't care if he shows up to Vegas or buys rookies suits or reaches out to rookies. When the season starts though I care about tangible things that prove they contribute to winning like more effort moving the ball and getting teammates involved. He can ignore rookies all summer for all I care. But he does need to up those assist numbers to 5+ a game. That's what he should be held accountable for.

WaltLongmire wrote:The fact that the Anthony/SL issue was talked about elsewhere might make this particular thread redundant, but it does not diminish the significance of his SL snub and the message it sends to the Knicks' brass and its players.

Add this to his comments on the draft and free agency, and a situation that was already awkward, becomes even more so.

All he had to do was show up one day and say hi to our free agents and SL players.

If he wanted to show his displeasure with Jackson he could have done the handshake and walkaway move that Cousins did to Karl.

You guys can stick your collective heads in the sand or make comments about how people shouldn't read Isola, but a rift has developed between our "star" and Phil Jackson, and any status Anthony had a a leader on this Knicks' team, which was already minimal to begin with, has been severely damaged.

Anthony had 2 opportunities to make calls or use social media to congratulate our new draftees and free agent, and he failed to do the right thing at the right time. He could have redeemed himself with a simple visit to Vegas...and he failed again.

What's next?

The 'message' it sends is entirely your own projection.

Fact: he is on vacation.

That's it- he never goes to Summer league. He has been rehabbing, he's now taking a vacation, because when he gets back his rehab is getting ramped up. CP3 wasn't at summer league- does that mean he doesn't approve of the Clippers moves this offseason? Where was Wade? Was he sending a message that he is unhappy with the Heats moves.

He wasn't vacationing in Las Vegas- it wouldn't be a matter of him 'just turning up' for a day, it would mean ending his vacation, flying over just to shake hands to allay the fears of insecure players and fans. Have you ever been called by work in the middle of a vacation and expected to do some work stuff? It absolutely ruins the holiday!

Melo should cancel his vacation and fly back to disprove some stories the media has made up to pass the time? Remember when the media claimed that Melo and Tim Jr hated each other and Melo and Tim Jr shouted at each other in the middle of last season? Now suddenly they are best friends and he's devastated about him being traded away! They make up drama all the time, and often it's contradictory.

"Summer League! We talkin' bout Summer League! Not the Regular Season, But Summer League!!!!!!"

Uptown wrote:So LeBron shows up on the last day of Summer League (as I mentioned earlier, he was only in town for the NBA Players Awards) and now Melo is called out as if every single star in the NBA has been in attendance? Marc Gasol is in Spain. Why no criticism of him? Wheres Blake Griffin and Chris Paul? Where's D Rose? Harden? D Howard! Kobe is exempt because he has rings? Last I checked, Lakers had one of the worse seasons in their history, similar to the Knicks. Why isn't he building team chemistry with Russell and Randle? The idea that Melo is being criticized for not being at summer league is a joke and as Fishmike phrased it, "a witch hunt"

"Summer League! We talkin' bout Summer League! Not the Regular Season, But Summer League!!!!!!"

he is being called out for talking ****-- he has a blatant history of foot in mouth disease-- about the draft pick and not doing something substantive and constructive to undo the harm done. he needs to demonstrate some leadership and selflessness.

when asked how to be a good leader, bill russell responded by saying "be a good servant of others."

your stance implies that you accept the fact that melo is no leader so he should be exempt from trying to be one....

Uptown wrote:So LeBron shows up on the last day of Summer League (as I mentioned earlier, he was only in town for the NBA Players Awards) and now Melo is called out as if every single star in the NBA has been in attendance? Marc Gasol is in Spain. Why no criticism of him? Wheres Blake Griffin and Chris Paul? Where's D Rose? Harden? D Howard! Kobe is exempt because he has rings? Last I checked, Lakers had one of the worse seasons in their history, similar to the Knicks. Why isn't he building team chemistry with Russell and Randle? The idea that Melo is being criticized for not being at summer league is a joke and as Fishmike phrased it, "a witch hunt"

"Summer League! We talkin' bout Summer League! Not the Regular Season, But Summer League!!!!!!"

Not sure you want to associate Anthony with AI, IMO.

Not sure any of the players you mentioned made critical comments about their team's draft and FA signings.

Griffin was perhaps the guy who convinced Jordan to return, and was involved in this affair.

LeBron was the GM for the Cavs, not sure what else he could do for the team.

Same question:

Forget about whether Anthony "should" or "should not" have attended...

Assuming that he had the time...

Would it have been better for the team's chemistry if he had shown up? Yes or No?

WaltLongmire wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:The fact that the Anthony/SL issue was talked about elsewhere might make this particular thread redundant, but it does not diminish the significance of his SL snub and the message it sends to the Knicks' brass and its players.

Add this to his comments on the draft and free agency, and a situation that was already awkward, becomes even more so.

All he had to do was show up one day and say hi to our free agents and SL players.

If he wanted to show his displeasure with Jackson he could have done the handshake and walkaway move that Cousins did to Karl.

You guys can stick your collective heads in the sand or make comments about how people shouldn't read Isola, but a rift has developed between our "star" and Phil Jackson, and any status Anthony had a a leader on this Knicks' team, which was already minimal to begin with, has been severely damaged.

Anthony had 2 opportunities to make calls or use social media to congratulate our new draftees and free agent, and he failed to do the right thing at the right time. He could have redeemed himself with a simple visit to Vegas...and he failed again.

What's next?

The 'message' it sends is entirely your own projection.

Fact: he is on vacation.

That's it- he never goes to Summer league. He has been rehabbing, he's now taking a vacation, because when he gets back his rehab is getting ramped up. CP3 wasn't at summer league- does that mean he doesn't approve of the Clippers moves this offseason? Where was Wade? Was he sending a message that he is unhappy with the Heats moves.

