newyorker4ever wrote:HOLY CRAP. Anyone that is predicting how good/bad any of these players will be off of watching what they can do in the summer league and let alone just one summer league game are absolutely ridiculous. I mean i've heard it all now. This is the summer league and these kids are playing against rookies, lifetime D-league kids, euro kids and undrafted kids and people really think they can predict how they'll be in the fuqing NBA. There were people on this board predicting how good or bad these kids will be in the 1st dang quarter yesterday. Hahahaha

BRIGGS wrote:Grant is not an athletic freak or even close. Also he's had trouble his whole career as a game shooter from deep. He's got good size length and smarts-- and when you use all 3 together you should be a reasonable ball player . For Grant to be really good he would need to show

A. Consistency with a jumper
B. an ability to beat nba guards off the dribble
C. Ability to finish against nba length
D ability to keep quick guards in front of him

This is info we won't have until we get to the nba games. Someone made a point about how deron William would've set up kp many more times-- that's an attribute that makes a great nba pg

Jerian can help this team more IMO and i'm glad we drafted him. He was someone I thought would be good as a 2nd 1st rd pick if Phil could get one here even before the draft. I also thought Payne could be a good get, but Jerian has the size we need at the position. He doesn't have to be spectacular in all the ways that people usually expect i.e. being a Freak Athlete. He's got enough speed, length and athletic ability to get the job done.

holfresh wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Grant is not an athletic freak or even close. Also he's had trouble his whole career as a game shooter from deep. He's got good size length and smarts-- and when you use all 3 together you should be a reasonable ball player . For Grant to be really good he would need to show

A. Consistency with a jumper
B. an ability to beat nba guards off the dribble
C. Ability to finish against nba length
D ability to keep quick guards in front of him

This is info we won't have until we get to the nba games. Someone made a point about how deron William would've set up kp many more times-- that's an attribute that makes a great nba pg

Briggs, where can i find complete stats from the game?? Can you post them if you know where to find them or can someone find them and post them??

NBA.com

fitzfarm wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Grant is not an athletic freak or even close. Also he's had trouble his whole career as a game shooter from deep. He's got good size length and smarts-- and when you use all 3 together you should be a reasonable ball player . For Grant to be really good he would need to show

A. Consistency with a jumper
B. an ability to beat nba guards off the dribble
C. Ability to finish against nba length
D ability to keep quick guards in front of him

This is info we won't have until we get to the nba games. Someone made a point about how deron William would've set up kp many more times-- that's an attribute that makes a great nba pg

Anyone that can throw down a reverse windmill dunk at 6'4 is a athletic freak in my mind .

I do agree with your evaluation on what he needs to work on.. but there is no denying his passing ability, leadership skills, and his uncanny ability to get to the hoop and the free throw line .. As for deron Williams and his pick and roll ability .. I feel grant can thrive as a pick and roll general he's great at passing off the dribble and setting up his teammates

That's not a windmill dunk and a reverse windmill dunk isn't possible...

fitzfarm wrote:

holfresh wrote:

fitzfarm wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Grant is not an athletic freak or even close. Also he's had trouble his whole career as a game shooter from deep. He's got good size length and smarts-- and when you use all 3 together you should be a reasonable ball player . For Grant to be really good he would need to show

A. Consistency with a jumper
B. an ability to beat nba guards off the dribble
C. Ability to finish against nba length
D ability to keep quick guards in front of him

This is info we won't have until we get to the nba games. Someone made a point about how deron William would've set up kp many more times-- that's an attribute that makes a great nba pg

Anyone that can throw down a reverse windmill dunk at 6'4 is a athletic freak in my mind .

I do agree with your evaluation on what he needs to work on.. but there is no denying his passing ability, leadership skills, and his uncanny ability to get to the hoop and the free throw line .. As for deron Williams and his pick and roll ability .. I feel grant can thrive as a pick and roll general he's great at passing off the dribble and setting up his teammates

That's not a windmill dunk and a reverse windmill dunk isn't possible...

What would you call that a dubble pump reverse... What ever you wanna call it, it's athletically impressive

PhilinLA wrote:He was learning a whole new system and new teammates yesterday, and still made some impressive, give him some time. He was a heroic player at ND, and he'll be one for the Knicks.

Oh yeah this goes with any player. a player like our skinny Frenchman I don't think he's nba and I doubt he shows anything to the contrary. grants an nba player but we will wait and see. That in game jumps hot is a big ? And we wil get a sense if he can finish at the rim pretty quick I have his upside pegged at Derek Harper which would be tremendous but I'm not sure he is nearly as quick as Derek someone mentioned he's got some old school to his game and I agree let's hope we get the high end

TheGame wrote:Grant had a so so game. But I think he was nervous. He is aggressive and gets to the line. He just needs to relax and let the game come to him.

Agreed also really excited for his match up vs Russell, wouldn't be surprised if grant owns him all game people are underestimating grants defense