meloanyk wrote:

smackeddog wrote:But I thought he was a championship piece who Phil was insane to get nothing back for?

LOL,lot of double talking here. Good move by Jax to cleanse ourselves of those two regardless of any return. I would not take Smith back if he paid us.

I would take his untalented brother before JR.

Vmart wrote:

meloanyk wrote:

smackeddog wrote:But I thought he was a championship piece who Phil was insane to get nothing back for?

LOL,lot of double talking here. Good move by Jax to cleanse ourselves of those two regardless of any return. I would not take Smith back if he paid us.

I would take his untalented brother before JR.

i think your reaching here, Jr is bad, but he ain't that bad. His brother got cut from the d league squad

knicks1248 wrote:

Panos wrote:Way dumber even than Latrell Sprewell

You leave spreewell (one of my favorite knicks of all time) out of this. I will agree the 3 yr 24 mill he turn down was dumb, but he had some teams requesting his service, he just wanted to be on a contender, and the only team interested were middle of the road teams

And he had kids to feed.

If Lebron shows that he breaks down next season, does Cleveland still sign Lebron to a 5year deal of over 30m a season?
With the Cavs payroll above 100m, Lebron will need to sign another 1year deal with another 1 deal to opt out of in order to get 3year of service for FULL BIRD RIGHTS

2years from now will Cleveland still pay Lebron a 5year deal at over 30m a year?
Lebron is making sure all his soldiers are getting taken care off

They could use Haywoods contract to try to acquire Eric Bledsoe with future draft picks though it would be heavy taxes
Lebron could be putting himself in great danger as Cleveland doesn't have to resgin him when he opts out 2years from now
If they trade Kevin Love in a couple of months or next years draft night, along with not adding other high salaries, they may be able to offer Lebron a MAX contract or close to it, but not so sure if its 2years from now...
They may bring back JR Smith to a 1year deal this year, and then resign Lebron, if they do not take salaries for Kevin Love, and still have a FULL MLE to use NEXT YEAR

meloshouldgo wrote:

GetThePipe wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I can't believe this guy opted out. There isn't a playoff contender with 6.4 million in cap space left, let alone a championship contender.

He may have to beg Labron for a couple of dollars, and i think Labron is brilliant for letting Cleveland do what they had to do to bring certain players, then saving him for last.

Mean while idiot JR opts out thinking there was a waiting list for his service, after his normal erratic shooting in the finals. Shumpert has gotta be chuckling in a corner somewhere..Money done son..lol

he's wont commit to stay there until TT gets a max I think.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/617403143257784320

Talk about holding an entire franchise hostage. This dude is worse than Melo.

How is he holding them hostage, he's willing to take what ever money is left as long as you put solid talent around him.

Melo didn't really give a fck who you put around him or else he would have opted in and phil would of had a boat load of options this off season.

I like Melo, But the last thing I ever want to hear out of his mouth is , "WTF YOU DOING PHIL" because im sure phil was thinking the same thing last off season about him. And lets not forget about the DENVER HIJACK to get him here

You gotta wonder what type of people these guys have in their circle, agents, managers, accountants, consultants, a bunch of bad advice MFkrs

knicks1248 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GetThePipe wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I can't believe this guy opted out. There isn't a playoff contender with 6.4 million in cap space left, let alone a championship contender.

He may have to beg Labron for a couple of dollars, and i think Labron is brilliant for letting Cleveland do what they had to do to bring certain players, then saving him for last.

Mean while idiot JR opts out thinking there was a waiting list for his service, after his normal erratic shooting in the finals. Shumpert has gotta be chuckling in a corner somewhere..Money done son..lol

he's wont commit to stay there until TT gets a max I think.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/617403143257784320

Talk about holding an entire franchise hostage. This dude is worse than Melo.

How is he holding them hostage, he's willing to take what ever money is left as long as you put solid talent around him.

Melo didn't really give a fck who you put around him or else he would have opted in and phil would of had a boat load of options this off season.

I like Melo, But the last thing I ever want to hear out of his mouth is , "WTF YOU DOING PHIL" because im sure phil was thinking the same thing last off season about him. And lets not forget about the DENVER HIJACK to get him here

You gotta wonder what type of people these guys have in their circle, agents, managers, accountants, consultants, a bunch of bad advice MFkrs

Yeah, tell us more about the DENVER HIJACK. You going to lead a circle jerk over Moz for us? Oh wait, he didn't get to play in Denver. How's Denver been making out with that HIJACK? Conference Championship yet? No? Did they make the second round yet? No? Gallo on the All-NBA team yet? No? Is Wilson a first ballot HOF candidate yet?

