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Knicks1969
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7/13/2015  9:48 PM
I like that dude. He is a more skilled Acey
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7/13/2015  9:51 PM
martin wrote:
TheGame wrote:He is a poor man's Renaldo balkman. I doubt he makes the team but if he can improve his shooting, he might be ready for the league in another year.

Wow really? Looks like he has some semblance of a jump shot and played defense fairly smartly, two thing Balkman never did

This kid can pass, excellent anticipation on defense and he can alley oop with the best of them. He set up Zinger twice inside the paint with bounce passes.

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7/13/2015  10:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2015  10:21 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:
martin wrote:
TheGame wrote:He is a poor man's Renaldo balkman. I doubt he makes the team but if he can improve his shooting, he might be ready for the league in another year.

Wow really? Looks like he has some semblance of a jump shot and played defense fairly smartly, two thing Balkman never did

This kid can pass, excellent anticipation on defense and he can alley oop with the best of them. He set up Zinger twice inside the paint with bounce passes.

I did not say he could not play. In comparing him to Balkman, you have to realize I liked Balkman's game and wish he had put in the work to take his game to the next level. Nbour has the same defensive energy but he is not quite as disruptive on defense as Balkman. Ndour has no offensive moves. He does look like he can hit a shot out to 16-17 ft, but he is still about a year away before he is ready to be on an NBA roster.

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7/13/2015  10:53 PM
martin wrote:
TheGame wrote:He is a poor man's Renaldo balkman. I doubt he makes the team but if he can improve his shooting, he might be ready for the league in another year.

Wow really? Looks like he has some semblance of a jump shot and played defense fairly smartly, two thing Balkman never did

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7/13/2015  11:14 PM
TheGame wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
martin wrote:
TheGame wrote:He is a poor man's Renaldo balkman. I doubt he makes the team but if he can improve his shooting, he might be ready for the league in another year.

Wow really? Looks like he has some semblance of a jump shot and played defense fairly smartly, two thing Balkman never did

This kid can pass, excellent anticipation on defense and he can alley oop with the best of them. He set up Zinger twice inside the paint with bounce passes.

I did not say he could not play. In comparing him to Balkman, you have to realize I liked Balkman's game and wish he had put in the work to take his game to the next level. Nbour has the same defensive energy but he is not quite as disruptive on defense as Balkman. Ndour has no offensive moves. He does look like he can hit a shot out to 16-17 ft, but he is still about a year away before he is ready to be on an NBA roster.

I thought Ndour was disruptive, have to see if he can do it at the next level. For me he showed some smart help D, especially in PnR. Balkman was flat out stupid player, also hoped he would have shown more, I liked him too

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7/13/2015  11:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/13/2015  11:45 PM
This kid Ndour made a case tonight..He is raw but his intangibles are off the charts..Right now he is a interior version of Amini..8 reb, 3 stl, 3 blk..
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7/14/2015  12:25 AM
He's like some kind of X-man or superhero with that reach of his, and he has quick hands, as well.

Not sure how he made it out of the second round, to be honest.

He is exactly what you wanted Thanasis to be, and he already has a jump shot that can be worked with and refined, if need be.

I assume he gets invited to training camp... would really like to see what he looks like against vets, and if he plays with the same lack of abandon.

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7/14/2015  4:55 AM
Why are people comparing him to Thanasis, they play two different positions?
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7/14/2015  6:56 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:Why are people comparing him to Thanasis, they play two different positions?

Because they both have similar natural defensive athleticism. ....but Ndour plays taller...is taller and a little longer.....but the surprise is that he has a jumpshot. So hes not a liability on offense but he brings rodman type intangles.....and energy.

