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7/17/2015  1:22 PM
nixluva wrote:
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Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.


Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.


One big name free agent changed teams this year which was LMA who went to San Antonio and people act like a bunch of big names changed teams and Phil missed out on them. It's ridiculous.

The media is most responsible for this narrative. A few fans are stuck in that mindset but I think a growing percentage of fans are starting to realize what Phil has done this summer.

+1

Not a bad job for an irrelevant, old triangulating goober who's stuck in the '70's.

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7/17/2015  1:24 PM
Uptown wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Anthony still had to buy into Phil's master plan...


Do you guys think that at this point in his career he's willing to drop under 20PPG and maybe average 4+APG, for the first time in his career?

Would be be satisfied if he was the second leading scorer on the team?

Would he be willing to miss being voted into an All-Star game because he is playing a more team oriented game?


Just something to think about.

the same question is asked and answered every year. I think that we have to temper our expectations. Melo likes buckets not dimes.

I dont think this is the ideal unit to drop below 20 pts per and still expect W's...We dont have any other consistent or reliable options to get buckets...We can preach ball movement, which is great, but unfortunately we dont have the same the of talent as the Hawks, etc.

You can win mostly by defending, ball movement, and making a high % of your Free throws.

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7/17/2015  1:29 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Anthony still had to buy into Phil's master plan...


Do you guys think that at this point in his career he's willing to drop under 20PPG and maybe average 4+APG, for the first time in his career?

Would be be satisfied if he was the second leading scorer on the team?

Would he be willing to miss being voted into an All-Star game because he is playing a more team oriented game?


Just something to think about.

the same question is asked and answered every year. I think that we have to temper our expectations. Melo likes buckets not dimes.

I dont think this is the ideal unit to drop below 20 pts per and still expect W's...We dont have any other consistent or reliable options to get buckets...We can preach ball movement, which is great, but unfortunately we dont have the same the of talent as the Hawks, etc.

You can win mostly by defending, ball movement, and making a high % of your Free throws.

And maybe finally getting even just 25% of the calls the Beard gets.

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7/17/2015  1:32 PM
jrodmc wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Uptown wrote:
mreinman wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:Anthony still had to buy into Phil's master plan...


Do you guys think that at this point in his career he's willing to drop under 20PPG and maybe average 4+APG, for the first time in his career?

Would be be satisfied if he was the second leading scorer on the team?

Would he be willing to miss being voted into an All-Star game because he is playing a more team oriented game?


Just something to think about.

the same question is asked and answered every year. I think that we have to temper our expectations. Melo likes buckets not dimes.

I dont think this is the ideal unit to drop below 20 pts per and still expect W's...We dont have any other consistent or reliable options to get buckets...We can preach ball movement, which is great, but unfortunately we dont have the same the of talent as the Hawks, etc.

You can win mostly by defending, ball movement, and making a high % of your Free throws.

And maybe finally getting even just 25% of the calls the Beard gets.

maybe if melo learn to flop like the beard/pu$$y he would get some calls. Being a pu$$y is really not great for the brand.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/17/2015  1:41 PM
I agree phil is setting up melo for a good future. Unfortunetly i get the feeling he is too stubborn or dumb to realize it
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7/17/2015  2:07 PM
Carmelo is experiencing with the same feeling Jordan did early on with Phil the coach. People tends to forget, Jordan was not really to receptive to the triangular system early on; thus, I do expect the same from Carmelo. Too bad Phil is not coaching.
Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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7/17/2015  2:09 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:Carmelo is experiencing with the same feeling Jordan did early on with Phil the coach. People tends to forget, Jordan was not really to receptive to the triangular system early on; thus, I do expect the same from Carmelo. Too bad Phil is not coaching.
cant compare them. Jordan obviously is the legend and melo is a very good scorer which are way more common
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7/17/2015  2:20 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Carmelo is experiencing with the same feeling Jordan did early on with Phil the coach. People tends to forget, Jordan was not really to receptive to the triangular system early on; thus, I do expect the same from Carmelo. Too bad Phil is not coaching.
cant compare them. Jordan obviously is the legend and melo is a very good scorer which are way more common

Jordan was not viewed as a legend until Phil took over the ball club and they won their first championship. If you recall, Jordan was regarded as a deadly scorer

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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7/17/2015  2:22 PM
Melo should love the triangle. It gives him the face up jumper that he really likes.
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7/17/2015  2:26 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:Carmelo is experiencing with the same feeling Jordan did early on with Phil the coach. People tends to forget, Jordan was not really to receptive to the triangular system early on; thus, I do expect the same from Carmelo. Too bad Phil is not coaching.
cant compare them. Jordan obviously is the legend and melo is a very good scorer which are way more common

Jordan was not viewed as a legend until Phil took over the ball club and they won their first championship. If you recall, Jordan was regarded as a deadly scorer

jordan was always a better overall player. Also melo is 31 and coming off a big injury. He can still have some good years but his best days are probably behind him
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7/17/2015  2:35 PM
I can't believe I just read Carmelo Anthony and Michael Jordan in the same sentence LOL.