Net Net: Denver was going to the playoffs with Melo, the Knicks were going nowhere before Melo. Tell me the difference after they hijacked us.

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GetThePipe wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I can't believe this guy opted out. There isn't a playoff contender with 6.4 million in cap space left, let alone a championship contender.

He may have to beg Labron for a couple of dollars, and i think Labron is brilliant for letting Cleveland do what they had to do to bring certain players, then saving him for last.

Mean while idiot JR opts out thinking there was a waiting list for his service, after his normal erratic shooting in the finals. Shumpert has gotta be chuckling in a corner somewhere..Money done son..lol

he's wont commit to stay there until TT gets a max I think.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/617403143257784320

Talk about holding an entire franchise hostage. This dude is worse than Melo.

How is he holding them hostage, he's willing to take what ever money is left as long as you put solid talent around him.

Melo didn't really give a fck who you put around him or else he would have opted in and phil would of had a boat load of options this off season.

I like Melo, But the last thing I ever want to hear out of his mouth is , "WTF YOU DOING PHIL" because im sure phil was thinking the same thing last off season about him. And lets not forget about the DENVER HIJACK to get him here

You gotta wonder what type of people these guys have in their circle, agents, managers, accountants, consultants, a bunch of bad advice MFkrs

Yeah, tell us more about the DENVER HIJACK. You going to lead a circle jerk over Moz for us? Oh wait, he didn't get to play in Denver. How's Denver been making out with that HIJACK? Conference Championship yet? No? Did they make the second round yet? No? Gallo on the All-NBA team yet? No? Is Wilson a first ballot HOF candidate yet?

Net Net: Denver was going to the playoffs with Melo, the Knicks were going nowhere before Melo. Tell me the difference after they hijacked us.

trying to inject logic into an anti-Melo rant = fail.

Best course of action is treat it like a toddler. Let him stop his feet and pound his fists and eventually he will run out of energy. Maybe

LOl..Melo anti rant..Maybe you skip the line where i said I like Melo (as a player and a person). If you disagree that on both contracts that melo and the knicks wouldn't have been better off if he waited a yr (during the denver trade) and (when he opted out)at a better chance of surrounding him with better talented, then the both of you are not as smart as i thought you were.

If your telling me LBJ is a jerk for waitng for cleveland to stock pile there roster with legit role players to help him have a better chance at being a contender, your both are being super naive.

Mosgov, tristian, wilson chandler, Gallo, shumpert, are solid role players who will help any superstar player. You can't deny that.

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GetThePipe wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I can't believe this guy opted out. There isn't a playoff contender with 6.4 million in cap space left, let alone a championship contender.

He may have to beg Labron for a couple of dollars, and i think Labron is brilliant for letting Cleveland do what they had to do to bring certain players, then saving him for last.

Mean while idiot JR opts out thinking there was a waiting list for his service, after his normal erratic shooting in the finals. Shumpert has gotta be chuckling in a corner somewhere..Money done son..lol

he's wont commit to stay there until TT gets a max I think.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/617403143257784320

Talk about holding an entire franchise hostage. This dude is worse than Melo.

How is he holding them hostage, he's willing to take what ever money is left as long as you put solid talent around him.

Melo didn't really give a fck who you put around him or else he would have opted in and phil would of had a boat load of options this off season.

I like Melo, But the last thing I ever want to hear out of his mouth is , "WTF YOU DOING PHIL" because im sure phil was thinking the same thing last off season about him. And lets not forget about the DENVER HIJACK to get him here

You gotta wonder what type of people these guys have in their circle, agents, managers, accountants, consultants, a bunch of bad advice MFkrs

Yeah, tell us more about the DENVER HIJACK. You going to lead a circle jerk over Moz for us? Oh wait, he didn't get to play in Denver. How's Denver been making out with that HIJACK? Conference Championship yet? No? Did they make the second round yet? No? Gallo on the All-NBA team yet? No? Is Wilson a first ballot HOF candidate yet?

Net Net: Denver was going to the playoffs with Melo, the Knicks were going nowhere before Melo. Tell me the difference after they hijacked us.

trying to inject logic into an anti-Melo rant = fail.