He wasn't vacationing in Las Vegas- it wouldn't be a matter of him 'just turning up' for a day, it would mean ending his vacation, flying over just to shake hands to allay the fears of insecure players and fans. Have you ever been called by work in the middle of a vacation and expected to do some work stuff? It absolutely ruins the holiday!

Melo should cancel his vacation and fly back to disprove some stories the media has made up to pass the time? Remember when the media claimed that Melo and Tim Jr hated each other and Melo and Tim Jr shouted at each other in the middle of last season? Now suddenly they are best friends and he's devastated about him being traded away! They make up drama all the time, and often it's contradictory.

Simple question.

Let's not consider whether he "should" or "should not" have attended...

Lets forget that Anthony, in one way or another, let his opinions be known about our draft and our FA signings, unlike Paul.

Assuming that he had the time...

Would it have been better for the team's chemistry if he had shown up? Yes or No?

It would have made no difference- what difference does it honestly make if he sees them today, next week, next month? About 3 or 4 summer league players will make the team, of those Melo has been known Early for 1 year- how is a trip to vegas going to impact their relationship?! He met and worked out with Porzingis just before the draft- duo you really think Porzingis needs to see his face every week?

Uptown wrote:

dk7th wrote:

Uptown wrote:So LeBron shows up on the last day of Summer League (as I mentioned earlier, he was only in town for the NBA Players Awards) and now Melo is called out as if every single star in the NBA has been in attendance? Marc Gasol is in Spain. Why no criticism of him? Wheres Blake Griffin and Chris Paul? Where's D Rose? Harden? D Howard! Kobe is exempt because he has rings? Last I checked, Lakers had one of the worse seasons in their history, similar to the Knicks. Why isn't he building team chemistry with Russell and Randle? The idea that Melo is being criticized for not being at summer league is a joke and as Fishmike phrased it, "a witch hunt"

"Summer League! We talkin' bout Summer League! Not the Regular Season, But Summer League!!!!!!"

he is being called out for talking ****-- he has a blatant history of foot in mouth disease-- about the draft pick and not doing something substantive and constructive to undo the harm done. he needs to demonstrate some leadership and selflessness.

when asked how to be a good leader, bill russell responded by saying "be a good servant of others."

your stance implies that you accept the fact that melo is no leader so he should be exempt from trying to be one....

There aren't any direct quotes from Melo abut not liking the pick....that was media trying to read into something that wasn't there or trying to read the minds or players and coaches and you ate it up to satisfy your Melo-hate-appetite. On his instagram page, Melo said that the pick was a steal, but you ignore that. KP's bro said that Melo reached out to him, bt=ut you ignore that as well...or twist it into being some type of damage control tactic....

right so we don't have a direct quote of his being upset as that is all rumor-mongering.

stephen a. smith: "I talking to my sources last night. All they said was, he’s furious. He’s livid. He feels completely hoodwinked and betrayed by Phil Jackson. He feels like he was lied to, like he was sold a bill of goods. He knew that he couldn’t get as money anywhere else, and he’s willing to concede that he wanted his money. But he didn’t know it was going to be like this. He didn’t know it was going to be this bad. And he can’t believe that his second season under the Phil Jackson regime, he has to look forward to it being worse than even last year was."

Carmelo Anthony himself tweeted: “What’s understood doesn’t need to be spoken upon” #DestiNY #TheFutureIsNow.

but the damage control from the rumor-mongering is to be taken at face value. in other words, later Anthony tweeted of Porzingis, “I can’t wait either. He’s a steal.’’

believe what you wish-- the way melo conducts himself during the season will tell us the truth....

WaltLongmire wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:The fact that the Anthony/SL issue was talked about elsewhere might make this particular thread redundant, but it does not diminish the significance of his SL snub and the message it sends to the Knicks' brass and its players.

Add this to his comments on the draft and free agency, and a situation that was already awkward, becomes even more so.

All he had to do was show up one day and say hi to our free agents and SL players.

If he wanted to show his displeasure with Jackson he could have done the handshake and walkaway move that Cousins did to Karl.

You guys can stick your collective heads in the sand or make comments about how people shouldn't read Isola, but a rift has developed between our "star" and Phil Jackson, and any status Anthony had a a leader on this Knicks' team, which was already minimal to begin with, has been severely damaged.

Anthony had 2 opportunities to make calls or use social media to congratulate our new draftees and free agent, and he failed to do the right thing at the right time. He could have redeemed himself with a simple visit to Vegas...and he failed again.

What's next?

The 'message' it sends is entirely your own projection.

Fact: he is on vacation.

That's it- he never goes to Summer league. He has been rehabbing, he's now taking a vacation, because when he gets back his rehab is getting ramped up. CP3 wasn't at summer league- does that mean he doesn't approve of the Clippers moves this offseason? Where was Wade? Was he sending a message that he is unhappy with the Heats moves.

He wasn't vacationing in Las Vegas- it wouldn't be a matter of him 'just turning up' for a day, it would mean ending his vacation, flying over just to shake hands to allay the fears of insecure players and fans. Have you ever been called by work in the middle of a vacation and expected to do some work stuff? It absolutely ruins the holiday!

Melo should cancel his vacation and fly back to disprove some stories the media has made up to pass the time? Remember when the media claimed that Melo and Tim Jr hated each other and Melo and Tim Jr shouted at each other in the middle of last season? Now suddenly they are best friends and he's devastated about him being traded away! They make up drama all the time, and often it's contradictory.

Simple question.

Let's not consider whether he "should" or "should not" have attended...

Lets forget that Anthony, in one way or another, let his opinions be known about our draft and our FA signings, unlike Paul.

Assuming that he had the time...

Would it have been better for the team's chemistry if he had shown up? Yes or No?