Even before Phil, MJ made All NBA 1st teams and All NBA Defense 1st teams....no comparison really.

As far as the system goes, Melo has cutters(D-Will), wings and shooters(Afflalo and Calderon), pick and roll men(RoLo and O'Quinn), pick and poppers(Kristaps)....a veritable smorgasborg of options that should in theory enhance his and the teams game.

Really is up to him.

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7/17/2015  2:42 PM
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Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.


Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

Melo also said that he and MDA got along swimmingly and that he had no idea that there was an issue.

everybody spins.

That's because MDA is extremely passive aggressive, a horrible communicator and would never let his true feelings show bluntly due to fear of confrontation.

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7/17/2015  3:06 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:I can't believe I just read Carmelo Anthony and Michael Jordan in the same sentence LOL.

Even before Phil, MJ made All NBA 1st teams and All NBA Defense 1st teams....no comparison really.

As far as the system goes, Melo has cutters(D-Will), wings and shooters(Afflalo and Calderon), pick and roll men(RoLo and O'Quinn), pick and poppers(Kristaps)....a veritable smorgasborg of options that should in theory enhance his and the teams game.

Really is up to him.

Dude, no one here would dare to compare Carmelo to Jordan

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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7/17/2015  3:07 PM
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mreinman wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.


Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

Melo also said that he and MDA got along swimmingly and that he had no idea that there was an issue.

everybody spins.

That's because MDA is extremely passive aggressive, a horrible communicator and would never let his true feelings show bluntly due to fear of confrontation.

I think that you just described Melo to a T

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/17/2015  3:07 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
mreinman wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.


Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

Melo also said that he and MDA got along swimmingly and that he had no idea that there was an issue.

everybody spins.

That's because MDA is extremely passive aggressive, a horrible communicator and would never let his true feelings show bluntly due to fear of confrontation.

MDA gets a bad rap. Dude didn't have all these negative opinions until he came to NY. His players loved him in PHX. He had issues with Amar'e because Amar'e was horrid on D. We came to find that out ourselves. Melo was clearly not giving his all when he was asked to take more responsibility. The ball was in his hands a lot and he actually was getting more assists under MDA but he was also resistant to the changes. If Melo had fully bought in there's no telling how good the team could've been. The biggest issue MDA had was the lack of a real PG. If they had given him a legit PG he would've won a lot of games in NY.

Melo has a chance to finish out his career in NY on a very positive note. This roster is young but there are some talented players and some hard workers on the roster. All Melo has to do is lead them on the court and Locker room in a positive manner. Take joy in his role as the top dog and help his young teammates to succeed. It's all on him to make the most of this.

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7/17/2015  3:24 PM
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
mreinman wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.


Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

Melo also said that he and MDA got along swimmingly and that he had no idea that there was an issue.

everybody spins.

That's because MDA is extremely passive aggressive, a horrible communicator and would never let his true feelings show bluntly due to fear of confrontation.

I think that you just described Melo to a T

Its funny you said that cuz I was going to post Melo is the same way as a follow up.

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7/17/2015  3:24 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
mreinman wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.


Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

Melo also said that he and MDA got along swimmingly and that he had no idea that there was an issue.

everybody spins.

That's because MDA is extremely passive aggressive, a horrible communicator and would never let his true feelings show bluntly due to fear of confrontation.

I think that you just described Melo to a T

Its funny you said that cuz I was going to post Melo is the same way as a follow up.

haha ... great minds :-)

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/17/2015  3:25 PM
nixluva wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
mreinman wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.


Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

Melo also said that he and MDA got along swimmingly and that he had no idea that there was an issue.

everybody spins.

That's because MDA is extremely passive aggressive, a horrible communicator and would never let his true feelings show bluntly due to fear of confrontation.

MDA gets a bad rap. Dude didn't have all these negative opinions until he came to NY. His players loved him in PHX. He had issues with Amar'e because Amar'e was horrid on D. We came to find that out ourselves. Melo was clearly not giving his all when he was asked to take more responsibility. The ball was in his hands a lot and he actually was getting more assists under MDA but he was also resistant to the changes. If Melo had fully bought in there's no telling how good the team could've been. The biggest issue MDA had was the lack of a real PG. If they had given him a legit PG he would've won a lot of games in NY.