Best course of action is treat it like a toddler. Let him stop his feet and pound his fists and eventually he will run out of energy. Maybe

LOl..Melo anti rant..Maybe you skip the line where i said I like Melo (as a player and a person). If you disagree that on both contracts that melo and the knicks wouldn't have been better off if he waited a yr (during the denver trade) and (when he opted out)at a better chance of surrounding him with better talented, then the both of you are not as smart as i thought you were.

If your telling me LBJ is a jerk for waitng for cleveland to stock pile there roster with legit role players to help him have a better chance at being a contender, your both are being super naive.

Mosgov, tristian, wilson chandler, Gallo, shumpert, are solid role players who will help any superstar player. You can't deny that.

of course they are. And if you think asking a pro athlete to wait a year before signing a guarenteed contract your not as smart as I thought either. Easy for the guy who sits behind the keyboard to say. Its not Melo's job to build the Knicks. Things change and injuries happen. Do I need to list the vast amount of players in pro sports who have sustained career ending or changing injuries? You dont wait a year. Thats not how the industry works. People take Melo's desire to "get paid" as some selfish act. I find it funny. Nobody forced the Knicks to make that trade. It was their choice, NOT Melo's which players were included. Im a little more real-world

in las vegas carmelo anthony met with james dolan, who owns the knicks. without dolan interfering carmelo anthony doesn't get traded to the knicks. carmelo later admitted that he "kind of forced [his] way here" and that he stayed on because of "unfinished business." throw in the lin situation, the resignation of d'antoni and what you have is a player with way way way too much influence on a franchise... at least until jackson decided to draft a player for life beyond carmelo anthony.

there really are no two ways about it.

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

GetThePipe wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:I can't believe this guy opted out. There isn't a playoff contender with 6.4 million in cap space left, let alone a championship contender.

He may have to beg Labron for a couple of dollars, and i think Labron is brilliant for letting Cleveland do what they had to do to bring certain players, then saving him for last.

Mean while idiot JR opts out thinking there was a waiting list for his service, after his normal erratic shooting in the finals. Shumpert has gotta be chuckling in a corner somewhere..Money done son..lol

he's wont commit to stay there until TT gets a max I think.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/617403143257784320

Talk about holding an entire franchise hostage. This dude is worse than Melo.

How is he holding them hostage, he's willing to take what ever money is left as long as you put solid talent around him.

Melo didn't really give a fck who you put around him or else he would have opted in and phil would of had a boat load of options this off season.

I like Melo, But the last thing I ever want to hear out of his mouth is , "WTF YOU DOING PHIL" because im sure phil was thinking the same thing last off season about him. And lets not forget about the DENVER HIJACK to get him here

You gotta wonder what type of people these guys have in their circle, agents, managers, accountants, consultants, a bunch of bad advice MFkrs

Yeah, tell us more about the DENVER HIJACK. You going to lead a circle jerk over Moz for us? Oh wait, he didn't get to play in Denver. How's Denver been making out with that HIJACK? Conference Championship yet? No? Did they make the second round yet? No? Gallo on the All-NBA team yet? No? Is Wilson a first ballot HOF candidate yet?

Net Net: Denver was going to the playoffs with Melo, the Knicks were going nowhere before Melo. Tell me the difference after they hijacked us.

trying to inject logic into an anti-Melo rant = fail.

Best course of action is treat it like a toddler. Let him stop his feet and pound his fists and eventually he will run out of energy. Maybe

LOl..Melo anti rant..Maybe you skip the line where i said I like Melo (as a player and a person). If you disagree that on both contracts that melo and the knicks wouldn't have been better off if he waited a yr (during the denver trade) and (when he opted out)at a better chance of surrounding him with better talented, then the both of you are not as smart as i thought you were.

If your telling me LBJ is a jerk for waitng for cleveland to stock pile there roster with legit role players to help him have a better chance at being a contender, your both are being super naive.

Mosgov, tristian, wilson chandler, Gallo, shumpert, are solid role players who will help any superstar player. You can't deny that.

of course they are. And if you think asking a pro athlete to wait a year before signing a guarenteed contract your not as smart as I thought either. Easy for the guy who sits behind the keyboard to say. Its not Melo's job to build the Knicks. Things change and injuries happen. Do I need to list the vast amount of players in pro sports who have sustained career ending or changing injuries? You dont wait a year. Thats not how the industry works. People take Melo's desire to "get paid" as some selfish act. I find it funny. Nobody forced the Knicks to make that trade. It was their choice, NOT Melo's which players were included. Im a little more real-world

It is a risk, but very rare, you can count on one hand the amount of players (in their prime) that had career ending injuries in the last 20 yrs.