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yellowboy90
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7/17/2015  4:24 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Turner is light years ahead of everyone. Towns, Turner, Okafor, and Porzingis are all 19 and Turner looks years ahead of them right now. If I had a crystal ball that only went to 7/17/15, I would have traded down for him. (And, relax, I still do like Porzingis as a prospect.)

He was a talent that could have gone in any direction. Its also possible that his game was more suited for today's NBA then college.

With all that said TJ Warren averaged like 30pts a game last yr in summer league. We would t really know anything about these players until min the end of the yr

Jeremy Tyler is right up there. We should have drafted him!

He's still available....Nothing is stopping Phil from pulling the trigger.....It's not like Tyler has a long line of GM's knocking on his door. There must be a reason why Phil hasn't entertained this option. I thought he was a good player as well, but I'm just a fan, with no rings.

phil is staying away from him because he stinks!

the point is that we can't judge players based on SL.


Clearly, a strong summer league performance projects better than a weak one, though. It's not like there's a negative or inverse correlation between the two.
You're right that it's far from a perfect correlation though and we are only projecting.

I believe Pelton did a breakdown of how a good summer league translate over to success for rookies but for sophomores it means little


Good info. I looked it up and you seem to be right that it matters most for rookies. Defensive rebounding translates particularly well (which is concerning for KP) but so does shot-blocking (which gives some reassurance).

Am I going crazy or did you edit your post?[ :D]


lol. I did once I re-read your post and realized that you said summer league is meaningful for rookies but not older players. Sorry about that.

Okay, because your post didn't say edited and I was like I know I read something different. Well at least I thought I did. lol.

It would be great if FT translated.

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Bonn1997
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7/17/2015  4:29 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Turner is light years ahead of everyone. Towns, Turner, Okafor, and Porzingis are all 19 and Turner looks years ahead of them right now. If I had a crystal ball that only went to 7/17/15, I would have traded down for him. (And, relax, I still do like Porzingis as a prospect.)

He was a talent that could have gone in any direction. Its also possible that his game was more suited for today's NBA then college.

With all that said TJ Warren averaged like 30pts a game last yr in summer league. We would t really know anything about these players until min the end of the yr

Jeremy Tyler is right up there. We should have drafted him!

He's still available....Nothing is stopping Phil from pulling the trigger.....It's not like Tyler has a long line of GM's knocking on his door. There must be a reason why Phil hasn't entertained this option. I thought he was a good player as well, but I'm just a fan, with no rings.

phil is staying away from him because he stinks!

the point is that we can't judge players based on SL.


Clearly, a strong summer league performance projects better than a weak one, though. It's not like there's a negative or inverse correlation between the two.
You're right that it's far from a perfect correlation though and we are only projecting.

I believe Pelton did a breakdown of how a good summer league translate over to success for rookies but for sophomores it means little


Good info. I looked it up and you seem to be right that it matters most for rookies. Defensive rebounding translates particularly well (which is concerning for KP) but so does shot-blocking (which gives some reassurance).

Am I going crazy or did you edit your post?[ :D]


lol. I did once I re-read your post and realized that you said summer league is meaningful for rookies but not older players. Sorry about that.

Okay, because your post didn't say edited and I was like I know I read something different. Well at least I thought I did. lol.

It would be great if FT translated.


Ah, yeah, I should have put edited.
I don't have Insider and only read summaries of Pelton's work. Is it saying that for rookies SL stats translate long-term in the NBA or only translate to their rookie season? Or did he not look at the long-term?
yellowboy90
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7/17/2015  5:01 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Turner is light years ahead of everyone. Towns, Turner, Okafor, and Porzingis are all 19 and Turner looks years ahead of them right now. If I had a crystal ball that only went to 7/17/15, I would have traded down for him. (And, relax, I still do like Porzingis as a prospect.)

He was a talent that could have gone in any direction. Its also possible that his game was more suited for today's NBA then college.

With all that said TJ Warren averaged like 30pts a game last yr in summer league. We would t really know anything about these players until min the end of the yr

Jeremy Tyler is right up there. We should have drafted him!

He's still available....Nothing is stopping Phil from pulling the trigger.....It's not like Tyler has a long line of GM's knocking on his door. There must be a reason why Phil hasn't entertained this option. I thought he was a good player as well, but I'm just a fan, with no rings.

phil is staying away from him because he stinks!

the point is that we can't judge players based on SL.


Clearly, a strong summer league performance projects better than a weak one, though. It's not like there's a negative or inverse correlation between the two.
You're right that it's far from a perfect correlation though and we are only projecting.

I believe Pelton did a breakdown of how a good summer league translate over to success for rookies but for sophomores it means little


Good info. I looked it up and you seem to be right that it matters most for rookies. Defensive rebounding translates particularly well (which is concerning for KP) but so does shot-blocking (which gives some reassurance).

Am I going crazy or did you edit your post?[ :D]


lol. I did once I re-read your post and realized that you said summer league is meaningful for rookies but not older players. Sorry about that.

Okay, because your post didn't say edited and I was like I know I read something different. Well at least I thought I did. lol.

It would be great if FT translated.


Ah, yeah, I should have put edited.
I don't have Insider and only read summaries of Pelton's work. Is it saying that for rookies SL stats translate long-term in the NBA or only translate to their rookie season? Or did he not look at the long-term?

I don't have Insider either and only read it second hand a while ago. So it's a little foggy in my mind. Sorry.

yellowboy90
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7/17/2015  5:48 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:
blkexec wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Turner is light years ahead of everyone. Towns, Turner, Okafor, and Porzingis are all 19 and Turner looks years ahead of them right now. If I had a crystal ball that only went to 7/17/15, I would have traded down for him. (And, relax, I still do like Porzingis as a prospect.)

He was a talent that could have gone in any direction. Its also possible that his game was more suited for today's NBA then college.

With all that said TJ Warren averaged like 30pts a game last yr in summer league. We would t really know anything about these players until min the end of the yr

Jeremy Tyler is right up there. We should have drafted him!

He's still available....Nothing is stopping Phil from pulling the trigger.....It's not like Tyler has a long line of GM's knocking on his door. There must be a reason why Phil hasn't entertained this option. I thought he was a good player as well, but I'm just a fan, with no rings.

phil is staying away from him because he stinks!

the point is that we can't judge players based on SL.


Clearly, a strong summer league performance projects better than a weak one, though. It's not like there's a negative or inverse correlation between the two.
You're right that it's far from a perfect correlation though and we are only projecting.

I believe Pelton did a breakdown of how a good summer league translate over to success for rookies but for sophomores it means little


Good info. I looked it up and you seem to be right that it matters most for rookies. Defensive rebounding translates particularly well (which is concerning for KP) but so does shot-blocking (which gives some reassurance).

Well, it's a good sign to see Grant rebounding well for a guard and N'dour blocking shots. I really like N'dour's potential.

If only Galloway was a rookie he might lead the league for guards in rebounds. LOL. He rebounded well last year though. If Grant rebounding translate and Gallo's take a jump it could really offset Kristaps problems as a rookie.

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7/17/2015  7:33 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/17/2015  7:34 PM
I think Kevon Looney deserves consideration. I'm not sure how bad his hip is, but the dude looks like a steal.
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