Melo has a chance to finish out his career in NY on a very positive note. This roster is young but there are some talented players and some hard workers on the roster. All Melo has to do is lead them on the court and Locker room in a positive manner. Take joy in his role as the top dog and help his young teammates to succeed. It's all on him to make the most of this.

It is who he is. There isn't a coach out there that can't win with a Steve Nash. Meanwhile guys like Phil were able to mold personalities into winners.

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7/17/2015  3:45 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
nixluva wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
mreinman wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.


Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

Melo also said that he and MDA got along swimmingly and that he had no idea that there was an issue.

everybody spins.

That's because MDA is extremely passive aggressive, a horrible communicator and would never let his true feelings show bluntly due to fear of confrontation.

MDA gets a bad rap. Dude didn't have all these negative opinions until he came to NY. His players loved him in PHX. He had issues with Amar'e because Amar'e was horrid on D. We came to find that out ourselves. Melo was clearly not giving his all when he was asked to take more responsibility. The ball was in his hands a lot and he actually was getting more assists under MDA but he was also resistant to the changes. If Melo had fully bought in there's no telling how good the team could've been. The biggest issue MDA had was the lack of a real PG. If they had given him a legit PG he would've won a lot of games in NY.

Melo has a chance to finish out his career in NY on a very positive note. This roster is young but there are some talented players and some hard workers on the roster. All Melo has to do is lead them on the court and Locker room in a positive manner. Take joy in his role as the top dog and help his young teammates to succeed. It's all on him to make the most of this.

It is who he is. There isn't a coach out there that can't win with a Steve Nash. Meanwhile guys like Phil were able to mold personalities into winners.

Steve Nash wasn't a 2 time MVP until he got with MDA. All of Nash's stats increased under MDA and Nash gives MDA credit for helping him reach his full potential. Trust me there's very few things I don't know about how MDA and Nash worked together. MDA really had a perfect pairing with Nash. Why do you think they went after Nash in the 1st place?

Yet if anyone was never going to forget about Nash's greatness, it was the man who was with him during the highest of highs and the lowest of lows: coach Mike D'Antoni.

To say D'Antoni spent six seasons as Nash's coach while with the Phoenix Suns and the Lakers doesn't do it justice. They were as compatible a player-coach combo as the game has ever seen – a quarterback and his offensive coordinator, as Sports Illustrated's Jack McCallum wrote in his book about those Suns teams, "Seven Seconds or Less." Theirs is a mutual admiration society born out of their shared glory in Phoenix, where the Suns' electric style from 2004 to 2008 may not have led to a championship but made a lasting mark on the league nonetheless.

D'Antoni, who is hoping to get back into the NBA and is expected to be a candidate for the Denver Nuggets position this summer, reflected on Nash's career in an interview with USA TODAY Sports.

Q: So we've known this was coming for a while now, but what was it like to see it finally, officially, come to an end for Steve?

A: "Well I think like you said, it brought up a lot of memories – a lot of good memories, and what's right about sports and basketball and people. We had an incredible four years together, some of the best moments that I've had, and I'm 63. So to be able to go back this week and relive them a little bit, and think about things, and see also just the outcome of that chance (where) he came to us that is great. It's great. It's great memories … There were a lot of tough times, where we lost and almost got there and all that. But you know what? Hanging out with him and trying to create something is what remains, and it was super."

Q: What was your relationship like with Steve when he signed in 2004? And then what was your approach to creating the relationship that (writer) Jack McCallum once described as the quarterback-offensive coordinator type relationship (in his book on the D'Antoni-Nash Phoenix Suns titled "Seven Seconds or Less")?

A: "I didn't know Steve at all. I'd run into him, like everybody else in the NBA. You run into him, say 'hi.' And he's really a pleasant guy, so you think you know him even though you really don't. But I think the first step was just the incredible luck (where) we were able to bring him back to Phoenix. A little bit of everything. We definitely targeted him as our No. 1 guy, and yet at the same time we didn't think that (he would come). Steve is very loyal, and he really wanted to go back to Dallas, but it didn't work out with them for whatever reason, and so we were able to latch onto him. And from there, he fit in to what we envisioned, how we wanted to play, and he just took it to the best level that he could at that time. And like everything, we were extremely lucky to get someone like him, because his philosophy of how he wanted to play in the sense of being supportive – he was a great teammate, and creating an atmosphere that we're always as coaches trying to seek, where you're building the bonds and the relationships where it really goes above winning and losing and it goes into the unit, the team. He maximized all that."

Q: Did you know all in that he would be all-in when it came to that approach? I can't imagine it was a tough sales job when you told Steve what you wanted to do.