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7/14/2015  7:10 AM
blkexec wrote:
earthmansurfer wrote:
meloshouldgo wrote:
Finestrg wrote:I don't know what some of you saw but this man played well yesterday. Converted on an impressive alley oop, passed off on a nice give and go to another player, converted a basket or two in close, hit a couple of jumpers and had at least 3, maybe 4 blocks. He was active throughout on both ends and didn't force a thing. Kept flashing looking for the ball, calling for the ball on post ups--I don't think he got the ball enough. Either his teammates passed him up on some of those situations or had trouble getting him the ball (deflected passes, etc.). The couple of times he did get the ball where he was covered tightly and nothing was there, he didn't panic and moved it quickly. I even like the closeout on the SA missed 3-pt attempt to end the game--had his hand up and didn't commit a foul. Dude showed me he deserves more PT.

Agree on all counts. He looked better than Thanasis

Yeah, my take was that he is a better Thanasis, and that is saying much, at least regarding his athleticism. Thanasis can't shoot and Ndour shot something like 40% from 3??? Did you see him knock down those midrange shots clean? I was shocked actually as I though he was another athlete with no shot. That isn't the case.

Let's see how summer league plays out but if Thanasis keeps this up there is no reason to sign him. We have his rights, we can trade him if he demands but who is going to want him that bad as he looks like a long wait. This Ndour cat is much more ready to contribute.

I see guys on reddit mentioning that he is going overseas but will stay in contact with the team. So, it might be a nice "pick-up" in a way.

Hes a perfect player to stash.....loads of nba potential on both ends. We are lacking that type of athleticism.

He is a great stash player, but tbh, he could probably gain a bit from being on the team here. Even if he only gets garbage minutes. The speed of the NBA (in practice) will make him better and he will be ready when his number is called. I can't believe he wasn't drafted but the draft was extremely deep. He is still a project though, but with that athleticism (and shot), you don't let him go. Worse case, he gets seasoned overseas and we sign him next year. He has an agreement with him for that should he not make the team.

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7/14/2015  9:36 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/14/2015  9:37 AM
Well i'm the one that started this thread to question what people saw in this kid in the first game cause I didn't see anything more than a high energy player that didn't look like he had much but I was much more impressed with what he showed last night. Now i'm not gonna go crazy and start saying this kid is gonna be a good NBA player or that he's gonna make the Knicks out of what he does in summer league like some have done already but I did see a kid that with some more work on his game could maybe make a NBA team. He still made some dumb fouls but it's summer league and a lot of these kids do that.
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7/14/2015  10:03 AM
holfresh wrote:This kid Ndour made a case tonight..He is raw but his intangibles are off the charts..Right now he is a interior version of Amini..8 reb, 3 stl, 3 blk..

Those the steals were pure anticipation and quickness. He made them look effortless. And he rebounds with a certain zest! If it wasn't for him Zinger would have had couple more boards, that he just jumped up and got to them first.

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7/14/2015  10:54 AM
I think the other thing mentioned by others: always talking on the defensive end. Seems like good teammate too, picking guys up, lots of high fives
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7/14/2015  12:26 PM
blkexec wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Why are people comparing him to Thanasis, they play two different positions?

Because they both have similar natural defensive athleticism. ....but Ndour plays taller...is taller and a little longer.....but the surprise is that he has a jumpshot. So hes not a liability on offense but he brings rodman type intangles.....and energy.


Participated in the Portsmouth tournament, but was not great statistically. That is where Gaines saw Galloway last year.

Its not impossible to imagine that he saw some Rodman-like qualities or potential in the games he saw him play in.

43% from the college 3pt line, and 78+% from the FT line, with both increasing nicely from his first year at Ohio, so he seems to have a good mechanical foundation as a shooter. Just turned 23.

Starts as a high energy "niche" defense first reserve and who knows what he becomes as he matures as a player.

Pleasantly surprised so far...hope he continues to surprise.

Some background info...

Born June 18th 1992 in Sindia, Senegal...Son of Anne Marie Dione and Robert Diegane Ndour...Has a brother, Bruno, step brother, Marcelin, and step sister, Madeleine...Is fluent in five languages, including English, French, Japanese, Wolof and Serer...Moved from Mbour, Senegal, to Japan in high school to pursue his basketball career...Awarded top prize at 2010 Okayama Prefectural Japanese Speech Contest in October 2010...Holds an associate's degree from Monroe College in information technology...Teammates at Monroe included future Division I players Orlando Sanchez (St. John's), Marco Bourgault (St. John's), Stephane Manga (Seton Hall), A.J. West (Nevada) and Drimir Ferguson (North Carolina Central)....Expected major at Ohio is information technology. Favorite athlete is Kevin Garnett...Favorite professional team is the Boston Celtics.