A: "Well you know I think we both kind of pushed the envelope a little bit. It was so new back then, and everybody was really against it. Other coaches around (were against it). We were kind of going against the wind and against the prevailing philosophies. So being a newer coach here, and having a team, thank God I had the backing of the Colangelos when we first started. And we just kind of pushed it together, in the sense of, 'Well maybe we can do that. Maybe yeah, let's go.' I kept gaining more confidence in him, and vice versa. And we were able to play off each other.

"To be honest with you, we could have even pushed it further. I think that just being first in the water, we didn't go to the deep end real quick. It took a while to get to the deep end. But we could have been more, a little bit better approach at that if we had the analytic backing that they're showing you today. We could have been more creative. But being the first out, I'm proud of how it went."

Q: So five seconds or less, then?

A: "Yeah, really. But he was the perfect partner. And his version of the game, and how he wanted to play, and how he wanted to treat his teammates, his team. And it was perfect. It went exactly the way that I thought it should be done. It was what it was, and we were extremely proud of it."

Q: I'm going to steal another passage from Jack's book. The expression "Sputare sangue" – the "spit blood" Italian saying that he writes about that one of your old coaches, (former Milan coach) Dan Peterson, had put in you and something that you and Steve had in common. In terms of Steve's career, do you feel like that part of who he was and the way he competed might get lost sometimes? We focus so much on the fancy passing and the shooting and the shooting and all that, but we forget that when it comes to being a competitor, this guy was just something else.

A: "Right. I agree with you 100 percent. I told people the other day that everybody could see him coming down and how we played and the ball whipping around, and it's pretty and very cosmetic. But what they didn't see was his spirit in the weight room with the other players, when times were tough on the bench, in the locker room, when plays would go bad and we were ready to have a "OK guys, we've got to play better defense" or whatever it is kind of meeting, he would just stand up and say, 'Listen, my fault. I didn't play well enough. We'll do better.' So he took responsibility. They didn't see the little things, how coach-able he was, how we could explore different things together, how he taught me things and I could teach him stuff. Just an easy back and forth and trying to get the most out of what we had, and I thought for the most part we did. And a lot of that is his character, his competitiveness, and just what he brought to the game."


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7/17/2015  3:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/17/2015  3:48 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
nixluva wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
mreinman wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:To be a success for a very long time. Although I don't think Carmelo realizes it, but if you look at the talents Phil has assembled this season, you can easily see that he had Carmelo in mind. He knows Carmelo's strengths and weaknesses; to complement both, he amassed guys who can defend and are not selfish ballers. He even went as far as solving the leadership issues in my opinion and that will definitely make the Knicks a much better team next season.

Now all we need is for Carmelo to show support and assume his responsibility. We know he can score and rebound the ball; what we all want to see now is how much he truly wants to win. He needs to learn to share the ball a little and that remains to be seen.

Phil did a terrible job in his first year, but he appears to have learned from his mistakes.

What makes you think he doesn't realize, it's ridiculous that the media can post a speculated assumption that melo is somewhat not on board, and people run with that like melo this and melo that... but then when melo comes right out on social media and states he has no issues with what phil is doing, people brush it under the rug and roll their eyes.


Then there guys like stephen a, barkley, k mart, who critic phil for not landing a big name FA or high jacking draft picks from other teams, like phil was suppose to put a gun to these FA's head and threaten to wipe their families out if they don't sign with us.

Melo also said that he and MDA got along swimmingly and that he had no idea that there was an issue.

everybody spins.

That's because MDA is extremely passive aggressive, a horrible communicator and would never let his true feelings show bluntly due to fear of confrontation.

MDA gets a bad rap. Dude didn't have all these negative opinions until he came to NY. His players loved him in PHX. He had issues with Amar'e because Amar'e was horrid on D. We came to find that out ourselves. Melo was clearly not giving his all when he was asked to take more responsibility. The ball was in his hands a lot and he actually was getting more assists under MDA but he was also resistant to the changes. If Melo had fully bought in there's no telling how good the team could've been. The biggest issue MDA had was the lack of a real PG. If they had given him a legit PG he would've won a lot of games in NY.

Melo has a chance to finish out his career in NY on a very positive note. This roster is young but there are some talented players and some hard workers on the roster. All Melo has to do is lead them on the court and Locker room in a positive manner. Take joy in his role as the top dog and help his young teammates to succeed. It's all on him to make the most of this.

It is who he is. There isn't a coach out there that can't win with a Steve Nash. Meanwhile guys like Phil were able to mold personalities into winners.

If Phil were coaching, I would say for sure he would have gotten the best out of Carmelo. He would use the media to hold Carmelo accountable; something I am for certain Fisher can't do.

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
Phil is setting up Carmelo.......

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