Will be able to curse out opposition players and refs with relative impunity, I would think.

The Senegal to Japan move is strange- of course he was probably the tallest guy in any game he played in over there.

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7/14/2015  2:38 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:Well i'm the one that started this thread to question what people saw in this kid in the first game cause I didn't see anything more than a high energy player that didn't look like he had much but I was much more impressed with what he showed last night. Now i'm not gonna go crazy and start saying this kid is gonna be a good NBA player or that he's gonna make the Knicks out of what he does in summer league like some have done already but I did see a kid that with some more work on his game could maybe make a NBA team. He still made some dumb fouls but it's summer league and a lot of these kids do that.

I thought the same after first game but he is growing on me and I hope he gets invite. Boggled up Randle and seemed all over the court. I also thought Laberyie showed some good attributes last night after dismissing him in first game. Frenchman wont get an invite but he intrigues and I like that we have his rights for another time
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7/14/2015  7:27 PM
martin wrote:
TheGame wrote:He is a poor man's Renaldo balkman. I doubt he makes the team but if he can improve his shooting, he might be ready for the league in another year.

Wow really? Looks like he has some semblance of a jump shot and played defense fairly smartly, two thing Balkman never did

Good thing we selected him instead of Rondo

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7/14/2015  7:44 PM
I have to admit ndour has looked good this game. His shot is more consistent than I first thought. He might be worth a roster spot and then sent to d league.
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7/14/2015  8:00 PM
Knicks1969 wrote:I like that dude. He is a more skilled Acey

acey 2.5

He doesn't make camp, phills an ass

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7/14/2015  8:01 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Knicks1969 wrote:I like that dude. He is a more skilled Acey

acey 2.5

He doesn't make camp, phills an ass


He's going to make the camp.

I think he is another Gaines guy from the Portsmouth tournament.

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7/14/2015  8:05 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
blkexec wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Why are people comparing him to Thanasis, they play two different positions?

Because they both have similar natural defensive athleticism. ....but Ndour plays taller...is taller and a little longer.....but the surprise is that he has a jumpshot. So hes not a liability on offense but he brings rodman type intangles.....and energy.


Participated in the Portsmouth tournament, but was not great statistically. That is where Gaines saw Galloway last year.

Its not impossible to imagine that he saw some Rodman-like qualities or potential in the games he saw him play in.

43% from the college 3pt line, and 78+% from the FT line, with both increasing nicely from his first year at Ohio, so he seems to have a good mechanical foundation as a shooter. Just turned 23.

Starts as a high energy "niche" defense first reserve and who knows what he becomes as he matures as a player.

Pleasantly surprised so far...hope he continues to surprise.

Some background info...

Born June 18th 1992 in Sindia, Senegal...Son of Anne Marie Dione and Robert Diegane Ndour...Has a brother, Bruno, step brother, Marcelin, and step sister, Madeleine...Is fluent in five languages, including English, French, Japanese, Wolof and Serer...Moved from Mbour, Senegal, to Japan in high school to pursue his basketball career...Awarded top prize at 2010 Okayama Prefectural Japanese Speech Contest in October 2010...Holds an associate's degree from Monroe College in information technology...Teammates at Monroe included future Division I players Orlando Sanchez (St. John's), Marco Bourgault (St. John's), Stephane Manga (Seton Hall), A.J. West (Nevada) and Drimir Ferguson (North Carolina Central)....Expected major at Ohio is information technology. Favorite athlete is Kevin Garnett...Favorite professional team is the Boston Celtics.

Will be able to curse out opposition players and refs with relative impunity, I would think.

The Senegal to Japan move is strange- of course he was probably the tallest guy in any game he played in over there.

Dudes an IT geek? Like I needed another reason to root for him. Starting the N'Dour fan club here and now.

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